Josh Gordon entering rehab
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when we release him he better not go to the patriots, cowboys, or some other stupid team and light it up. i'll track him down and beat him up.
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I still wouldn't release him. If in fact this is just a ploy to get out of a contract and possibly play somewhere he likes better then go to hell. Sit on the roster unpaid and rot.
WSS
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when we release him he better not go to the patriots, cowboys, or some other stupid team and light it up. i'll track him down and beat him up.
when we release him he better not go to the patriots, cowboys, or some other stupid team and light it up. i'll track him down and beat him up.
I see what you did there!
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The only way I see the Browns outright releasing him is if there is another looming suspension ... Death penalty type.
Otherwise you can just put a guy on a voluntary inactive list and just end his season, no?
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-- I agree, don't let go of his rights, but don't leave him on the active roster either
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The only way I see the Browns outright releasing him is if there is another looming suspension ... Death penalty type.
Otherwise you can just put a guy on a voluntary inactive list and just end his season, no?
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-- I agree, don't let go of his rights, but don't leave him on the active roster either
I read on the bottom line on ESPN Gordon is no longer a Brown. I'd give you a link but I'm tired of wasting any more time on him.Zombo said:
The only way I see the Browns outright releasing him is if there is another looming suspension ... Death penalty type.
Otherwise you can just put a guy on a voluntary inactive list and just end his season, no?
Z
-- I agree, don't let go of his rights, but don't leave him on the active roster either
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I still wouldn't release him. If in fact this is just a ploy to get out of a contract and possibly play somewhere he likes better then go to hell. Sit on the roster unpaid and rot.
WSS
I still wouldn't release him. If in fact this is just a ploy to get out of a contract and possibly play somewhere he likes better then go to hell. Sit on the roster unpaid and rot.
WSS
Yup
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I read on the bottom line on ESPN Gordon is no longer a Brown. I'd give you a link but I'm tired of wasting any more time on him.Zombo said:
The only way I see the Browns outright releasing him is if there is another looming suspension ... Death penalty type.
Otherwise you can just put a guy on a voluntary inactive list and just end his season, no?
Z
-- I agree, don't let go of his rights, but don't leave him on the active roster either
I read on the bottom line on ESPN Gordon is no longer a Brown. I'd give you a link but I'm tired of wasting any more time on him.
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I still wouldn't release him. If in fact this is just a ploy to get out of a contract and possibly play somewhere he likes better then go to hell. Sit on the roster unpaid and rot.
WSS
I still wouldn't release him. If in fact this is just a ploy to get out of a contract and possibly play somewhere he likes better then go to hell. Sit on the roster unpaid and rot.
WSS
Agreed.
I read on the bottom line on ESPN Gordon is no longer a Brown. I'd give you a link but I'm tired of wasting any more time on him.
If so, that would be another fuck up from the Browns management, I think. They really have nothing to lose by keeping him, money-wise; if Gordon wants to sit out and not play, then let him go broke riding pine on the Browns bench. Don't reward him by giving him his release from his contract.
More importantly, I think this would set a bad precedent for other players on the Browns who are wanting to jump ship before their contracts expire, like Haden, who's groin injury will keep him out of games until he's released, then "magically" heal overnight once he's with another team. Hue and the Browns FO need to show some of these players that bullshit like that won't fly in Cleveland no mo'.
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Gordon tbh is probably gonna work out somewhere else.
Sometimes those high talent high risk picks are worth it, it seemed worth it for us however many years ago
Gordon tbh is probably gonna work out somewhere else.
Sometimes those high talent high risk picks are worth it, it seemed worth it for us however many years ago
They said that in college too right? Guess what...
Normally I would agree with a theory that says NE could tap his goodies. Unfortunately the 1 thing people overlook in this case is Bill Belichick has to find somewhere in a player's history there was a LOVE of the game whether it was a Randy Moss (at Marshall or in Minnesota), Antowain Smith, Corey Dillon or LeGarrett Blount. Dating back as far as high school with Gordon, he scared off major DI colleges in spite of his elite talent. What played out in college? Justification behind the reasoning of all those major DI schools. He got kicked off the Baylor team following a second chance to return from suspension. As 2015 reminded us - that's a pretty difficult program to get kicked off of.
When we drafted Gordon in the supplemental draft, the reason that type of talent drifted down to us in round 2 was there were a lot of NFL teams thinking baggage over elite talent. That thinking has been justified too...
