What is Your Opinion On Hue & The Browns Rebuild

[Mudfly]

Mike....I dont trust Jimmy.....he was all in on all of em.....

[Canton Mike]

@mudfly said:

Mike....I dont trust Jimmy.....he was all in on all of em.....

John,

I can see your doubts, but Hue was/is 1st choice & not only for the Browns. He was in demand beyond Cleveland, CHOSE the Browns, & has brought an increased intensity & energy to the Browns. I think Jimmy sees that, but only time will tell, so I defer once again to my avatar.

Mike

[Kvoethe]

Lets not forget Jimmy cut his teeth with the Squeelers organization. When he bought the team one of his statements was how he what he called the " steeler way" of running a team, and he would use his experience to forge a "Browns way". I hope he was talking about longevity in the HC and FO.

[miktoxic]

@kvoethe said:

I hope he was talking about longevity in the HC and FO.

Dude i like to break your balls as a joke but REALLY? Were you on planet earth since haslam bought the team? Cuz longevity is a word I really doubt is in jimma's vocabulary.

[jbluhm86]

Are there members on here really talking about cutting ANOTHER FUCKING COACH already, after just 4 regular season games? Amazing. No wonder our team has been in the shitter for nearly a quarter century, with owners and GM's thinking exactly like you, and turning over head coaches every 2-3 years. And now were reduced to wanting to pitch a coach after only 4 fucking games? Pathetic.

The Browns FO and Hue Jackson did a scorched earth campaign in the offseason to free up cap space and collect draft picks to rebuild a team with. How else did you think this season was going to play out? That we'd go from 3-13 to the Superbowl in one offseason? Get real. The Browns are doing it the right way for a change, by having a decent HC in Hue Jackson and rebuilding the team from the draft. That shit doesn't happen overnight.

For example, lets look at some of the most successful coaches of all time, and how their first few seasons with their teams went:

Tom Landry: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1960:

1960: 0-11-1
1961: 4-9-1
1962: 5-8-1
1963: 4-10
1964: 5-8-1
1965: 7-7
1966: 10-3-1, made it to NFL Championship game
1967: 9-5, made it to NFL Championship game
1968: 12-2, made it to conference championship game
1969: 11-2-1, made it to conference championship game
1970: 10-4, lost Superbowl V
1971: 11-3, Superbowl VI Champions

Chuck Noll: Hired by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1969:

1969: 1-13
1970: 5-9
1971: 6-8
1972: 11-3, made it to AFC Championship game
1973: 10-4, lost divisional playoff
1974: 10-3-1, Superbowl IX Champions

Bll Walsh: Hired by the San Francisco 49ers in 1979:

1979: 2-14
1980: 6-10
1981: 13-3, Superbowl XVI Champions

Bill Parcells: Hired by the New York Giants in 1983:

1983: 3-12-1
1984: 9-7, lost divisional playoff
1985: 10-6, lost divisional playoff
1986: 14-2, Superbowl XXI Champions

Jimmy Johnson: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1989:

1989: 1-15
1990: 7-9
1991: 11-5, Wildcard Playoff Victory
1992: 13-3, Superbowl XXVII Champions

If any of these coaches had coached the Browns today, with those records their first few years, some of you motherfuckers on here would be chomping at the bit to have them fired after their first fucking season.

[LondonBrown]

@jbluhm86 said:

Are there members on here really talking about cutting ANOTHER FUCKING COACH already, after just 4 regular season games? Amazing. No wonder our team has been in the shitter for nearly a quarter century, with owners and GM's thinking exactly like you, and turning over head coaches every 2-3 years. And now were reduced to wanting to pitch a coach after only 4 fucking games? Pathetic.

The Browns FO and Hue Jackson did a scorched earth campaign in the offseason to free up cap space and collect draft picks to rebuild a team with. How else did you think this season was going to play out?

