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  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Hey now......

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    This is why I am voting for Trump. Just wish he would have listened to his advisers and stuck to winning issues and not get baited and trapped into going into the weeds where he loses. He wins on the issues so the dems strategy was always to get him off message and unfortunately they succeeded.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    This is why I am voting for Trump. Just wish he would have listened to his advisers and stuck to winning issues and not get baited and trapped into going into the weeds where he loses. He wins on the issues so the dems strategy was always to get him off message and unfortunately they succeeded.

    If elected, do you believe Trump will cease to be "baited and trapped"? Are the stakes not slightly higher for a President on the world stage?

  • I hope this is looked at, in the future, as the lowest point in American political history but I fear it might not be.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I hope this is looked at, in the future, as the lowest point in American political history but I fear it might not be.

    Oh America has been through some major low points, Watergate, Iran Contra, Vietnam, The Great Depression to name a few but this is the most computer driven, media driven (both sides), TV 24/7 crapfest (both sides) I've ever seen and I'm 66.

    I just hope it ends in November and I get my TV back.

    America then better start working on finding better decent candidates for 2018, 2020 (both sides).

    It would be nice not to be the laughing stock of the world again.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    This is why I am voting for Trump. Just wish he would have listened to his advisers and stuck to winning issues and not get baited and trapped into going into the weeds where he loses. He wins on the issues so the dems strategy was always to get him off message and unfortunately they succeeded.

    If elected, do you believe Trump will cease to be "baited and trapped"? Are the stakes not slightly higher for a President on the world stage?

    @tour2ma said:

    If elected, do you believe Trump will cease to be "baited and trapped"? Are the stakes not slightly higher for a President on the world stage?

    Well we don't have two good choices, we have two bad choices. Clinton put our national security at risk so she could hide her emails from the public.Clinton handled herself horribly in her incompetence and lying about Benghazi. Clinton's character in my opinion is even worse than Trump. The lesser of two evils for me is Trump. BTW - The way to bait the Clinton's is to wave some cash under their nose.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Hey now......

    14650261_10154698439636336_3782420364754

    This is why I am voting for Trump. Just wish he would have listened to his advisers and stuck to winning issues and not get baited and trapped into going into the weeds where he loses. He wins on the issues so the dems strategy was always to get him off message and unfortunately they succeeded.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    This is why I am voting for Trump. Just wish he would have listened to his advisers and stuck to winning issues and not get baited and trapped into going into the weeds where he loses. He wins on the issues so the dems strategy was always to get him off message and unfortunately they succeeded.

    "baited and trapped"?

    He was baited to tweet? Trapped into saying what he has?

    That's either BS or Trump is mentally incompetent

  • @westside-steve said:

    Horseshit, to coin a phrase.

    They realized that idiot which is most of the electorate want to hear about sex whether it's true or not and are bored stiff about the dishonesty of the candidate they love.

    You say horseshit...

    I say bullshit...

    Horseshit Bullshit Horseshit Bullshit...

    Let's call the whole thing off...

    Are you buying into the Carlos Slim theory as well?

    @tour2ma said:

    You say horseshit...

    I say bullshit...

    Horseshit Bullshit Horseshit Bullshit...

    Let's call the whole thing off...

    Are you buying into the Carlos Slim theory as well?

    I honestly don't know who Carlos Slim is.

    WSS

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    This is why I am voting for Trump. Just wish he would have listened to his advisers and stuck to winning issues and not get baited and trapped into going into the weeds where he loses. He wins on the issues so the dems strategy was always to get him off message and unfortunately they succeeded.

    "baited and trapped"?

    He was baited to tweet? Trapped into saying what he has?

    That's either BS or Trump is mentally incompetent

    @mld-woody said:

    "baited and trapped"?

    He was baited to tweet? Trapped into saying what he has?

    That's either BS or Trump is mentally incompetent

    I would not say Trump is mentally incompetent but he does have a character flaw being exploited. Little Trump doesn't seem to be able to let go of any slight big or small without going on the attack when sometimes politically it is better just to ignore it. Examples are the Khan family or Miss Universe or whatever is used to set him off.

    It is known when Trump stays on message he wins and when he gets sidetracked off the real issues he goes down in the polls.

    Dick Morris: Hillary Campaign Is Baiting Trump

    Donald Trump's spat with the family of the fallen Muslim Army captain is a clear example of how Hillary Clinton's campaign "is based on baiting Trump," political strategist Dick Morris told Newsmax TV on Wednesday.

    "She said it in her speech," at the Democratic national convention last week, Morris told "Newsmax Prime" host J.D. Hayworth. "She said, 'A man you can bait with a tweet.'

    "Their whole technique is to tease him and bait him and anger him. He departs from the straight and narrow, lashes out — and the lash-out becomes the coverage.

    "You forget about immigration," Morris continued. "You forget about trade. You forget about jobs. You forget about terrorism, crime.

    "All you're talking about is insulting this veteran," he added. "That's how the media plays him."

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/dick-morris-hillary-clinton-campaign-baiting/2016/08/03/id/742044/

  • @mld-woody said:

    "baited and trapped"?

    He was baited to tweet? Trapped into saying what he has?

    That's either BS or Trump is mentally incompetent

    I would not say Trump is mentally incompetent but he does have a character flaw being exploited. Little Trump doesn't seem to be able to let go of any slight big or small without going on the attack when sometimes politically it is better just to ignore it. Examples are the Khan family or Miss Universe or whatever is used to set him off.

