Carson Wentz
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Here you go, here is the second guessers delight of Browns draft picks, first column is person Browns took, second column is a guy they coulda had in the same spot that was drafted later:
Courtney Brown......Brian Urlacher
Gerard Warren.....LaDanian Tomlinson
William Green.....Ed Reed
Braylon Edwards....DeMarcus Ware
Kameron Wimbley....Tamba Hali
Brady Quinn....Eric Weddle
Brian Robiskie...LeSean McCoy
Phil Taylor....not make the trade, take Julio Jones
Trent Richardson....Luke Kuechley
Brandon Weeden....Russell Wilson
Barkevious Mingo....DeAndre Hopkins
Justin Gilbert....don't make trade, take Khalil Mack....or even with trade take Aaron Donald
J. Manziel....Derek Carr
Happy now?
Here you go, here is the second guessers delight of Browns draft picks, first column is person Browns took, second column is a guy they coulda had in the same spot that was drafted later:
Courtney Brown......Brian Urlacher
Gerard Warren.....LaDanian Tomlinson
William Green.....Ed Reed
Braylon Edwards....DeMarcus Ware
Kameron Wimbley....Tamba Hali
Brady Quinn....Eric Weddle
Brian Robiskie...LeSean McCoy
Phil Taylor....not make the trade, take Julio Jones
Trent Richardson....Luke Kuechley
Brandon Weeden....Russell Wilson
Barkevious Mingo....DeAndre Hopkins
Justin Gilbert....don't make trade, take Khalil Mack....or even with trade take Aaron Donald
J. Manziel....Derek Carr
Happy now?
You're getting off track here. Every team blows picks. We are talking solely about the QB position, the most important position in football that for 17yrs. the browns have failed to acquire a franchise QB.
You've seen that jersey with all the browns QB's since 99 listed on it all over the internet....never saw one with Taylor crossed out and "shoulda been J. Jones" written under it LOL.
I understand that the browns missing on Wentz is water under the bridge, but after 17 yrs. a mistake of that magnitude is not easy to just poo poo and not talk about.
Bitching about your own team is part of being a fan.
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Here you go, here is the second guessers delight of Browns draft picks, first column is person Browns took, second column is a guy they coulda had in the same spot that was drafted later:
Courtney Brown......Brian Urlacher
Gerard Warren.....LaDanian Tomlinson
William Green.....Ed Reed
Braylon Edwards....DeMarcus Ware
Kameron Wimbley....Tamba Hali
Brady Quinn....Eric Weddle
Brian Robiskie...LeSean McCoy
Phil Taylor....not make the trade, take Julio Jones
Trent Richardson....Luke Kuechley
Brandon Weeden....Russell Wilson
Barkevious Mingo....DeAndre Hopkins
Justin Gilbert....don't make trade, take Khalil Mack....or even with trade take Aaron Donald
J. Manziel....Derek Carr
Happy now?
You're getting off track here. Every team blows picks. We are talking solely about the QB position, the most important position in football that for 17yrs. the browns have failed to acquire a franchise QB.
You've seen that jersey with all the browns QB's since 99 listed on it all over the internet....never saw one with Taylor crossed out and "shoulda been J. Jones" written under it LOL.
I understand that the browns missing on Wentz is water under the bridge, but after 17 yrs. a mistake of that magnitude is not easy to just poo poo and not talk about.
Bitching about your own team is part of being a fan.
You're getting off track here.
No I'm not. This is what Hoorta asked for. And we ride on whatever tracks we choose. We can go to Atchison, or Topeka, or Santa Fe.
Every team blows picks. We are talking solely about the QB position, the most important position in football that for 17yrs. the browns have failed to acquire a franchise QB.
QB is ONE position we are talking about. We can talk about all the positions on the field.
You've seen that jersey with all the browns QB's since 99 listed on it all over the internet....never saw one with Taylor crossed out and "shoulda been J. Jones" written under it LOL.
You act as if QB is the only position they have fucked up with their picks. It sure as hell ain't. If the Browns had hit paydirt on every position but QB over the last 17 years, we would not be talking so badly about the QBs. The rest of the team likely would have been strong.
But they have missed on RB, WR, DL, LB,DBs (though, honestly their high picks at OL have been OK really....Faine, Mack, JT, Bito, Schwartz.....etc. the biggest one of concern is Erving
I understand that the browns missing on Wentz is water under the bridge, but after 17 yrs. a mistake of that magnitude is not easy to just poo poo and not talk about.
Why don't you go off and commit corporal mortification to atone for your sins.
I am not going to do the same to myself over fucking Carson Wentz.
You want to be Christ like? Die for my sins...or the Browns sins.
Otherwise, STFU.
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Here you go, here is the second guessers delight of Browns draft picks, first column is person Browns took, second column is a guy they coulda had in the same spot that was drafted later:
Courtney Brown......Brian Urlacher
Gerard Warren.....LaDanian Tomlinson
William Green.....Ed Reed
Braylon Edwards....DeMarcus Ware
Kameron Wimbley....Tamba Hali
Brady Quinn....Eric Weddle
Brian Robiskie...LeSean McCoy
Phil Taylor....not make the trade, take Julio Jones
Trent Richardson....Luke Kuechley
Brandon Weeden....Russell Wilson
Barkevious Mingo....DeAndre Hopkins
Justin Gilbert....don't make trade, take Khalil Mack....or even with trade take Aaron Donald
J. Manziel....Derek Carr
Happy now?
