Non parity in the AFC
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On the issue of parity among the NFC and AFC....in the last 30 years the NFL leads 18-12.
Including all Super Bowls played, the NFC/NFL has a 26-24 edge on the AFC/AFL.
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I know, this is off subject about how bad the Browns are, but it is something that occurred to me yesterday after it was noted on the TV that it appears that the Raiders are now a legitimate contender possibly for the AFC title.
The AFC has not experienced the same parity as the other conference. Since the Raiders won their last Super Bowl in 1983, only the following 5 AFC teams have won a Super Bowl:
Broncos (3)
Patriots (4),
Steelers(2),
Ravens(2),
and Colts (1)
Where, in the NFC, since 1983 the following 9 NFC teams have won titles:
Seahawks 1
Rams 1
Saints 1
Bears 1
Bucs 1
49ers 4
Cowboys 3
Giants 4
Redskins 2
In that same era, of the 16 NFC teams 15 have made the Super Bowl....only the Lions have not.
But, in that same era, only 11 of the AFC teams have not made a Super Bowl.
Browns, Jets, Chiefs, Texans, Jaguars have not.
So, I am not sure what this means..but it seems, as I said, the AFC experiences less parity.
Well its not as if the Browns, Jets, Chiefs and Jaguars all haven't had legitimate Super Bowl quality teams since 1983 but for various reasons they just didn't make it.In that same era, of the 16 NFC teams 15 have made the Super Bowl....only the Lions have not.
But, in that same era, only 11 of the AFC teams have not made a Super Bowl.
Browns, Jets, Chiefs, Texans, Jaguars have not.
So, I am not sure what this means..but it seems, as I said, the AFC experiences less parity.
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Sorry about that. But doesn't Front offices, coaching and drafting factor in? The Patriots have had the same system for almost fifteen years. The Broncos now have Elway at the helm and he's making good decisions (Brockweiler stinks). The Cowboys have Jones and tons of money, Pittsburgh has consistency year after year. These teams have Front Offices and Owners who hate to lose! The Seahawks have built a winning culture under their owner and Pete Carroll.
So what's the winning recipe? Draft better players, don't trade down when you have the second pick? Quantity isn't quality! Don't draft head cases and hire better scouts.
The Browns fired several scouts before the 2016 draft and it shows.
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Sorry about that. But doesn't Front offices, coaching and drafting factor in? The Patriots have had the same system for almost fifteen years. The Broncos now have Elway at the helm and he's making good decisions (Brockweiler stinks). The Cowboys have Jones and tons of money, Pittsburgh has consistency year after year. These teams have Front Offices and Owners who hate to lose! The Seahawks have built a winning culture under their owner and Pete Carroll.
So what's the winning recipe? Draft better players, don't trade down when you have the second pick? Quantity isn't quality! Don't draft head cases and hire better scouts.
The Browns fired several scouts before the 2016 draft and it shows.
Sorry about that. But doesn't Front offices, coaching and drafting factor in? The Patriots have had the same system for almost fifteen years. The Broncos now have Elway at the helm and he's making good decisions (Brockweiler stinks). The Cowboys have Jones and tons of money, Pittsburgh has consistency year after year. These teams have Front Offices and Owners who hate to lose! The Seahawks have built a winning culture under their owner and Pete Carroll.
So what's the winning recipe? Draft better players, don't trade down when you have the second pick? Quantity isn't quality! Don't draft head cases and hire better scouts.
The Browns fired several scouts before the 2016 draft and it shows.
All owners hated to lose. That is not the point. For as bad an owner as he was, Art Modell admittedly hated to lose. That didn't make him competent....nor anyone else.
Winning recipe: get a competent talent evaluator.....get an outstanding HC and assts., get a killer QB, and many other good players....and get the owner to get the fuck out of the way. (though, OK, the owners main job is to hire those competent subordinates...GM/HC....that is his job......that an writing the checks.
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Not surprising that the NBA, where you can basically win with 7 players, has been the easiest league to dominate.
