Brian Hoyer released by Texans
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On the ESPN Bill Polian Free Agent Tracker website, the following Quarterbacks are listed:
Ryan Fitzpatrick with a B grade
Tavaris Jackson with a C-
All of the following with D grades:
Jimmy Clausen
Matt Flynn
Josh Freeman
Bruce Gradkowski
Chad Henne
Josh Johnson
Matt McCloin
Michael Vick
Charlie Whitehurst
TJ Yates.
Griffin was give a C+ grade
Hoyer does not appear on this list yet. Not sure how he will grade. I suggest no better than a C.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/freeagency/?year=2016&position=8&type=-1
On the ESPN Bill Polian Free Agent Tracker website, the following Quarterbacks are listed:
Ryan Fitzpatrick with a B grade
Tavaris Jackson with a C-
All of the following with D grades:
Jimmy Clausen
Matt Flynn
Josh Freeman
Bruce Gradkowski
Chad Henne
Josh Johnson
Matt McCloin
Michael Vick
Charlie Whitehurst
TJ Yates.
Griffin was give a C+ grade
Hoyer does not appear on this list yet. Not sure how he will grade. I suggest no better than a C.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/freeagency/?year=2016&position=8&type=-1
LOL, Manziel is such a risk- he's not even listed. Got dumped by Rosenhaus. I grade him an F-.
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How would he be restricted?
It happens. His current team could have the right to match any teams offer for him. Like the Browns did for Alex Mack two years ago. He signed an offer sheet from the Jags, Browns matched and kept him.
But...after some checking, I find that he is Unrestricted.
But also note: Case Keenum, who just signed yesterday back with the Rams was an RFA. Rams could have matched any offer made to him.....though I doubt any other teams gave him an offer. (possibly shied away because of knowledge that they could be matched)
It happens. His current team could have the right to match any teams offer for him. Like the Browns did for Alex Mack two years ago. He signed an offer sheet from the Jags, Browns matched and kept him.
But...after some checking, I find that he is Unrestricted.
But also note: Case Keenum, who just signed yesterday back with the Rams was an RFA. Rams could have matched any offer made to him.....though I doubt any other teams gave him an offer. (possibly shied away because of knowledge that they could be matched)
Mack was transition tagged, hence we kept the rights, but that didn't happen to Fitz. Players who have played less than three years in the league can be RFA'd, and I think we both know that isn't Fitz.
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Why is everyone so set on Tyrod leaving the Bills? He was good to very good last year. Not happening.
Why is everyone so set on Tyrod leaving the Bills? He was good to very good last year. Not happening.
Who is everyone? I was under under the impression Rexy loves Tyrod.
LOL, Manziel is such a risk- he's not even listed. Got dumped by Rosenhaus. I grade him an F-.
First player Rosenhaus has dropped in over 20 years of being an agent...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Why is everyone so set on Tyrod leaving the Bills? He was good to very good last year. Not happening.
Who is everyone? I was under under the impression Rexy loves Tyrod.
LOL, Manziel is such a risk- he's not even listed. Got dumped by Rosenhaus. I grade him an F-.
First player Rosenhaus has dropped in over 20 years of being an agent...
Who is everyone? I was under under the impression Rexy loves Tyrod.
First player Rosenhaus has dropped in over 20 years of being an agent...
Doesn't he still represent Josh Gordon? I mean, if he's keeping JG and dropping Manziel, who isn't even suspended, how bad is Manziel...
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Everyone on this board, Tour.
Ah....
Meanwhile BH is in Denver today... should be able to throw 10% further at altitude...
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CFL maybe?
Looks like he is the starting Quarterback for the Chicago Bears.
He's not great, but he's ... OK. And that'll get you work.
How are Johnny's classes going?
Zombo
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How are Johnny's classes going?
Zombo
I hear me made an "A" on his 6 week mixology exam.
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How are Johnny's classes going?
Zombo
I hear me made an "A" on his 6 week mixology exam.
How are Johnny's classes going?
Zombo
I heard me made an "A" on his 6 week mixology exam.
Not only that, did really well in the Basic Freebaseing class, as well as the chem lab turning Sudafed into methamphetamine for fun and profit.
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How are Johnny's classes going?
Zombo
I heard me made an "A" on his 6 week mixology exam.
Not only that, did really well in the Basic Freebaseing class, as well as the chem lab turning Sudafed into methamphetamine for fun and profit.
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CFL maybe?
Looks like he is the starting Quarterback for the Chicago Bears.
He's not great, but he's ... OK. And that'll get you work.
How are Johnny's classes going?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Looks like he is the starting Quarterback for the Chicago Bears.
He's not great, but he's ... OK. And that'll get you work.
How are Johnny's classes going?
Zombo
Derek Anderson might start for an injured QB this week too, doesn't mean he also isn't horrible.
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I was wrong about a kid's desire to play football (at least he COULD play), but you want to keep sinking with proven terrible, shit players. Good luck old fart
The Texans quarterback single-handedly sunk the ship in Saturday's 30-0 wild card loss to the Chiefswith a collage of unforgivable gaffes that deep-sixed one drive after the next for Bill O'Brien's lackluster offense.
