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  • jcam222J jcam222

    From what I am hearing when you all hear what this dumb motherfucker did you will be done defending him lol. Write that shit down.

    @jcam222 said:

    From what I am hearing when you all hear what this dumb motherfucker did you will be done defending him lol. Write that shit down.

    Would you happen to be referring to this?:

    https://m.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/5567kp/according_to_lane_adkins_of_the_orange_and_brown/?utm_source=mweb_redirect&compact=true

    If so, I hope that Gordon was not that fucking stupid...

    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson

  • Well at least give him credit for going into rehab, something JM still has not caught on to as he pisses away his $$$. As to more chances here. Give him the same treatment as JM. Adios and good luck with the rehab. when you go for real.

  • The mistake you guys made was planning Gordon would do anything for the Browns moving forward in the first place. Gordon was the shitty ex-girlfriend a bunch of you candy asses clearly can't get over. The guy had all the talent in the world but has blown it like plenty of guys like him have done in the past. He's done here-the only regret you should have is that the Browns didn't trade him when the value was high.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    The mistake you guys made was planning Gordon would do anything for the Browns moving forward in the first place. Gordon was the shitty ex-girlfriend a bunch of you candy asses clearly can't get over. The guy had all the talent in the world but has blown it like plenty of guys like him have done in the past. He's done here-the only regret you should have is that the Browns didn't trade him when the value was high.

    @jrb12711 said:

    The mistake you guys made was planning Gordon would do anything for the Browns moving forward in the first place. Gordon was the shitty ex-girlfriend a bunch of you candy asses clearly can't get over. The guy had all the talent in the world but has blown it like plenty of guys like him have done in the past. He's done here-the only regret you should have is that the Browns didn't trade him when the value was high.

    I'm not surprised this happened but I doubt very much they could have traded him. That would mean an on the spot drug test that he most likely fails. I've given him up as just false hope long ago.
    jrb12711J 1 Reply

  • The guy is an addict, so yes, he's under a lot of stress. Addiction is like an iceberg, ok? What you see on the surface is only a FRACTION of what really lies beneath. Josh was probably barely keeping it together, and something made him lose it. The stress of expectations when he can play again, the paternity thing, whatever. If Josh never took his addiction seriously, and by some of his statements he DIDN'T, then he wasn't equipped to handle stress and all of the aspects of addiction. It's not as simple as "don't use drugs/alcohol". There is a lot that goes into it, and if he doesn't have the tools to battle this issue, he will fail.

    There is a difference between being sober and "not using." Sobriety means that an addict is actively working on their addiction issues. Seeing a counselor, going to meetings, speaking with a sponsor...whatever. "Not using" is pretending an addict doesn't have a problem, and he just avoids the drug of choice in hopes that if he isn't around it, the problem will go away. It almost NEVER works.

    If I had to guess, Josh failed another test. Instead of going public with the results (which I believe are supposed to be private anyway), he just said that he'd get help. I think we can read between the lines here. If he didn't fail a test, why enter rehab? An addict only faces up to the problem when he has to. When the act of using provides worse consequences than being sober. If he didn't fail a test, he was about to. I promise you that.

    I'm deeply saddened. I know I shouldn't have expected anything, but as time went by, I got more and more excited. Maybe he can figure it out, I hope he does. If his only substance abuse issue is with marijuana, that's even sadder because many cities and even states are thinking about either making it legal or decriminalizing it.

    Best of luck, Flash Gordon.

    KvoetheK 1 Reply

  • i know people say you can be addicted to WEEDA, but i don't buy it one bit. i know people who smoke. don't drink. don't take pills. don't do any other drugs but smoke WEEDA. they're not sitting outside in an alley in the middle of the night waiting for their guy to show up and cop some bud. they don't have it it's not like they're going to rob a bank or jump out a window cuz they can't get a toke.

    mental maybe. but you gotta be dumb as a rock to mentally be addicted to anything. so........

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  • L LondonBrown

    Seriously when will we catch a fucking break.

    @londonbrown said:

    Seriously when will we catch a fucking break.

    When you quit being so dumb. The fact that you even thought he would actually make it back shows how woefully ignorant you are.

  • C CaineDeSoulis

    Good riddance and i Wish the browns would have traded him when i suggested 2 years ago 🙂

    Character>>>>>Talent EVERY TIME no exceptions

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Good riddance and i Wish the browns would have traded him when i suggested 2 years ago 🙂

    Character>>>>>Talent EVERY TIME no exceptions

    There are several of us who never counted on Josh & just for the reason you stated. Strong on talent & weak on character.