And with the way stars are now attracting stars which in turn attracts role players on the cheap, it seems to be getting even easier. Easiest it's been since the bad old days of iron-clad contracts.
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Not surprising that the NBA, where you can basically win with 7 players, has been the easiest league to dominate.
And with the way stars are now attracting stars which in turn attracts role players on the cheap, it seems to be getting even easier. Easiest it's been since the bad old days of iron-clad contracts.
Not surprising that the NBA, where you can basically win with 7 players, has been the easiest league to dominate.
And with the way stars are now attracting stars which in turn attracts role players on the cheap, it seems to be getting even easier. Easiest it's been since the bad old days of iron-clad contracts.
But, at least some new blood is winning: Cavs, obviously. Warriors won for first time in 40 years. Fuck Lakers and Celtics and Bulls.
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Gip - I haven't run any statistical analysis on it, but my guess would that 15 vs. 11 may not be statistically significant based on small sample size. Doesn't meet the eye test, but I'm too lazy to break out my old stat books.
Edit-besides the Browns have skewed (or screwed) all the data!
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Gip - I haven't run any statistical analysis on it, but my guess would that 15 vs. 11 may not be statistically significant based on small sample size. Doesn't meet the eye test, but I'm too lazy to break out my old stat books.
Edit-besides the Browns have skewed (or screwed) all the data!
Gip - I haven't run any statistical analysis on it, but my guess would that 15 vs. 11 may not be statistically significant based on small sample size. Doesn't meet the eye test, but I'm too lazy to break out my old stat books.
Edit-besides the Browns have skewed (or screwed) all the data!
Sad.. The Browns have lost more than Emails "laughs"
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Gip - I haven't run any statistical analysis on it, but my guess would that 15 vs. 11 may not be statistically significant based on small sample size. Doesn't meet the eye test, but I'm too lazy to break out my old stat books.
Edit-besides the Browns have skewed (or screwed) all the data!
Gip - I haven't run any statistical analysis on it, but my guess would that 15 vs. 11 may not be statistically significant based on small sample size. Doesn't meet the eye test, but I'm too lazy to break out my old stat books.
Edit-besides the Browns have skewed (or screwed) all the data!
Perhaps not. But originally I was looking at just the Super Bowl wins....and the NFC's 9 vs. AFC 5 seemed statistically significant.
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Gip - I haven't run any statistical analysis on it, but my guess would that 15 vs. 11 may not be statistically significant based on small sample size. Doesn't meet the eye test, but I'm too lazy to break out my old stat books.
Edit-besides the Browns have skewed (or screwed) all the data!
Perhaps not. But originally I was looking at just the Super Bowl wins....and the NFC's 9 vs. AFC 5 seemed statistically significant.
Perhaps not. But originally I was looking at just the Super Bowl wins....and the NFC's 9 vs. AFC 5 seemed statistically significant.
... but is irrelevant to your hypothesis.
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Eh, that non parity is much to do about nothing.
What I found startling is the lack of parity between man and animal.
There are 16 teams named after a man, and 16 after an animal or thing.
If a team's nickname is human, then the chances of winning a Super Bowl are far greater than if a teams nickname is that of an animal or thing.
No parity between man and animal. This is not fair. Needs to be investigated.
Man with 37 SB victories, animal with 13.
What do you think Gip?
Steelers 6
49'ers 5
Cowboys 5
Packers 4
Patriots 4
Giants 4
Raiders 3
Redskins 3
Buccaneers 1
Chiefs 1
Saints 1
Browns
Titans
Vikings
Bills
Texans
Broncos 3
Ravens 2
Colts 2
Dolphins 2
Rams 1
Bears 1
Seahawks 1
Jets 1
Falcons
Eagles
Cardinals
Bengals
Lions
Jaguars
Panthers
Chargers
At least the browns got that going for them!
Poor bengals.
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Eh, that non parity is much to do about nothing.
What I found startling is the lack of parity between man and animal.
There are 16 teams named after a man, and 16 after an animal or thing.
If a team's nickname is human, then the chances of winning a Super Bowl are far greater than if a teams nickname is that of an animal or thing.