Football always came so easy to Gordon he just never really seemed to appreciate it the way people informed him he should. He ended up hearing it so much, I think he just started to tell people what he felt they wanted to hear to shut them. IMO, the biggest difference between him and the Honey Badger (who was addicted to heroin) was one guy had the love of the game to put a rally hat on for while the other has never felt compelled to do that.
Some will say, it was only pot. Okay, then how tough is that to give up for a multi-million $ winning lottery ticket? He could have taken care of all his illegitimate kids, Cromartie's and Shawn Kemp's for life while enjoying countless millions for $ himself.
For those saying keep him here - why? When has he ever shown you the ability to go a full year without failing a drug test? He's 1 dirty test away from career curtains and it may have already happened for all we know. What about that promises professionalism moving forward? Zero. The inner chest has intercepted his talent for the final time folks.
Josh never seemed like a bad guy so I don't want to bash him as a person. That said, this is a snake bitten franchise that can't afford an ongoing distraction with him any longer. It's time to cut the cord on this guy. I hope he straightens out his demons and wish him well.
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Gordon tbh is probably gonna work out somewhere else.
Sometimes those high talent high risk picks are worth it, it seemed worth it for us however many years ago
They said that in college too right? Guess what...
Normally I would agree with a theory that says NE could tap his goodies. Unfortunately the 1 thing people overlook in this case is Bill Belichick has to find somewhere in a player's history there was a LOVE of the game whether it was a Randy Moss (at Marshall or in Minnesota), Antowain Smith, Corey Dillon or LeGarrett Blount. Dating back as far as high school with Gordon, he scared off major DI colleges in spite of his elite talent. What played out in college? Justification behind the reasoning of all those major DI schools. He got kicked off the Baylor team following a second chance to return from suspension. As 2015 reminded us - that's a pretty difficult program to get kicked off of.
When we drafted Gordon in the supplemental draft, the reason that type of talent drifted down to us in round 2 was there were a lot of NFL teams thinking baggage over elite talent. That thinking has been justified too...
Football always came so easy to Gordon he just never really seemed to appreciate it the way people informed him he should. He ended up hearing it so much, I think he just started to tell people what he felt they wanted to hear to shut them. IMO, the biggest difference between him and the Honey Badger (who was addicted to heroin) was one guy had the love of the game to put a rally hat on for while the other has never felt compelled to do that.
Some will say, it was only pot. Okay, then how tough is that to give up for a multi-million $ winning lottery ticket? He could have taken care of all his illegitimate kids, Cromartie's and Shawn Kemp's for life while enjoying countless millions for $ himself.
For those saying keep him here - why? When has he ever shown you the ability to go a full year without failing a drug test? He's 1 dirty test away from career curtains and it may have already happened for all we know. What about that promises professionalism moving forward? Zero. The inner chest has intercepted his talent for the final time folks.
Josh never seemed like a bad guy so I don't want to bash him as a person. That said, this is a snake bitten franchise that can't afford an ongoing distraction with him any longer. It's time to cut the cord on this guy. I hope he straightens out his demons and wish him well.
Some very good points here but I may inflect...if you're going to kick a loser you gain a winner. Many young receivers are over looked and I think Coleman is twice the man Josh is.They said that in college too right? Guess what...
Normally I would agree with a theory that says NE could tap his goodies. Unfortunately the 1 thing people overlook in this case is Bill Belichick has to find somewhere in a player's history there was a LOVE of the game whether it was a Randy Moss (at Marshall or in Minnesota), Antowain Smith, Corey Dillon or LeGarrett Blount. Dating back as far as high school with Gordon, he scared off major DI colleges in spite of his elite talent. What played out in college? Justification behind the reasoning of all those major DI schools. He got kicked off the Baylor team following a second chance to return from suspension. As 2015 reminded us - that's a pretty difficult program to get kicked off of.
When we drafted Gordon in the supplemental draft, the reason that type of talent drifted down to us in round 2 was there were a lot of NFL teams thinking baggage over elite talent. That thinking has been justified too...
Football always came so easy to Gordon he just never really seemed to appreciate it the way people informed him he should. He ended up hearing it so much, I think he just started to tell people what he felt they wanted to hear to shut them. IMO, the biggest difference between him and the Honey Badger (who was addicted to heroin) was one guy had the love of the game to put a rally hat on for while the other has never felt compelled to do that.
