Josh Gordon entering rehab
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Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated.
Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated.
PoG, just stop. It's over. He's done....... You swung and missed on Trent, Johnny and Josh and continuing to post about their 'greatness' makes your Derek Carr prognostication look like dumb luck.
Just take Carr and run with it..........
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Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated.
Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated.
That's not what DawgPound Daily, Bleacher Report and CBS Sports reported. They all reported he failed a test and is suspended indefinitely. He's got time to rehab now. I hope he makes it. But his football career is in suspended animation.
Yup- he doesn't magically get to come back after rehab. It's probably for the rest of the season, depending on the circumstances. Should King Roger deign to conditionally reinstate him next year, the Browns will most likely unload him for a six pack of Busch (pun intended) to the first taker to get him off their hands. Losta luck Josh on staying clean. Such an incredible waste of talent.
As Hue said "we're moving on." Seems the Browns and 95%+ of the fans have had enough of wasted potential that can't get on the field.
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Some of you guys needs a serious reality check on what addiction does to you as a person. I'm not condoning, excusing or anything else for the decisions he's made. The thing is though, you guys are thinking rationally in so many of your comments.
WHY would he give up millions of dollars?!
WHY would he waste so much talent?!
WHY would he wait until so late to get help?!
etc, etc...
The point is, those are rational things to say and things that are indeed frustrating, even impossible to work around. However, it's not as though someone like Gordon doesn't understand this at a basic level. It's that, for true addicts, that irrational process completely controls their decision making. It's something myself and most everyone here can't (literally) wrap their head around. Actions have consequences, and for him the big consequence is that he likely will never play football again. But Jesus, it's not as though addiction is something someone simply chooses to do-it's a real illness.
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Gip - Any player put on the IR doesn't count against the 53 man roster, BUT their salary does go against the team's cap.
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Gip - Any player put on the IR doesn't count against the 53 man roster, BUT their salary does go against the team's cap.
Gip - Any player put on the IR doesn't count against the 53 man roster, BUT their salary does go against the team's cap.
OK, so, the Browns do have an opening they need to fill.....why haven't they done that yet? Looking for the right guy, I guess?
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Football teams roll the dice on players with problems in college.
Counting on them to snap out of it isn't a good bet. A player who loves
the game, doesn't do that crap. A player with character and a strong work ethic
doesn't do that crap.
Tired of teams drafting crap just because they are very, very athletic. Irresponsible
behavior has consequences - he did it to himself long before he got to the NFL and got
rich.
Gone like yesterday. Time to move on. Just another "too bad".
I was afraid of these 4 weeks of separation.
Football teams roll the dice on players with problems in college.
Counting on them to snap out of it isn't a good bet. A player who loves the game, doesn't do that crap. A player with character and a strong work ethic
doesn't do that crap.
What "crap" is that, cal? Be Human?
Some of you guys needs a serious reality check on what addiction does to you as a person. I'm not condoning, excusing or anything else for the decisions he's made. The thing is though, you guys are thinking rationally in so many of your comments.
WHY would he give up millions of dollars?!
WHY would he waste so much talent?!
WHY would he wait until so late to get help?!
etc, etc...
The point is, those are rational things to say and things that are indeed frustrating, even impossible to work around. However, it's not as though someone like Gordon doesn't understand this at a basic level. It's that, for true addicts, that irrational process completely controls their decision making. It's something myself and most everyone here can't (literally) wrap their head around. Actions have consequences, and for him the big consequence is that he likely will never play football again. But Jesus, it's not as though addiction is something someone simply chooses to do-it's a real illness.
Gordon's announcement rang true to my ear. Paternity suit... warrants... etc... Stress sends folks back to all sorts of "crutches"... nicotine for me. No telling what it was for Josh.
Also no telling if he merely reached for or actually succumbed to his crutch in this instance.
His continued suspension status costs us nothing. Pending any new developments, I hope we keep him.
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Gip - Any player put on the IR doesn't count against the 53 man roster, BUT their salary does go against the team's cap.
OK, so, the Browns do have an opening they need to fill.....why haven't they done that yet? Looking for the right guy, I guess?
OK, so, the Browns do have an opening they need to fill.....why haven't they done that yet? Looking for the right guy, I guess?
Yup- digging through the weeds to find someone who may be a decent o-line isn't easy at this point of the season.
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Keep him on the roster, if it doesn't cost us anything, then fuck it, whatever.
But Gordon has unequivocally demonstrated that the Browns cannot
count on him to contribute on the field.
As Hue said, stop wasting time talking about him. Let's move on.
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OK, so, the Browns do have an opening they need to fill.....why haven't they done that yet? Looking for the right guy, I guess?