    The positive of this happening now is that it appears the Browns will now move ahead as if he were never here & that's a good thing.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    The guy is an addict, so yes, he's under a lot of stress. Addiction is like an iceberg, ok? What you see on the surface is only a FRACTION of what really lies beneath. Josh was probably barely keeping it together, and something made him lose it. The stress of expectations when he can play again, the paternity thing, whatever. If Josh never took his addiction seriously, and by some of his statements he DIDN'T, then he wasn't equipped to handle stress and all of the aspects of addiction. It's not as simple as "don't use drugs/alcohol". There is a lot that goes into it, and if he doesn't have the tools to battle this issue, he will fail.

    There is a difference between being sober and "not using." Sobriety means that an addict is actively working on their addiction issues. Seeing a counselor, going to meetings, speaking with a sponsor...whatever. "Not using" is pretending an addict doesn't have a problem, and he just avoids the drug of choice in hopes that if he isn't around it, the problem will go away. It almost NEVER works.

    If I had to guess, Josh failed another test. Instead of going public with the results (which I believe are supposed to be private anyway), he just said that he'd get help. I think we can read between the lines here. If he didn't fail a test, why enter rehab? An addict only faces up to the problem when he has to. When the act of using provides worse consequences than being sober. If he didn't fail a test, he was about to. I promise you that.

    I'm deeply saddened. I know I shouldn't have expected anything, but as time went by, I got more and more excited. Maybe he can figure it out, I hope he does. If his only substance abuse issue is with marijuana, that's even sadder because many cities and even states are thinking about either making it legal or decriminalizing it.

    Best of luck, Flash Gordon.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    The guy is an addict, so yes, he's under a lot of stress. Addiction is like an iceberg, ok? What you see on the surface is only a FRACTION of what really lies beneath. Josh was probably barely keeping it together, and something made him lose it. The stress of expectations when he can play again, the paternity thing, whatever. If Josh never took his addiction seriously, and by some of his statements he DIDN'T, then he wasn't equipped to handle stress and all of the aspects of addiction. It's not as simple as "don't use drugs/alcohol". There is a lot that goes into it, and if he doesn't have the tools to battle this issue, he will fail.

    There is a difference between being sober and "not using." Sobriety means that an addict is actively working on their addiction issues. Seeing a counselor, going to meetings, speaking with a sponsor...whatever. "Not using" is pretending an addict doesn't have a problem, and he just avoids the drug of choice in hopes that if he isn't around it, the problem will go away. It almost NEVER works.

    If I had to guess, Josh failed another test. Instead of going public with the results (which I believe are supposed to be private anyway), he just said that he'd get help. I think we can read between the lines here. If he didn't fail a test, why enter rehab? An addict only faces up to the problem when he has to. When the act of using provides worse consequences than being sober. If he didn't fail a test, he was about to. I promise you that.

    I'm deeply saddened. I know I shouldn't have expected anything, but as time went by, I got more and more excited. Maybe he can figure it out, I hope he does. If his only substance abuse issue is with marijuana, that's even sadder because many cities and even states are thinking about either making it legal or decriminalizing it.

    Best of luck, Flash Gordon.

    Ah...another enabler

  • I think one thing we all can agree on about Gordon is what a waste of talent thus far.

  • Browns149B Browns149

    No return next week.. That sucks

    @browns149 said:

    No return next week.. That sucks

    according to his statement, it looks like he is not coming back period...at least at this time....

  • cdl15C cdl15

    Doesn't sound like this is a relapse situation. Sounds like he's doing the correct thing here, which by his track record is a HUGE step in the right direction. And it sounds like the browns and the NFL have his back on it.

    Barring bad news, failed drug test, I would definitely want this guy back on my team.

    Any negativity towards his decision is high unwarranted.

    @cdl15 said:

    Doesn't sound like this is a relapse situation. Sounds like he's doing the correct thing here, which by his track record is a HUGE step in the right direction. And it sounds like the browns and the NFL have his back on it.

    Barring bad news, failed drug test, I would definitely want this guy back on my team.

    Any negativity towards his decision is high unwarranted.

    like the toxic johnny feetsball, me thinks ole josh is done with football...what a shame..you don't want this guy on your team.... he's gone and even if he was not, he won't be playing this yr..that'll be 2 yrs out of football...don't want you josh...good luck with your life, its way more important than football...

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    i know people say you can be addicted to WEEDA, but i don't buy it one bit. i know people who smoke. don't drink. don't take pills. don't do any other drugs but smoke WEEDA. they're not sitting outside in an alley in the middle of the night waiting for their guy to show up and cop some bud. they don't have it it's not like they're going to rob a bank or jump out a window cuz they can't get a toke.

    mental maybe. but you gotta be dumb as a rock to mentally be addicted to anything. so........

    @miktoxic said:

    i know people say you can be addicted to WEEDA, but i don't buy it one bit.

    It doesn't matter what they say.. I'll take Dr.Drew on that over the words of stoners.. what matters is whether or not they quit. They say they can.. but never do. And remember: Just because they TELL YOU they quit.. doesn't mean they aren't lying.. yes, to you.. and continuing to toke. As with every addictive substance, marijuana isn't addictive for everyone.. but the person for whom it's not the greatest thing ever wouldn't have a reason to keep smoking it.