Some will say, it was only pot. Okay, then how tough is that to give up for a multi-million $ winning lottery ticket? He could have taken care of all his illegitimate kids, Cromartie's and Shawn Kemp's for life while enjoying countless millions for $ himself.
For those saying keep him here - why? When has he ever shown you the ability to go a full year without failing a drug test? He's 1 dirty test away from career curtains and it may have already happened for all we know. What about that promises professionalism moving forward? Zero. The inner chest has intercepted his talent for the final time folks.
Josh never seemed like a bad guy so I don't want to bash him as a person. That said, this is a snake bitten franchise that can't afford an ongoing distraction with him any longer. It's time to cut the cord on this guy. I hope he straightens out his demons and wish him well.
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Look, Josh Gordon has gotten a raw deal since he's been here from the league. Not from Cleveland, but yes- definitely from the league. He's submitted to countless drug tests. They raised the tolerance levels and still retro-punished him for an entire year, banned from the league. He's been a victim of character defamation from the get go. The latest reports are he's smuggling nearly a pound of pot in the airport. It's bullshit and all a ploy to snatch him from Cleveland on the eve of his reinstatement.
As a matter of fact he should have been allowed to start the season with the team except for another bullshit 4 game suspension that even Gordon himself said he doesn't know what for...
Nothing from anywhere is saying he's fucked up again. He's having difficulties dealing with the pressure. That same pressure that caused him to use in the past. Everyone said he should be smart and not use... well he took the advice and seeked help so not to cost him his career and now you are all bashing him... assholes.
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TSA denies Gordon had any negative altercation with authorities. Just more DISINFORMATION to defame our star player. People like to kick people down and keep them down when they are. Keep your head up Josh! Come back to us stronger and more focused and get this team to the next level.
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I still wouldn't release him. If in fact this is just a ploy to get out of a contract and possibly play somewhere he likes better then go to hell. Sit on the roster unpaid and rot.
WSS
I still wouldn't release him. If in fact this is just a ploy to get out of a contract and possibly play somewhere he likes better then go to hell. Sit on the roster unpaid and rot.
WSS
True. As I understand the TEAM could actually suspend him and put him on a PUP list or something like that.
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More like the MUP list - Mentally Unable to Perform.
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Look, Josh Gordon has gotten a raw deal since he's been here from the league. Not from Cleveland, but yes- definitely from the league. He's submitted to countless drug tests. They raised the tolerance levels and still retro-punished him for an entire year, banned from the league. He's been a victim of character defamation from the get go. The latest reports are he's smuggling nearly a pound of pot in the airport. It's bullshit and all a ploy to snatch him from Cleveland on the eve of his reinstatement.
As a matter of fact he should have been allowed to start the season with the team except for another bullshit 4 game suspension that even Gordon himself said he doesn't know what for...
Nothing from anywhere is saying he's fucked up again. He's having difficulties dealing with the pressure. That same pressure that caused him to use in the past. Everyone said he should be smart and not use... well he took the advice and seeked help so not to cost him his career and now you are all bashing him... assholes.
Look, Josh Gordon has gotten a raw deal since he's been here from the league. Not from Cleveland, but yes- definitely from the league. He's submitted to countless drug tests. They raised the tolerance levels and still retro-punished him for an entire year, banned from the league. He's been a victim of character defamation from the get go. The latest reports are he's smuggling nearly a pound of pot in the airport. It's bullshit and all a ploy to snatch him from Cleveland on the eve of his reinstatement.
As a matter of fact he should have been allowed to start the season with the team except for another bullshit 4 game suspension that even Gordon himself said he doesn't know what for...
Nothing from anywhere is saying he's fucked up again. He's having difficulties dealing with the pressure. That same pressure that caused him to use in the past. Everyone said he should be smart and not use... well he took the advice and seeked help so not to cost him his career and now you are all bashing him... assholes.
The best ability is availability. Whatever the reason(s) Gordon hasn't been available for a long time, and won't be for the foreseeable future. It will come out soon enough why he checked into rehab. I think it was said- Josh had all last year to get his act together, so less than a week where he's able to return- gee, I think I need rehab. MHO is despite doing everything that was humanly possible since his reinstatement- Gordon has failed the Browns and himself yet again. He doesn't get unlimited mulligans, it certainly looks like the Browns have finally thrown in the towel, and written Flash off as a lost cause.
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