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I consider these 2 wins

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  • Captain Cheesedick C
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    C Captain Cheesedick wrote on last edited by
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    Now your refusal to acknowledge the Browns moved makes sense.

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      Gip I think you should petition the NFL to override the scoreboard and make us 2-1. 😁

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      @texasag1969 said:

      Gip I think you should petition the NFL to override the scoreboard and make us 2-1. 😁

      At least overturn that bad ref's call vs. the flying skunks and replay those last few seconds. 😳

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      • C Captain Cheesedick

        Now your refusal to acknowledge the Browns moved makes sense.

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        The Soldier said:

        Now your refusal to acknowledge the Browns moved makes sense.

        The fact that you are a Steeler fan makes sense. Totally vacuous, totally feckless, totally mendacious.

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          Wins? No... but there were positive takeaways.

          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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          • The GipperT The Gipper

            I am counting both of these last two games as wins for the Browns.

            A. We didn't get beaten by the Ravens, we got beaten by the refs and their bullshit call. The Browns got jobbed, deserved to win.....so I am giving it to them.

            B. We didn't get beat by the Dolphins, we got beat because..in the words of Peyton Manning "our liquored up kicker" couldn't see straight.

            OK, sure, two moral victories don't mean squat in the real world....but these are games the Browns coulda, woulda, shoulda won.

            Now, before the season I made a statement that the Browns will struggle mightily early on, and that toward the end of the season with all the kids on this team getting experience and gaining familiarity with Hue Jackson's system that they would become a tough out before the end of the year.

            Well "Early On" meant ONE game. The Browns are already a tough out. There may be some games where they may not be in....but I think a far more vast majority of games they will be competitive in....like these last two.

            They will not roll over and play dead against the Redskins or any other team on their schedule.

            And figure this.....here are the names of players that hopefully they will have back before too very long:

            RGIII

            Josh McCown

            Josh Gordon

            Corey Coleman

            Cam Erving (for backup only)

            Armonty Bryant

            Carl Nassib

            Patrick Murray

            Joe Haden.

            This team will fight and win some games. Not every bad thing....bad ref's call, bad kick, bad bullshit can go wrong for them. I expect them to chew the legs off the fucking Redskins this week. KIrk Cousins ain't all that. Washington better be ready for a Dawg Fight.

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            @the-gipper said:

            I am counting both of these last two games as wins for the Browns.

            A. We didn't get beaten by the Ravens, we got beaten by the refs and their bullshit call. The Browns got jobbed, deserved to win.....so I am giving it to them.

            B. We didn't get beat by the Dolphins, we got beat because..in the words of Peyton Manning "our liquored up kicker" couldn't see straight.

            OK, sure, two moral victories don't mean squat in the real world....but these are games the Browns coulda, woulda, shoulda won.

            Now, before the season I made a statement that the Browns will struggle mightily early on, and that toward the end of the season with all the kids on this team getting experience and gaining familiarity with Hue Jackson's system that they would become a tough out before the end of the year.

            Well "Early On" meant ONE game. The Browns are already a tough out. There may be some games where they may not be in....but I think a far more vast majority of games they will be competitive in....like these last two.

            They will not roll over and play dead against the Redskins or any other team on their schedule.

            And figure this.....here are the names of players that hopefully they will have back before too very long:

            RGIII

            Josh McCown

            Josh Gordon

            Corey Coleman

            Cam Erving (for backup only)

            Armonty Bryant

            Carl Nassib

            Patrick Murray

            Joe Haden.

            This team will fight and win some games. Not every bad thing....bad ref's call, bad kick, bad bullshit can go wrong for them. I expect them to chew the legs off the fucking Redskins this week. KIrk Cousins ain't all that. Washington better be ready for a Dawg Fight.

            we need a signature win to get this bullshit losing culture off our backs because it is still there. we are winless...i don't buy counting the ravens game a win..it was a bullshit call, but we don't know if they would have scored anyway if the call was not made..as far as the kicker, we picked the wrong kicker and that is our own fault. i think we have a chance against the skins only if we put pressure on cousins. if we don't, they win....

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              Of course, anyone with a scintilla of an intellect would know that I am being facetious. I guess you can say they count as 2 moral victories, which, no, is not good enough.

              But people expected every game the Browns played to be a double digit plus blowout. And that has not been the case....nor do I believe it will be the case overall. A couple more, yea, probably. But there is fight in this dawg....a wounded dawg even.

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                Wins? No... but there were positive takeaways.

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                W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                @tour2ma said:

                Wins? No... but there were positive takeaways.

                Can you make a new thread with your overview of what you're seeing so far? And where are the OL grades?

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                  medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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                  Any more it comes down to what Vegas wants us to do and what they will allow the refs to let us have. There were so many countless times when the ratbirds should of been called for holding or other things but they made sure we got a taunting call when there was no taunting. The deck is stacked against us and even stevie wonder can see it. They didn't call the Ratbirds for jumping on our qb after he was already on the ground, I can sit here all night after I watch the games again, It is bullshit that even the refs always seem to look the other way when things happen against us. We need another bottelgate

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Wins? No... but there were positive takeaways.

                    Can you make a new thread with your overview of what you're seeing so far? And where are the OL grades?

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    @wargograw said:

                    Can you make a new thread with your overview of what you're seeing so far? And where are the OL grades?

                    Haven't done OL grades this year.. and likely won't.

                    I think I've posted overviews in each game thread, but was thinking of collecting thoughts after this week's game at the proverbial quarter pole.

                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                    • The GipperT The Gipper

                      Of course, anyone with a scintilla of an intellect would know that I am being facetious. I guess you can say they count as 2 moral victories, which, no, is not good enough.

                      But people expected every game the Browns played to be a double digit plus blowout. And that has not been the case....nor do I believe it will be the case overall. A couple more, yea, probably. But there is fight in this dawg....a wounded dawg even.

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Of course, anyone with a scintilla of an intellect would know that I am being facetious. I guess you can say they count as 2 moral victories, which, no, is not good enough.

                      But people expected every game the Browns played to be a double digit plus blowout. And that has not been the case....nor do I believe it will be the case overall. A couple more, yea, probably. But there is fight in this dawg....a wounded dawg even.

                      Good thread, Gipper.

                      The Browns have played really hard ... and not so bad ... the past two weeks, so folks like me who have just been wanting to enjoy the growth are overall pleased with that aspect.

                      And we are 0-3, so the folks that want to lose for draft picks should be real happy with that.

                      Lots of holes on this team, but I think the staff is doing a good job. Even the waiver wire guys we brought in are playing well.

                      Except that fucking kicker.

                      Zombo

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                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                        I think they've played above my expectations, despite being 0-3

                        Injuries haven't helped either

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