Well said ^

[TexasAg1969]

@jbluhm86 said:

Are there members on here really talking about cutting ANOTHER FUCKING COACH already, after just 4 regular season games? Amazing. No wonder our team has been in the shitter for nearly a quarter century, with owners and GM's thinking exactly like you, and turning over head coaches every 2-3 years. And now were reduced to wanting to pitch a coach after only 4 fucking games? Pathetic.

The Browns FO and Hue Jackson did a scorched earth campaign in the offseason to free up cap space and collect draft picks to rebuild a team with. How else did you think this season was going to play out? That we'd go from 3-13 to the Superbowl in one offseason? Get real. The Browns are doing it the right way for a change, by having a decent HC in Hue Jackson and rebuilding the team from the draft. That shit doesn't happen overnight.

For example, lets look at some of the most successful coaches of all time, and how their first few seasons with their teams went:

Tom Landry: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1960:

1960: 0-11-1

1961: 4-9-1

1962: 5-8-1

1963: 4-10

1964: 5-8-1

1965: 7-7

1966: 10-3-1, made it to NFL Championship game

1967: 9-5, made it to NFL Championship game

1968: 12-2, made it to conference championship game

1969: 11-2-1, made it to conference championship game

1970: 10-4, lost Superbowl V

1971: 11-3, Superbowl VI Champions

Chuck Noll: Hired by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1969:

1969: 1-13

1970: 5-9

1971: 6-8

1972: 11-3, made it to AFC Championship game

1973: 10-4, lost divisional playoff

1974: 10-3-1, Superbowl IX Champions

Bll Walsh: Hired by the San Francisco 49ers in 1979:

1979: 2-14

1980: 6-10

1981: 13-3, Superbowl XVI Champions

Bill Parcells: Hired by the New York Giants in 1983:

1983: 3-12-1

1984: 9-7, lost divisional playoff

1985: 10-6, lost divisional playoff

1986: 14-2, Superbowl XXI Champions

Jimmy Johnson: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1989:

1989: 1-15

1990: 7-9

1991: 11-5, Wildcard Playoff Victory

1992: 13-3, Superbowl XXVII Champions

If any of these coaches had coached the Browns today, with those records their first few years, some of you motherfuckers on here would be chomping at the bit to have them fired after their first fucking season.

Well documented case for retention for the long run. My mantra for the Browns is Give It Time. I know that is hard for such a long suffering fan base, but true nonetheless.

[OldBrownsFan]

@jbluhm86 said:

Are there members on here really talking about cutting ANOTHER FUCKING COACH already, after just 4 regular season games? Amazing. No wonder our team has been in the shitter for nearly a quarter century, with owners and GM's thinking exactly like you, and turning over head coaches every 2-3 years. And now were reduced to wanting to pitch a coach after only 4 fucking games? Pathetic.

The Browns FO and Hue Jackson did a scorched earth campaign in the offseason to free up cap space and collect draft picks to rebuild a team with. How else did you think this season was going to play out? That we'd go from 3-13 to the Superbowl in one offseason? Get real. The Browns are doing it the right way for a change, by having a decent HC in Hue Jackson and rebuilding the team from the draft. That shit doesn't happen overnight.

For example, lets look at some of the most successful coaches of all time, and how their first few seasons with their teams went:

Tom Landry: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1960:

1960: 0-11-1

1961: 4-9-1

1962: 5-8-1

1963: 4-10

1964: 5-8-1

1965: 7-7

1966: 10-3-1, made it to NFL Championship game

1967: 9-5, made it to NFL Championship game

1968: 12-2, made it to conference championship game

1969: 11-2-1, made it to conference championship game

1970: 10-4, lost Superbowl V

1971: 11-3, Superbowl VI Champions

Chuck Noll: Hired by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1969:

1969: 1-13

1970: 5-9

1971: 6-8

1972: 11-3, made it to AFC Championship game

1973: 10-4, lost divisional playoff

1974: 10-3-1, Superbowl IX Champions

Bll Walsh: Hired by the San Francisco 49ers in 1979:

1979: 2-14

1980: 6-10

1981: 13-3, Superbowl XVI Champions

Bill Parcells: Hired by the New York Giants in 1983:

1983: 3-12-1

1984: 9-7, lost divisional playoff

1985: 10-6, lost divisional playoff

1986: 14-2, Superbowl XXI Champions

Jimmy Johnson: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1989:

1989: 1-15

1990: 7-9

1991: 11-5, Wildcard Playoff Victory

1992: 13-3, Superbowl XXVII Champions

If any of these coaches had coached the Browns today, with those records their first few years, some of you motherfuckers on here would be chomping at the bit to have them fired after their first fucking season.