    Dr. Drew describing marijuana withdrawal - and whether or not a person "loves" it.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown

  • 1. Don't release him. There is ZERO reason to ever release him. If you release him, all that will happen is another team will pick him up and wait. Its low risk high reward. We wouldn't get any pick for him that would be worth it. We haven't been offered a pick for him that was worth it for years. Sit and wait. He still has two more seasons under his rookie contract.

    2. I am at least 90% sure he failed another test and he is just getting ahead of it. Might as well start the process of getting back now. Maybe the NFL will go easy on him and let him reinstate at the start of training camp next year if he spends the next 3-4 months in rehab (why they would ever do this I wouldn't know). 10% chance is that the pressure of using was hitting him hard with the thought of having to come back and play and he decided it would be better for him to go to rehab so he could play some time this season/next season.

    Ruining threads since 1897.
    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • And for the people saying the pot isn't addictive, food is also not addictive, but people can't stop over eating and eating shitty food. Things like food and pot create dopamine which makes you feel good and that in turn is addictive.

    Ruining threads since 1897.

  • Josh Gordon is probably gonna go to the patriots or something and have a HOF career.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    Josh Gordon is probably gonna go to the patriots or something and have a HOF career.

    @bbedward said:

    Josh Gordon is probably gonna go to the patriots or something and have a HOF career.

    heh heh heh....ole bellycheck will have him out of rehab and signed by next week when we play them...heh heh heh...

  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    1. Don't release him. There is ZERO reason to ever release him. If you release him, all that will happen is another team will pick him up and wait. Its low risk high reward. We wouldn't get any pick for him that would be worth it. We haven't been offered a pick for him that was worth it for years. Sit and wait. He still has two more seasons under his rookie contract.

    2. I am at least 90% sure he failed another test and he is just getting ahead of it. Might as well start the process of getting back now. Maybe the NFL will go easy on him and let him reinstate at the start of training camp next year if he spends the next 3-4 months in rehab (why they would ever do this I wouldn't know). 10% chance is that the pressure of using was hitting him hard with the thought of having to come back and play and he decided it would be better for him to go to rehab so he could play some time this season/next season.

    @harry-buffalo said:

    1. Don't release him. There is ZERO reason to ever release him. If you release him, all that will happen is another team will pick him up and wait. Its low risk high reward. We wouldn't get any pick for him that would be worth it. We haven't been offered a pick for him that was worth it for years. Sit and wait. He still has two more seasons under his rookie contract.

    Yup- I'm thinking the same thing. Not playing extends his rookie contract indefinitely. We don't have to pay him either. The rights to that other loser Justin Blackmon are still owned by the Jaguars IIRC.

    @bbedward said:

    Josh Gordon is probably gonna go to the patriots or something and have a HOF career.

    It would be the Browns luck BB.

  • Has there ever been a bigger waste of talent? I mean, seriously I can't think of anyone in over 30 years. I have no issue with someone entering rehab of course as that takes courage in many cases (well... in some cases that is) but the fact he waited until the last minute speaks of something else happening behind closed doors. For example I could definitely see something taking place like the Browns testing (on their own) outside the league mandate, recognizing he was still using, and scurrying him away to rehab before the NFL caught on. In truth that makes a lot of sense to me given the timing.

    Still though the question remains - has there ever been a bigger waste of talent after being given so many chances? I can't think of any.

  • brownsfan11B brownsfan11

    Has there ever been a bigger waste of talent? I mean, seriously I can't think of anyone in over 30 years. I have no issue with someone entering rehab of course as that takes courage in many cases (well... in some cases that is) but the fact he waited until the last minute speaks of something else happening behind closed doors. For example I could definitely see something taking place like the Browns testing (on their own) outside the league mandate, recognizing he was still using, and scurrying him away to rehab before the NFL caught on. In truth that makes a lot of sense to me given the timing.

    Still though the question remains - has there ever been a bigger waste of talent after being given so many chances? I can't think of any.

    @brownsfan11 said:

    Has there ever been a bigger waste of talent? I mean, seriously I can't think of anyone in over 30 years. I have no issue with someone entering rehab of course as that takes courage in many cases (well... in some cases that is) but the fact he waited until the last minute speaks of something else happening behind closed doors. For example I could definitely see something taking place like the Browns testing (on their own) outside the league mandate, recognizing he was still using, and scurrying him away to rehab before the NFL caught on. In truth that makes a lot of sense to me given the timing.

    Still though the question remains - has there ever been a bigger waste of talent after being given so many chances? I can't think of any.

    Well none of us really knows how many chances JM was given. The fact he was suspended 4 games regardless of who might pick him up tells me is was more than once. The Browns just wrote him off early in the process unlike JG. Favoritism maybe?

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