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  • I'm waiting for MLB Friday with the Indians -but- I may catch some here, have a few FL guys in.

    @mjp28 said:

    I'm waiting for MLB Friday with the Indians -but- I may catch some here, have a few FL guys in.

    That game STUNK if you had two DEN WRS who together had less than 100 Yds and -0- TDS plus the kicker....too bad he missed that 56 yarder, could have used that.

    I'm gonna get buried this week.

  • @mjp28 said:

    I'm waiting for MLB Friday with the Indians -but- I may catch some here, have a few FL guys in.

    That game STUNK if you had two DEN WRS who together had less than 100 Yds and -0- TDS plus the kicker....too bad he missed that 56 yarder, could have used that.

    I'm gonna get buried this week.

    @mjp28 said:

    That game STUNK if you had two DEN WRS who together had less than 100 Yds and -0- TDS plus the kicker....too bad he missed that 56 yarder, could have used that.

    I'm gonna get buried this week.

    What no extra points for the late FG made on 1st down? 😉

  • @mjp28 said:

    I'm waiting for MLB Friday with the Indians -but- I may catch some here, have a few FL guys in.

    That game STUNK if you had two DEN WRS who together had less than 100 Yds and -0- TDS plus the kicker....too bad he missed that 56 yarder, could have used that.

    I'm gonna get buried this week.

    @mjp28 said:

    That game STUNK if you had two DEN WRS who together had less than 100 Yds and -0- TDS plus the kicker....too bad he missed that 56 yarder, could have used that.

    I'm gonna get buried this week.

    I played DT and the Broncos D thinking that pass rush would consistently get home while force feeding targets to Demarius.

    Needless to say, I'm writing hate mail to Siemian this weekend.

  • @mjp28 said:

    That game STUNK if you had two DEN WRS who together had less than 100 Yds and -0- TDS plus the kicker....too bad he missed that 56 yarder, could have used that.

    I'm gonna get buried this week.

    What no extra points for the late FG made on 1st down? 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    What no extra points for the late FG made on 1st down? 😉

    Yeah that bumped him way up to 8.00, still outscored each WR. 😕

  • Bosa what? Has a spin move? Cleans up after others do the real dirt? Yeah he bruised his pinky and had to sit out for a couple of series while they had his korean nails lady come in and to his cuticles. I saw one play where he looked good. Don't blow him up like he's some all-pro just cuz he played for the bucks.

    @miktoxic said:

    Bosa what? Has a spin move? Cleans up after others do the real dirt? Yeah he bruised his pinky and had to sit out for a couple of series while they had his korean nails lady come in and to his cuticles. I saw one play where he looked good. Don't blow him up like he's some all-pro just cuz he played for the bucks.

    Didn't they have to pop that fucker back in? You'd have passed out clean mik stop your troll. Doesn't Bosa already have more sacks than the entire Browns front line? And didn't that happen against the best O line in football on just 27 snaps? Anyway, he made a play last night where he set the edge and then spun back inside to catch Simian from behind. Basically the qb fell forward an inch past the los so it wasn't a sack technically. Point is we haven't had an edge player in probably a decade or more that was capable of that play. How many times did i watch Kruger get upfield and then be completely incapable of disengaging from his blocker? Even if it was a TE blocking him. How many times did we watch that? I thought Sheard was a good piece for us but im not sure i ever saw him make a play like that.

    The only issue i see right now with Bosa's game is he needs to get stronger. That will come. It was his 2nd game. I say the same thing about Nassib who I'm very optimistic about. But we can clearly see how much more NFL ready Bosa is than Nassib. That's why Bosa went 3rd and Nassib went in the 4th round.

  • as you and others would say when talking about players we didn't draft:

    "FUCK HIM! HE'S NOT A BROWN!!"

    friggin homers.

  • Bosa sure is looking like a twink out there....

    @tiamat63 said:

    Bosa sure is looking like a twink out there....

    Takes one to know one twink

  • Bosa would be the best pass rusher on this entire team if he were here. That's kind of sad. But to me, more importantly, he'd be our best run stopper. In two games he's showed the same sniff for the run game as he did at OSU. God we could have had him and nassib in the draft. We would be set for the next 8 years at our edges. Both him and Nassib still need to grow but that's expected.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Bosa sure is looking like a twink out there....

    Takes one to know one twink

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Takes one to know one twink

    You know it, boo.

  • Bosa would be the best pass rusher on this entire team if he were here. That's kind of sad. But to me, more importantly, he'd be our best run stopper. In two games he's showed the same sniff for the run game as he did at OSU. God we could have had him and nassib in the draft. We would be set for the next 8 years at our edges. Both him and Nassib still need to grow but that's expected.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Bosa would be the best pass rusher on this entire team if he were here. That's kind of sad. But to me, more importantly, he'd be our best run stopper. In two games he's showed the same sniff for the run game as he did at OSU. God we could have had him and nassib in the draft. We would be set for the next 8 years at our edges. Both him and Nassib still need to grow but that's expected.