One thing I noticed in all the examples was improvement in the second year. That is what I would be looking for.

[Kvoethe]

@miktoxic said:

Dude i like to break your balls as a joke but REALLY? Were you on planet earth since haslam bought the team? Cuz longevity is a word I really doubt is in jimma's vocabulary.

I was thinking that maybe NOW he has found his long term coach and will begin an era of stability.

[The Gipper]

@jbluhm86 said:

Are there members on here really talking about cutting ANOTHER FUCKING COACH already, after just 4 regular season games? Amazing. No wonder our team has been in the shitter for nearly a quarter century, with owners and GM's thinking exactly like you, and turning over head coaches every 2-3 years. And now were reduced to wanting to pitch a coach after only 4 fucking games? Pathetic.

The Browns FO and Hue Jackson did a scorched earth campaign in the offseason to free up cap space and collect draft picks to rebuild a team with. How else did you think this season was going to play out? That we'd go from 3-13 to the Superbowl in one offseason? Get real. The Browns are doing it the right way for a change, by having a decent HC in Hue Jackson and rebuilding the team from the draft. That shit doesn't happen overnight.

For example, lets look at some of the most successful coaches of all time, and how their first few seasons with their teams went:

Tom Landry: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1960:

1960: 0-11-1

1961: 4-9-1

1962: 5-8-1

1963: 4-10

1964: 5-8-1

1965: 7-7

1966: 10-3-1, made it to NFL Championship game

1967: 9-5, made it to NFL Championship game

1968: 12-2, made it to conference championship game

1969: 11-2-1, made it to conference championship game

1970: 10-4, lost Superbowl V

1971: 11-3, Superbowl VI Champions

Chuck Noll: Hired by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1969:

1969: 1-13

1970: 5-9

1971: 6-8

1972: 11-3, made it to AFC Championship game

1973: 10-4, lost divisional playoff

1974: 10-3-1, Superbowl IX Champions

Bll Walsh: Hired by the San Francisco 49ers in 1979:

1979: 2-14

1980: 6-10

1981: 13-3, Superbowl XVI Champions

Bill Parcells: Hired by the New York Giants in 1983:

1983: 3-12-1

1984: 9-7, lost divisional playoff

1985: 10-6, lost divisional playoff

1986: 14-2, Superbowl XXI Champions

Jimmy Johnson: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1989:

1989: 1-15

1990: 7-9

1991: 11-5, Wildcard Playoff Victory

1992: 13-3, Superbowl XXVII Champions

If any of these coaches had coached the Browns today, with those records their first few years, some of you motherfuckers on here would be chomping at the bit to have them fired after their first fucking season.

Good point.

[Tour2ma]

@jbluhm86 said:

Are there members on here really talking about cutting ANOTHER FUCKING COACH already, after just 4 regular season games? Amazing. No wonder our team has been in the shitter for nearly a quarter century, with owners and GM's thinking exactly like you, and turning over head coaches every 2-3 years. And now were reduced to wanting to pitch a coach after only 4 fucking games? Pathetic.

The Browns FO and Hue Jackson did a scorched earth campaign in the offseason to free up cap space and collect draft picks to rebuild a team with. How else did you think this season was going to play out? That we'd go from 3-13 to the Superbowl in one offseason? Get real. The Browns are doing it the right way for a change, by having a decent HC in Hue Jackson and rebuilding the team from the draft. That shit doesn't happen overnight.