Off target and lacking confidence from the very first snap, Hoyer killed the Texans with three unforgivable picks and a lost fumble over the first two quarters of play.
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Zombo said:
Looks like he is the starting Quarterback for the Chicago Bears.
He's not great, but he's ... OK. And that'll get you work.
How are Johnny's classes going?
Zombo
Derek Anderson might start for an injured QB this week too, doesn't mean he also isn't horrible.
Derek Anderson might start for an injured QB this week too, doesn't mean he also isn't horrible.
Guess we don't agree on what "terrible" is.
A top backup who stays in the league for ten years and can give you a chance to win ballgames if your starter goes down ... I call those guys "decent".
Hoyer and Anderson are decent quarterbacks, not Top 32, but not far off of the fringe, and that is why they stay employed.
But you don't want "decent" as your franchise guy, that's why we sat them to look at Quinn and Manziel the first rounders ... that went well.
We'll hit one, one of these times.
Zombo
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Hoyer is better than Anderson, but neither are anywhere close to Top 32. Quinn isn't either.
Hoyer is better than Anderson, but neither are anywhere close to Top 32. Quinn isn't either.
So you don't think either are in top half of backups? That would put them in the top 48.
I think the feeling around the league is that they both are amongst the top half of backups.
Ya ... Quinn hasn't played for years and wasn't good enough to be a backup when he did ... so bold call there.
Zombo
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Derek Anderson might start for an injured QB this week too, doesn't mean he also isn't horrible.
Guess we don't agree on what "terrible" is.
A top backup who stays in the league for ten years and can give you a chance to win ballgames if your starter goes down ... I call those guys "decent".
Hoyer and Anderson are decent quarterbacks, not Top 32, but not far off of the fringe, and that is why they stay employed.
But you don't want "decent" as your franchise guy, that's why we sat them to look at Quinn and Manziel the first rounders ... that went well.
We'll hit one, one of these times.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Guess we don't agree on what "terrible" is.
A top backup who stays in the league for ten years and can give you a chance to win ballgames if your starter goes down ... I call those guys "decent".
Hoyer and Anderson are decent quarterbacks, not Top 32, but not far off of the fringe, and that is why they stay employed.
But you don't want "decent" as your franchise guy, that's why we sat them to look at Quinn and Manziel the first rounders ... that went well.
We'll hit one, one of these times.
Zombo
Colt McCoy too?
What about Weeden?
Lot of ex-Browns serving as backups.
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Hoyer is better than Anderson, but neither are anywhere close to Top 32. Quinn isn't either.
So you don't think either are in top half of backups? That would put them in the top 48.
I think the feeling around the league is that they both are amongst the top half of backups.
Ya ... Quinn hasn't played for years and wasn't good enough to be a backup when he did ... so bold call there.
Zombo
Zombo said:
So you don't think either are in top half of backups? That would put them in the top 48.
I think the feeling around the league is that they both are amongst the top half of backups.
Ya ... Quinn hasn't played for years and wasn't good enough to be a backup when he did ... so bold call there.
Zombo
At this point RGshoulderblade and McCown might fit in the backup mold.
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Zombo said:
Guess we don't agree on what "terrible" is.
A top backup who stays in the league for ten years and can give you a chance to win ballgames if your starter goes down ... I call those guys "decent".
Hoyer and Anderson are decent quarterbacks, not Top 32, but not far off of the fringe, and that is why they stay employed.
But you don't want "decent" as your franchise guy, that's why we sat them to look at Quinn and Manziel the first rounders ... that went well.
We'll hit one, one of these times.
Zombo
Colt McCoy too?
What about Weeden?
Lot of ex-Browns serving as backups.
Colt McCoy too?
What about Weeden?
Lot of ex-Browns serving as backups.
Ya, they are #2's so they are Top 64 QBs too.
I think you know what you are going to get with McCoy, but you don't with Weeden ... I'll put it that way.
Kessler looks more promising than either of them did out of the box right away,
Or Anderson and Hoyer in their very starts for that matter.
Zombo
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Derek Anderson might start for an injured QB this week too, doesn't mean he also isn't horrible.
Guess we don't agree on what "terrible" is.
A top backup who stays in the league for ten years and can give you a chance to win ballgames if your starter goes down ... I call those guys "decent".
Hoyer and Anderson are decent quarterbacks, not Top 32, but not far off of the fringe, and that is why they stay employed.
But you don't want "decent" as your franchise guy, that's why we sat them to look at Quinn and Manziel the first rounders ... that went well.
We'll hit one, one of these times.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Guess we don't agree on what "terrible" is.
A top backup who stays in the league for ten years and can give you a chance to win ballgames if your starter goes down ... I call those guys "decent".
Hoyer and Anderson are decent quarterbacks, not Top 32, but not far off of the fringe, and that is why they stay employed.
But you don't want "decent" as your franchise guy, that's why we sat them to look at Quinn and Manziel the first rounders ... that went well.
We'll hit one, one of these times.
Zombo
Colt McCoy too?
What about Weeden?
Lot of ex-Browns serving as backups.
I think we can safely say- the Browns excel at drafting backup quarterbacks. Now can we please draft a top tier franchise guy for a change?
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