No parity between man and animal. This is not fair. Needs to be investigated.
Man with 37 SB victories, animal with 13.
What do you think Gip?
Steelers 6
49'ers 5
Cowboys 5
Packers 4
Patriots 4
Giants 4
Raiders 3
Redskins 3
Buccaneers 1
Chiefs 1
Saints 1
Browns
Titans
Vikings
Bills
Texans
Broncos 3
Ravens 2
Colts 2
Dolphins 2
Rams 1
Bears 1
Seahawks 1
Jets 1
Falcons
Eagles
Cardinals
Bengals
Lions
Jaguars
Panthers
Chargers
At least the browns got that going for them!
Poor bengals.
Eh, that non parity is much to do about nothing.
What I found startling is the lack of parity between man and animal.
There are 16 teams named after a man, and 16 after an animal or thing.
If a team's nickname is human, then the chances of winning a Super Bowl are far greater than if a teams nickname is that of an animal or thing.
No parity between man and animal. This is not fair. Needs to be investigated.
Man with 37 SB victories, animal with 13.
What do you think Gip?
Steelers 6
49'ers 5
Cowboys 5
Packers 4
Patriots 4
Giants 4
Raiders 3
Redskins 3
Buccaneers 1
Chiefs 1
Saints 1
Browns
Titans
Vikings
Bills
Texans
Broncos 3
Ravens 2
Colts 2
Dolphins 2
Rams 1
Bears 1
Seahawks 1
Jets 1
Falcons
Eagles
Cardinals
Bengals
Lions
Jaguars
Panthers
Chargers
At least the browns got that going for them!
Poor bengals.
The Browns have more championships than the Steelers, you dumb fuck.
Did you know they were championships before they gave them the name "Super Bowl"?
Let's throw out all World Series before playoff series, all Basketball championships before expansion, and any hockey championships by the original 6 while we are at it.
Just because the Steelers were fucking awful before 1970 doesnt mean it didn't happen.
Z
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NY Jets are not animals.
But they are men. Well Jets from West Side story were anyway.
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NY Jets are not animals.
But they are men. Well Jets from West Side story were anyway.
NY Jets are not animals.
But they are men. Well Jets from West Side story were anyway.
I'm afraid even those guys would give the BROWNS a game....well maybe if they kept their switchblades, and they could dance!
Now back to the Titans, just what is a titan?
Well whatever they're favored by 7 Sunday in what might be a low scoring game, but no switchblades. 
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NY Jets are not animals.
But they are men. Well Jets from West Side story were anyway.
I'm afraid even those guys would give the BROWNS a game....well maybe if they kept their switchblades, and they could dance!
Now back to the Titans, just what is a titan?
Well whatever they're favored by 7 Sunday in what might be a low scoring game, but no switchblades.
A Titan is a baby tit.I'm afraid even those guys would give the BROWNS a game....well maybe if they kept their switchblades, and they could dance!
Now back to the Titans, just what is a titan?
Well whatever they're favored by 7 Sunday in what might be a low scoring game, but no switchblades. -
Eh, that non parity is much to do about nothing.
What I found startling is the lack of parity between man and animal.
There are 16 teams named after a man, and 16 after an animal or thing.
If a team's nickname is human, then the chances of winning a Super Bowl are far greater than if a teams nickname is that of an animal or thing.
No parity between man and animal. This is not fair. Needs to be investigated.
Man with 37 SB victories, animal with 13.
What do you think Gip?
Steelers 6
49'ers 5
Cowboys 5
Packers 4
Patriots 4
Giants 4
Raiders 3
Redskins 3
Buccaneers 1
Chiefs 1
Saints 1
Browns
Titans
Vikings
Bills
Texans
Broncos 3
Ravens 2
Colts 2
Dolphins 2
Rams 1
Bears 1
Seahawks 1
Jets 1
Falcons
Eagles
Cardinals
Bengals
Lions
Jaguars
Panthers
Chargers
At least the browns got that going for them!
Poor bengals.
Eh, that non parity is much to do about nothing.