For example, lets look at some of the most successful coaches of all time, and how their first few seasons with their teams went:

Tom Landry: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1960:

1960: 0-11-1

1961: 4-9-1

1962: 5-8-1

1963: 4-10

1964: 5-8-1

1965: 7-7

1966: 10-3-1, made it to NFL Championship game

1967: 9-5, made it to NFL Championship game

1968: 12-2, made it to conference championship game

1969: 11-2-1, made it to conference championship game

1970: 10-4, lost Superbowl V

1971: 11-3, Superbowl VI Champions

Chuck Noll: Hired by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1969:

1969: 1-13

1970: 5-9

1971: 6-8

1972: 11-3, made it to AFC Championship game

1973: 10-4, lost divisional playoff

1974: 10-3-1, Superbowl IX Champions

Bll Walsh: Hired by the San Francisco 49ers in 1979:

1979: 2-14

1980: 6-10

1981: 13-3, Superbowl XVI Champions

Bill Parcells: Hired by the New York Giants in 1983:

1983: 3-12-1

1984: 9-7, lost divisional playoff

1985: 10-6, lost divisional playoff

1986: 14-2, Superbowl XXI Champions

Jimmy Johnson: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1989:

1989: 1-15

1990: 7-9

1991: 11-5, Wildcard Playoff Victory

1992: 13-3, Superbowl XXVII Champions

If any of these coaches had coached the Browns today, with those records their first few years, some of you motherfuckers on here would be chomping at the bit to have them fired after their first fucking season.

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@jbluhm86 said:

Are there members on here really talking about cutting ANOTHER FUCKING COACH already, after just 4 regular season games? Amazing. No wonder our team has been in the shitter for nearly a quarter century, with owners and GM's thinking exactly like you, and turning over head coaches every 2-3 years. And now were reduced to wanting to pitch a coach after only 4 fucking games? Pathetic.

The Browns FO and Hue Jackson did a scorched earth campaign in the offseason to free up cap space and collect draft picks to rebuild a team with. How else did you think this season was going to play out? That we'd go from 3-13 to the Superbowl in one offseason? Get real. The Browns are doing it the right way for a change, by having a decent HC in Hue Jackson and rebuilding the team from the draft. That shit doesn't happen overnight.

For example, lets look at some of the most successful coaches of all time, and how their first few seasons with their teams went:

Tom Landry: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1960:

1960: 0-11-1

1961: 4-9-1

1962: 5-8-1

1963: 4-10

1964: 5-8-1

1965: 7-7

1966: 10-3-1, made it to NFL Championship game

1967: 9-5, made it to NFL Championship game

1968: 12-2, made it to conference championship game

1969: 11-2-1, made it to conference championship game

1970: 10-4, lost Superbowl V

1971: 11-3, Superbowl VI Champions

Chuck Noll: Hired by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1969:

1969: 1-13

1970: 5-9

1971: 6-8

1972: 11-3, made it to AFC Championship game

1973: 10-4, lost divisional playoff

1974: 10-3-1, Superbowl IX Champions

Bll Walsh: Hired by the San Francisco 49ers in 1979:

1979: 2-14

1980: 6-10

1981: 13-3, Superbowl XVI Champions

Bill Parcells: Hired by the New York Giants in 1983:

1983: 3-12-1

1984: 9-7, lost divisional playoff

1985: 10-6, lost divisional playoff

1986: 14-2, Superbowl XXI Champions

Jimmy Johnson: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1989:

1989: 1-15

1990: 7-9

1991: 11-5, Wildcard Playoff Victory

1992: 13-3, Superbowl XXVII Champions

If any of these coaches had coached the Browns today, with those records their first few years, some of you motherfuckers on here would be chomping at the bit to have them fired after their first fucking season.

... can be...