Yup- digging through the weeds to find someone who may be a decent o-line isn't easy at this point of the season.
Yup- digging through the weed to find someone who may be a decent o-line isn't easy at this point of the season.
Mike Matthews was working out for the Redskins...but I am not aware that they signed him. He is a center. Did they see enough of him to know they didn't want him?
Can he be so bad that even the Browns with their OL woes would pass on him?
I take it that whomever they sign will be very young?
Or are they just waiting for Erving to get healthy?
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Yup- digging through the weed to find someone who may be a decent o-line isn't easy at this point of the season.
Mike Matthews was working out for the Redskins...but I am not aware that they signed him. He is a center. Did they see enough of him to know they didn't want him?
Can he be so bad that even the Browns with their OL woes would pass on him?
I take it that whomever they sign will be very young?
Or are they just waiting for Erving to get healthy?
Mike Matthews was working out for the Redskins...but I am not aware that they signed him. He is a center. Did they see enough of him to know they didn't want him?
Can he be so bad that even the Browns with their OL woes would pass on him?
I take it that whomever they sign will be very young?
Or are they just waiting for Erving to get healthy?
We could resign Matthews to the practice squad Gip. The reason he got cut is he needs to put on bulk and gain upper body strength. Elite nose tackles will destroy him.
It's not looking good for Erving right now. He's shown little improvement over last year. & he was getting pancaked on a regular basis then.
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Mike Matthews was working out for the Redskins...but I am not aware that they signed him. He is a center. Did they see enough of him to know they didn't want him?
Can he be so bad that even the Browns with their OL woes would pass on him?
I take it that whomever they sign will be very young?
Or are they just waiting for Erving to get healthy?
We could resign Matthews to the practice squad Gip. The reason he got cut is he needs to put on bulk and gain upper body strength. Elite nose tackles will destroy him.
It's not looking good for Erving right now. He's shown little improvement over last year. & he was getting pancaked on a regular basis then.
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What "crap" is that, cal? Be Human? Tour
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I'm human. we all are. how many of us forfeit an NFL career for booze and illegal drugs?
You are saying all humans do booze and dope and get addicted? We know a great gal who has little terrific daughters,
and the ex boozed himself into a DUI, out of his marriage, into more trouble, including meth after the divorce, lost his job...
paid no attention to the family later, still in rehab now. The Mom and daughters are humsn too, Tour.
I can understand one crash out of addiction, but continued crashes? that's out of serious bad choices out of selfishness,
imho. Those who didn't get help the first time made a terrible choice.
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What "crap" is that, cal? Be Human? Tour
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I'm human. we all are. how many of us forfeit an NFL career for booze and illegal drugs?
You are saying all humans do booze and dope and get addicted? We know a great gal who has little terrific daughters,
and the ex boozed himself into a DUI, out of his marriage, into more trouble, including meth after the divorce, lost his job...
paid no attention to the family later, still in rehab now. The Mom and daughters are humsn too, Tour.
I can understand one crash out of addiction, but continued crashes? that's out of serious bad choices out of selfishness,
imho. Those who didn't get help the first time made a terrible choice.
What "crap" is that, cal? Be Human? Tour
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I'm human. we all are. how many of us forfeit an NFL career for booze and illegal drugs?
More than one Cal. Justin Blackmon immediately comes to mind- there are plenty of others. The name Don Rodgers ring a bell with you? Quite a few in the NBA too. Len Bias?
You are saying all humans do booze and dope and get addicted? We know a great gal who has little terrific daughters,
and the ex boozed himself into a DUI, out of his marriage, into more trouble, including meth after the divorce, lost his job...
paid no attention to the family later, still in rehab now. The Mom and daughters are human too, Tour.
Yes, there are victims besides the person with the addiction problem. That's why there's Al-Anon. It's a weird thing. not everyone who drinks and does pot gets addicted, but plenty do. You could become a billionaire if you could figure out what turns the switch on to turn someone into an addict. Family history does seem to play a part.
I can understand one crash out of addiction, but continued crashes? that's out of serious bad choices out of selfishness,
imho. Those who didn't get help the first time made a terrible choice.
If you're saying that Cal- it means you really don't understand addiction. Sometimes it takes more than one crash for a person to see the light. Some never do, they wind up dead. I've heard stories about guys who went out and promply got another DUI after spending a month in jail for drunk driving. Heroin addicts keep using even though they know their next shoot up could be their last if their junk is laced with fentanyl. Bet you didn't know the guy who founded AA was a multi time loser- until he finally got it right.
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Fuck him. He's an ex Brown and all he ever did was cause heartache here. Liars, drunks, trouble makers and gimps are about the only things I've seen come out of Texas. I wouldn't hire them to clean the wet spots out of the sheets.