You're getting off track here. Every team blows picks. We are talking solely about the QB position, the most important position in football that for 17yrs. the browns have failed to acquire a franchise QB.
You've seen that jersey with all the browns QB's since 99 listed on it all over the internet....never saw one with Taylor crossed out and "shoulda been J. Jones" written under it LOL.
I understand that the browns missing on Wentz is water under the bridge, but after 17 yrs. a mistake of that magnitude is not easy to just poo poo and not talk about.
Bitching about your own team is part of being a fan.
You're getting off track here. Every team blows picks. We are talking solely about the QB position, the most important position in football that for 17yrs. the browns have failed to acquire a franchise QB.
You've seen that jersey with all the browns QB's since 99 listed on it all over the internet.
I understand that the browns missing on Wentz is water under the bridge, but after 17 yrs. a mistake of that magnitude is not easy to just poo poo and not talk about.
BUT- the point I was making with Gip is since 1999, the Browns have written the book on how to blow draft picks, year after year. Not just at the QB position. Missed on HOFer Tomlinson & a bunch more I'd say at this point are mortal locks (Reed, Rodgers, Rothlisberger), Yikes, missing on Rodgers and Rothlisberger, too early to say with certainty about Wentz, but right now it's not looking good. (Who could have guessed Wilson and Brady were going to turn out stellar?) In all those years, only two big hits- the Joes, Haden and Thomas.What has me concerned is we went shopping in the bargain bin again this year with Kessler. Tried that before with Frye and McCoy. If this year pans out as I expect- the Browns will have their pick of "franchise" qbs next year Kiser, Watson or Kaaya- they had better not blow it, or trade down again next year.
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Interesting tweet from Gil Brandt. . .
Of 8 current starting QBs that were drafted No. 1 overall, Sam Bradford is only 1 w/ winning record this season. Other 7 are combined 9-19.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
We'll want a lift to Brown's Hotel.
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Interesting tweet from Gil Brandt. . .
Of 8 current starting QBs that were drafted No. 1 overall, Sam Bradford is only 1 w/ winning record this season. Other 7 are combined 9-19.
Interesting tweet from Gil Brandt. . .
Of 8 current starting QBs that were drafted No. 1 overall, Sam Bradford is only 1 w/ winning record this season. Other 7 are combined 9-19.
Winston
Newton
Stafford
Goff...I guess they include him.
Alex Smith
Eli
Carson Palmer
Then Bradford?
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Interesting tweet from Gil Brandt. . .
Of 8 current starting QBs that were drafted No. 1 overall, Sam Bradford is only 1 w/ winning record this season. Other 7 are combined 9-19.
Winston
Newton
Stafford
Goff...I guess they include him.
Alex Smith
Eli
Carson Palmer
Then Bradford?
I think you overlooked Andrew Luck.Winston
Newton
Stafford
Goff...I guess they include him.
Alex Smith
Eli
Carson Palmer
Then Bradford?
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I think you overlooked Andrew Luck.Winston
Newton
Stafford
Goff...I guess they include him.
Alex Smith
Eli
Carson Palmer
Then Bradford?
I think you overlooked Andrew Luck.
Yep, I thought I was missing someone....not named Jamarcus Russell.
I Vick still considered active? I think he had been looking for a team,...and the Browns had thought about him, nay?
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I think you overlooked Andrew Luck.
Yep, I thought I was missing someone....not named Jamarcus Russell.
I Vick still considered active? I think he had been looking for a team,...and the Browns had thought about him, nay?
He's still available, but I don't think there are any takers.Yep, I thought I was missing someone....not named Jamarcus Russell.
I Vick still considered active? I think he had been looking for a team,...and the Browns had thought about him, nay?
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We could had Mack and Carr!!! 2 corner stone players on opposite side of the ball.
But we BLEW it because of some bum and a dumb phone call...
How the fock did the front office not dig anything up during their due diligence?
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different front office, different coaching staff back then.
different front office, different coaching staff back then.
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different front office, different coaching staff back then.
different front office, different coaching staff back then.
different front office, different coaching staff back then.
different front office, different coaching staff back then.
"sigh"
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Why are we still talking about this?
Blah! Because I'm depressed.
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Why are we still talking about this?
Blah! Because I'm depressed.
Blah! Because I'm depressed.
Maybe a hope..Guess Roger loved the Wentz craz & Profit Rating of Eagles games too. 2 days ago the appeal on starting RT Lane Johnson was finally heard on a 10 game suspension for his 2nd PED charge IN JUNE. Appeal decision may not happen this week with Lions game. But in the future 10 games, a OL shuffle may cause issues similar to Browns.LG Barbre will go to RT. S. Wisniewski will slide to LG. More pending penalties & Wentz less time in pocket to release may make him the Rookie the Manning's may remember #clevfromphilly
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
Carson Wentz is gonna be a star.
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To paraphrase Shakespeare... If you prick him, does he not bleed?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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To paraphrase Shakespeare... If you prick him, does he not bleed?
The Merchant of Venice
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The Merchant of Venice
True... but I think the merchant was a lefty...
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