@jbluhm86 said:

Are there members on here really talking about cutting ANOTHER FUCKING COACH already, after just 4 regular season games? Amazing. No wonder our team has been in the shitter for nearly a quarter century, with owners and GM's thinking exactly like you, and turning over head coaches every 2-3 years. And now were reduced to wanting to pitch a coach after only 4 fucking games? Pathetic.

The Browns FO and Hue Jackson did a scorched earth campaign in the offseason to free up cap space and collect draft picks to rebuild a team with. How else did you think this season was going to play out? That we'd go from 3-13 to the Superbowl in one offseason? Get real. The Browns are doing it the right way for a change, by having a decent HC in Hue Jackson and rebuilding the team from the draft. That shit doesn't happen overnight.

For example, lets look at some of the most successful coaches of all time, and how their first few seasons with their teams went:

Tom Landry: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1960:

1960: 0-11-1

1961: 4-9-1

1962: 5-8-1

1963: 4-10

1964: 5-8-1

1965: 7-7

1966: 10-3-1, made it to NFL Championship game

1967: 9-5, made it to NFL Championship game

1968: 12-2, made it to conference championship game

1969: 11-2-1, made it to conference championship game

1970: 10-4, lost Superbowl V

1971: 11-3, Superbowl VI Champions

Chuck Noll: Hired by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1969:

1969: 1-13

1970: 5-9

1971: 6-8

1972: 11-3, made it to AFC Championship game

1973: 10-4, lost divisional playoff

1974: 10-3-1, Superbowl IX Champions

Bll Walsh: Hired by the San Francisco 49ers in 1979:

1979: 2-14

1980: 6-10

1981: 13-3, Superbowl XVI Champions

Bill Parcells: Hired by the New York Giants in 1983:

1983: 3-12-1

1984: 9-7, lost divisional playoff

1985: 10-6, lost divisional playoff

1986: 14-2, Superbowl XXI Champions

Jimmy Johnson: Hired by the Dallas Cowboys in 1989:

1989: 1-15

1990: 7-9

1991: 11-5, Wildcard Playoff Victory

1992: 13-3, Superbowl XXVII Champions

If any of these coaches had coached the Browns today, with those records their first few years, some of you motherfuckers on here would be chomping at the bit to have them fired after their first fucking season.

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[browns52]

@mudfly said:

Im not talking about old players.....read what I said...

Im talking about guys like Schobert starting over Orchard....or RGIII starting ahead of McCown.....or Erving playing when we clearly had better options....not old stuff....right now stuff...

THATS why, when these guys have gotten hurt, we've gotten better....cause some of the wrong guys have been playing all along ....

Cal...the question was what we thought of Hue, so is answering honestly considered whining over spilt milk...?

Speaking of Hue....I also wonder why he doesnt run his best player....or stick with the hot hand.....in fact, today, the whole football world is asking the same thing.....offense 101....stick with the hot hand....

We have a guy(Crow), who is currently the top runner in the league and coach only gives him the ball 15 times.....and instead, goes with his third or forth back in a critical situation, when your hot back has only 12 carries....terrible decision making and use of your limited talent...

you are right on this thread conversation...i agree 100 percent...i'm still pissed off with that stupid playcall against the redskins in the redzone...why, why would you give it to a back who hasn't had 1 carry all yr long while we had a back the skins could not stop all day long...not sold on hue at all...to me he looks like same ole same ol...just standing there shaking his head on the sidelines when we fuck up...which has been alot for quite a few yrs now...

[The Cysko Kid]

Being as it is that the Cleveland Indians, Cavaliers, and the Ohio State Buckeyea are all championship caliber teams, it makes it a lot more bearable to allow the Browns time to rebuild properly.

[browns52]

@the-cysko-kid said:

Being as it is that the Cleveland Indians, Cavaliers, and the Ohio State Buckeyea are all championship caliber teams, it makes it a lot more bearable to allow the Browns time to rebuild properly.

i believe the indians have a good shot to get to the world series...gonna be tough...rangers are good too...but i think they are the 2 best teams in the al....

[The Cysko Kid]

I don't expect an Indians championship at this time but how awesome would that be?