Fuck him. He's an ex Brown and all he ever did was cause heartache here. Liars, drunks, trouble makers and gimps are about the only things I've seen come out of Texas. I wouldn't hire them to clean the wet spots out of the sheets.
we only have the front office to blame for all this shit...between gordon and the little fuckhead manziel, they both have set us back big time...buts lets face it, do you think both these guys problems started after we drafted them...this day and age, i think all draftees should be investigated way before they are drafted to see what issues exist..in this case both these guys probably had issues back in high school or even pre high school...YOU DON'T DRAFT DRUGEES AND DRUNKS PERIOD...
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I still wouldn't release him. If in fact this is just a ploy to get out of a contract and possibly play somewhere he likes better then go to hell. Sit on the roster unpaid and rot.
WSS
True. As I understand the TEAM could actually suspend him and put him on a PUP list or something like that.
True. As I understand the TEAM could actually suspend him and put him on a PUP list or something like that.
This guy is in deep shit...he's another manziel in that he will never see the playing field again...why...because in the words of steven a. smith, THE DUDE IS ALWAYS UNAVAILABLE...You'd got to be a complete moron like the browns to consider to sign this guy....
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Mike Matthews was working out for the Redskins...but I am not aware that they signed him. He is a center. Did they see enough of him to know they didn't want him?
Can he be so bad that even the Browns with their OL woes would pass on him?
I take it that whomever they sign will be very young?
Or are they just waiting for Erving to get healthy?
We could resign Matthews to the practice squad Gip. The reason he got cut is he needs to put on bulk and gain upper body strength. Elite nose tackles will destroy him.
It's not looking good for Erving right now. He's shown little improvement over last year. & he was getting pancaked on a regular basis then.
I noticed an improvement of our running game since Erving went down.We could resign Matthews to the practice squad Gip. The reason he got cut is he needs to put on bulk and gain upper body strength. Elite nose tackles will destroy him.
It's not looking good for Erving right now. He's shown little improvement over last year. & he was getting pancaked on a regular basis then.
Is Erving that bad? Or has his replacements been that good?
Sounds like a question Tour could answer.
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Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated.
PoG, just stop. It's over. He's done....... You swung and missed on Trent, Johnny and Josh and continuing to post about their 'greatness' makes your Derek Carr prognostication look like dumb luck.
Just take Carr and run with it..........
Just take Carr and run with it..........
I sure would be because Carr is fucking awesome
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I sure would be because Carr is fucking awesome
No doubt and PoG called it early.
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If you're saying that Cal- it means you really don't understand addiction. Sometimes it takes more than one crash for a person to see the light. Some never do, they wind up dead. I've heard stories about guys who went out and promply got another DUI after spending a month in jail for drunk driving. Heroin addicts keep using even though they know their next shoot up could be their last if their junk is laced with fentanyl. Bet you didn't know the guy who founded AA was a multi time loser- until he finally got it right. Mr. Hoorta
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I really don't understand it. and I think nobody who wants drugs to be legalized, because it's a "victimless" endeavor...
doesn't understand it, either. I still see it as repeated bad choices after the first bad choice. I imagine that if a person finally does
"see the light"... they could have seen it after the first crash if they wanted to. That's just me.
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I was afraid of these 4 weeks of separation.
Football teams roll the dice on players with problems in college.
Counting on them to snap out of it isn't a good bet. A player who loves the game, doesn't do that crap. A player with character and a strong work ethic
doesn't do that crap.
What "crap" is that, cal? Be Human?
Some of you guys needs a serious reality check on what addiction does to you as a person. I'm not condoning, excusing or anything else for the decisions he's made. The thing is though, you guys are thinking rationally in so many of your comments.
WHY would he give up millions of dollars?!
WHY would he waste so much talent?!
WHY would he wait until so late to get help?!
etc, etc...
The point is, those are rational things to say and things that are indeed frustrating, even impossible to work around. However, it's not as though someone like Gordon doesn't understand this at a basic level. It's that, for true addicts, that irrational process completely controls their decision making. It's something myself and most everyone here can't (literally) wrap their head around. Actions have consequences, and for him the big consequence is that he likely will never play football again. But Jesus, it's not as though addiction is something someone simply chooses to do-it's a real illness.
Gordon's announcement rang true to my ear. Paternity suit... warrants... etc... Stress sends folks back to all sorts of "crutches"... nicotine for me. No telling what it was for Josh.
Also no telling if he merely reached for or actually succumbed to his crutch in this instance.
His continued suspension status costs us nothing. Pending any new developments, I hope we keep him.
I was afraid of these 4 weeks of separation.
He was allowed to be with the team through those 4 weeks. (very unexpected move for Roger GoToHell....I think Haslam talked him into that)
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