What I found startling is the lack of parity between man and animal.
There are 16 teams named after a man, and 16 after an animal or thing.
If a team's nickname is human, then the chances of winning a Super Bowl are far greater than if a teams nickname is that of an animal or thing.
No parity between man and animal. This is not fair. Needs to be investigated.
Man with 37 SB victories, animal with 13.
What do you think Gip?
Steelers 6
49'ers 5
Cowboys 5
Packers 4
Patriots 4
Giants 4
Raiders 3
Redskins 3
Buccaneers 1
Chiefs 1
Saints 1
Browns
Titans
Vikings
Bills
Texans
Broncos 3
Ravens 2
Colts 2
Dolphins 2
Rams 1
Bears 1
Seahawks 1
Jets 1
Falcons
Eagles
Cardinals
Bengals
Lions
Jaguars
Panthers
Chargers
At least the browns got that going for them!
Poor bengals.
What I think is that this is quite hilarious and interesting at the same time! You are right, there aught to be an investigation.
I wish it was a statistic that I had thought of researching.
Bravo!
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NY Jets are not animals.
But they are men. Well Jets from West Side story were anyway.
NY Jets are not animals.
But they are men. Well Jets from West Side story were anyway.
Right, both Jets and Chargers are not animals. (though a Charger could be I guess) I will have to check on that.
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NY Jets are not animals.
But they are men. Well Jets from West Side story were anyway.
I'm afraid even those guys would give the BROWNS a game....well maybe if they kept their switchblades, and they could dance!
Now back to the Titans, just what is a titan?
Well whatever they're favored by 7 Sunday in what might be a low scoring game, but no switchblades. I'm afraid even those guys would give the BROWNS a game....well maybe if they kept their switchblades, and they could dance!
Now back to the Titans, just what is a titan?
Well whatever they're favored by 7 Sunday in what might be a low scoring game, but no switchblades. What about a Giant? Is a Giant a human or an animal?
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Eh, that non parity is much to do about nothing.
What I found startling is the lack of parity between man and animal.
There are 16 teams named after a man, and 16 after an animal or thing.
If a team's nickname is human, then the chances of winning a Super Bowl are far greater than if a teams nickname is that of an animal or thing.
No parity between man and animal. This is not fair. Needs to be investigated.
Man with 37 SB victories, animal with 13.
What do you think Gip?
Steelers 6
49'ers 5
Cowboys 5
Packers 4
Patriots 4
Giants 4
Raiders 3
Redskins 3
Buccaneers 1
Chiefs 1
Saints 1
Browns
Titans
Vikings
Bills
Texans
Broncos 3
Ravens 2
Colts 2
Dolphins 2
Rams 1
Bears 1
Seahawks 1
Jets 1
Falcons
Eagles
Cardinals
Bengals
Lions
Jaguars
Panthers
Chargers
At least the browns got that going for them!
Poor bengals.
The Browns have more championships than the Steelers, you dumb fuck.
Did you know they were championships before they gave them the name "Super Bowl"?
Let's throw out all World Series before playoff series, all Basketball championships before expansion, and any hockey championships by the original 6 while we are at it.
Just because the Steelers were fucking awful before 1970 doesnt mean it didn't happen.
Z
Zombo said:
The Browns have more championships than the Steelers, you dumb fuck.
Did you know they were championships before they gave them the name "Super Bowl"?
Let's throw out all World Series before playoff series, all Basketball championships before expansion, and any hockey championships by the original 6 while we are at it.
Just because the Steelers were fucking awful before 1970 doesnt mean it didn't happen.
Z
Right. What he needs to do is to break down his human vs. animal analysis by going back to the beginning in 1920s.
But just briefly here is the deal with defunct teams that won titles:
Bulldogs and Yellowjackets are "animals"
Pros were human.
But what about the Providence Steamroller? Was that in reference to the humans that operated a Steamroller, or the machine itself?
And how do we categorize machines. Steamroller and Jets are inanimate object, neither human nor animal.
Are you all in favor of "Inanimate Object Rights"?
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