    Clevs - I'm reading Bosa's brother is supposed to be even better than Joey. He's already making some big plays. That's gotta be terrific news for the Bosa fan club.

    Joey spent most of the first 4 weeks with a hammy injury. Nassib spent most of the first month on the sideline with a broken hand. Both guys had first appearances to be excited about. It'll be interesting to see which one has better upside ahead. I remember Kam Wimbley coming to Cleveland and putting in a good rookie year rushing the passer. 1 year later, opponents started to throw the ball into the flats adjacent to where he lined up. He went from sic em on every play to thinking on every play. The change of it all, didn't even get him a second contract here. My guess is this is what teams will try to do to Bosa to test whether he's just a gifted pass rusher or a master of all trades. Since you're a huge fan, you and San Diego better hope he has better first step instinct than Wimbley had.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Bosa would be the best pass rusher on this entire team if he were here. That's kind of sad. But to me, more importantly, he'd be our best run stopper. In two games he's showed the same sniff for the run game as he did at OSU. God we could have had him and nassib in the draft. We would be set for the next 8 years at our edges. Both him and Nassib still need to grow but that's expected.

    Clevs - I'm reading Bosa's brother is supposed to be even better than Joey. He's already making some big plays. That's gotta be terrific news for the Bosa fan club.

    Joey spent most of the first 4 weeks with a hammy injury. Nassib spent most of the first month on the sideline with a broken hand. Both guys had first appearances to be excited about. It'll be interesting to see which one has better upside ahead. I remember Kam Wimbley coming to Cleveland and putting in a good rookie year rushing the passer. 1 year later, opponents started to throw the ball into the flats adjacent to where he lined up. He went from sic em on every play to thinking on every play. The change of it all, didn't even get him a second contract here. My guess is this is what teams will try to do to Bosa to test whether he's just a gifted pass rusher or a master of all trades. Since you're a huge fan, you and San Diego better hope he has better first step instinct than Wimbley had.

    @flugel said:

    Clevs - I'm reading Bosa's brother is supposed to be even better than Joey. He's already making some big plays. That's gotta be terrific news for the Bosa fan club.

    Joey spent most of the first 4 weeks with a hammy injury. Nassib spent most of the first month on the sideline with a broken hand. Both guys had first appearances to be excited about. It'll be interesting to see which one has better upside ahead. I remember Kam Wimbley coming to Cleveland and putting in a good rookie year rushing the passer. 1 year later, opponents started to throw the ball into the flats adjacent to where he lined up. He went from sic em on every play to thinking on every play. The change of it all, didn't even get him a second contract here. My guess is this is what teams will try to do to Bosa to test whether he's just a gifted pass rusher or a master of all trades. Since you're a huge fan, you and San Diego better hope he has better first step instinct than Wimbley had.

    wimbley wasn't half the player that bosa is. Edge rusher yes, but Bosa is not just an edge rusher. His run stopping is what made me want him on the Browns defense. He's already made a couple plays that i haven't seen a veteran on this team make in maybe over a decade. H

  • And from what i've seen of nick so far he's kind of a stiff. Nowhere near what Joey was but that's ok it's his first year. Nick hasn't developed Joeys hand skills yet.

  • And from what i've seen of nick so far he's kind of a stiff. Nowhere near what Joey was but that's ok it's his first year. Nick hasn't developed Joeys hand skills yet.

    @clevfan4life said:

    . Nick hasn't developed Joeys hand skills yet.

    It's because Nick doesn't jack off as much as Joey. Maybe in the future but as for now Nicks getting the real thing.

  • @miktoxic said:

    Bosa what? Has a spin move? Cleans up after others do the real dirt? Yeah he bruised his pinky and had to sit out for a couple of series while they had his korean nails lady come in and to his cuticles. I saw one play where he looked good. Don't blow him up like he's some all-pro just cuz he played for the bucks.

    Didn't they have to pop that fucker back in? You'd have passed out clean mik stop your troll. Doesn't Bosa already have more sacks than the entire Browns front line? And didn't that happen against the best O line in football on just 27 snaps? Anyway, he made a play last night where he set the edge and then spun back inside to catch Simian from behind. Basically the qb fell forward an inch past the los so it wasn't a sack technically. Point is we haven't had an edge player in probably a decade or more that was capable of that play. How many times did i watch Kruger get upfield and then be completely incapable of disengaging from his blocker? Even if it was a TE blocking him. How many times did we watch that? I thought Sheard was a good piece for us but im not sure i ever saw him make a play like that.

    The only issue i see right now with Bosa's game is he needs to get stronger. That will come. It was his 2nd game. I say the same thing about Nassib who I'm very optimistic about. But we can clearly see how much more NFL ready Bosa is than Nassib. That's why Bosa went 3rd and Nassib went in the 4th round.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Didn't they have to pop that fucker back in? You'd have passed out clean mik stop your troll. Doesn't Bosa already have more sacks than the entire Browns front line? And didn't that happen against the best O line in football on just 27 snaps? Anyway, he made a play last night where he set the edge and then spun back inside to catch Simian from behind. Basically the qb fell forward an inch past the los so it wasn't a sack technically. Point is we haven't had an edge player in probably a decade or more that was capable of that play. How many times did i watch Kruger get upfield and then be completely incapable of disengaging from his blocker? Even if it was a TE blocking him. How many times did we watch that? I thought Sheard was a good piece for us but im not sure i ever saw him make a play like that.

    The only issue i see right now with Bosa's game is he needs to get stronger. That will come. It was his 2nd game. I say the same thing about Nassib who I'm very optimistic about. But we can clearly see how much more NFL ready Bosa is than Nassib. That's why Bosa went 3rd and Nassib went in the 4th round.

    Nassib didn't go in round 4 - he went near the top of round 3. That said, he didn't wear an Ohio State uniform while he led the country at sacking the QB. My guess is if PSU played with as many leads as Ohio State - Nassib could have had even more sacks.

    I like Carl's NFL starting point. Plenty of room to add more size and strength for a guy that just started to tap his best football in 2015. He had a pretty good first NFL game too before getting a hand cast 1 week later. He's got those Ted Hendricks levers that came in handy especially when nobody else was in position to make a tackle on a screen pass and he reached out to make the tackle. I'm not sure how much the injury/cast impedes that.

  • And from what i've seen of nick so far he's kind of a stiff. Nowhere near what Joey was but that's ok it's his first year. Nick hasn't developed Joeys hand skills yet.

    @clevfan4life said:

    And from what i've seen of nick so far he's kind of a stiff. Nowhere near what Joey was but that's ok it's his first year. Nick hasn't developed Joeys hand skills yet.

    The true freshmen coming back from and ACL injury looked pretty damn good last night
  • @clevfan4life said:

    And from what i've seen of nick so far he's kind of a stiff. Nowhere near what Joey was but that's ok it's his first year. Nick hasn't developed Joeys hand skills yet.

    The true freshmen coming back from and ACL injury looked pretty damn good last night

    @richiswhere said:

    The true freshmen coming back from and ACL injury looked pretty damn good last night

    Yeah he's quicker than i gave him credit for. Still he doesnt have joeys hands yet

  • Btw finishing up the 2nd half of the chargers game. Bosa looks really good. I dont think he recorded a sack in this game but so far from what ive seen he's come within inches of 3-4 sacks. Simians having to get rid of the ball quick, and chargers secondary is jumping on it. I would kill for this kind of pressure from the browns edges.

  • And the one thing that really stands out is how much faster joey looks than any one else in the trenches. When he stunts the ol look in full panic mode to get their hands on him.

    Also, u cant block joey with a TE. He bulled the broncos TE out of his shoes a couple times and the broncos said ok enough of that get an ol on him. How many times did we watch in disbeleif as a TE rode jruger out of the play like a rented mule? Happy to say i watched nassib do the same when his hand wasnt gimped. These two guys are gonna represent the big 10 well imo over the next few years

  • I have to agree, Joey is looking good. And he's not even in game shape yet...

    Still not convinced he was worth an overall #2, but he is looking good.

  • I have to agree, Joey is looking good. And he's not even in game shape yet...

    Still not convinced he was worth an overall #2, but he is looking good.

    @tour2ma said:

    I have to agree, Joey is looking good. And he's not even in game shape yet...

    Still not convinced he was worth an overall #2, but he is looking good.

    The only thing right now that i see missing from his game is the power edge rush that he had at OH St. His primary outside move right now is that slap down that got Kruger nowhere for 3 years. He's a ton quicker than Kruger was so he's getting close. Still if he was able to dig out the tackles outside shoulder more we may have witness the best opening two games of a defensive rookie ever. I know SD dropped some weight on him and that's fine, his field quicks just look amazing...but he needs that power game to be complete. I'm fully expecting a year or two in an NFL weight room gets that power game back while not putting on a whole ton of weight.

    And everythign i just said is exactly what i hope Nassib and Ogbah go through although im not liking Og at all right now. Actually both him and Nassib are getting their arms folded up constantly. Those bad habits from College haven't been gotten rid of yet. Keeping those arms stiff and bench pressing OL is what made Joey at OSU, and he's still doing it...those run stop plays he made thursday and the week before against arguably a top 3 O line were classic Bosa. Keep the OL at arms length with a crisp shot to the pads and read the play.