    It is known when Trump stays on message he wins and when he gets sidetracked off the real issues he goes down in the polls.

    Dick Morris: Hillary Campaign Is Baiting Trump

    Donald Trump's spat with the family of the fallen Muslim Army captain is a clear example of how Hillary Clinton's campaign "is based on baiting Trump," political strategist Dick Morris told Newsmax TV on Wednesday.

    "She said it in her speech," at the Democratic national convention last week, Morris told "Newsmax Prime" host J.D. Hayworth. "She said, 'A man you can bait with a tweet.'

    "Their whole technique is to tease him and bait him and anger him. He departs from the straight and narrow, lashes out — and the lash-out becomes the coverage.

    "You forget about immigration," Morris continued. "You forget about trade. You forget about jobs. You forget about terrorism, crime.

    "All you're talking about is insulting this veteran," he added. "That's how the media plays him."

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/dick-morris-hillary-clinton-campaign-baiting/2016/08/03/id/742044/

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I would not say Trump is mentally incompetent but he does have a character flaw being exploited. Little Trump doesn't seem to be able to let go of any slight big or small without going on the attack when sometimes politically it is better just to ignore it. Examples are the Khan family or Miss Universe or whatever is used to set him off.

    It is known when Trump stays on message he wins and when he gets sidetracked off the real issues he goes down in the polls.

    Dick Morris: Hillary Campaign Is Baiting Trump

    Donald Trump's spat with the family of the fallen Muslim Army captain is a clear example of how Hillary Clinton's campaign "is based on baiting Trump," political strategist Dick Morris told Newsmax TV on Wednesday.

    "She said it in her speech," at the Democratic national convention last week, Morris told "Newsmax Prime" host J.D. Hayworth. "She said, 'A man you can bait with a tweet.'

    "Their whole technique is to tease him and bait him and anger him. He departs from the straight and narrow, lashes out and the lash-out becomes the coverage.

    "You forget about immigration," Morris continued. "You forget about trade. You forget about jobs. You forget about terrorism, crime.

    "All you're talking about is insulting this veteran," he added. "That's how the media plays him."

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/dick-morris-hillary-clinton-campaign-baiting/2016/08/03/id/742044/

    True.

    He really does need to just ignore these assholes.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    "baited and trapped"?

    He was baited to tweet? Trapped into saying what he has?

    That's either BS or Trump is mentally incompetent

    I would not say Trump is mentally incompetent but he does have a character flaw being exploited. Little Trump doesn't seem to be able to let go of any slight big or small without going on the attack when sometimes politically it is better just to ignore it. Examples are the Khan family or Miss Universe or whatever is used to set him off.

    It is known when Trump stays on message he wins and when he gets sidetracked off the real issues he goes down in the polls.

    Dick Morris: Hillary Campaign Is Baiting Trump

    Donald Trump's spat with the family of the fallen Muslim Army captain is a clear example of how Hillary Clinton's campaign "is based on baiting Trump," political strategist Dick Morris told Newsmax TV on Wednesday.

    "She said it in her speech," at the Democratic national convention last week, Morris told "Newsmax Prime" host J.D. Hayworth. "She said, 'A man you can bait with a tweet.'

    "Their whole technique is to tease him and bait him and anger him. He departs from the straight and narrow, lashes out — and the lash-out becomes the coverage.

    "You forget about immigration," Morris continued. "You forget about trade. You forget about jobs. You forget about terrorism, crime.

    "All you're talking about is insulting this veteran," he added. "That's how the media plays him."

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/dick-morris-hillary-clinton-campaign-baiting/2016/08/03/id/742044/

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I would not say Trump is mentally incompetent but he does have a character flaw being exploited. Little Trump doesn't seem to be able to let go of any slight big or small without going on the attack when sometimes politically it is better just to ignore it. Examples are the Khan family or Miss Universe or whatever is used to set him off.

    It is known when Trump stays on message he wins and when he gets sidetracked off the real issues he goes down in the polls.

    Dick Morris: Hillary Campaign Is Baiting Trump

    Donald Trump's spat with the family of the fallen Muslim Army captain is a clear example of how Hillary Clinton's campaign "is based on baiting Trump," political strategist Dick Morris told Newsmax TV on Wednesday.

    "She said it in her speech," at the Democratic national convention last week, Morris told "Newsmax Prime" host J.D. Hayworth. "She said, 'A man you can bait with a tweet.'

    "Their whole technique is to tease him and bait him and anger him. He departs from the straight and narrow, lashes out — and the lash-out becomes the coverage.

    "You forget about immigration," Morris continued. "You forget about trade. You forget about jobs. You forget about terrorism, crime.

    "All you're talking about is insulting this veteran," he added. "That's how the media plays him."

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/dick-morris-hillary-clinton-campaign-baiting/2016/08/03/id/742044/

    Which is all Trump's fault at the end of the day.

  • Unfortunately not one of the news cycle eruptions from the Democrats and their Partners in the MSM have had anything to do with policies qualifications positions, nothing.

    No wonder the Europeans, as ineffectual as they are as far as the world stage, I think we're idiots.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Unfortunately not one of the news cycle eruptions from the Democrats and their Partners in the MSM have had anything to do with policies qualifications positions, nothing.

    No wonder the Europeans, as ineffectual as they are as far as the world stage, I think we're idiots.

    WSS

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @westside-steve said:

    Unfortunately not one of the news cycle eruptions from the Democrats and their Partners in the MSM have had anything to do with policies qualifications positions, nothing.

    No wonder the Europeans, as ineffectual as they are as far as the world stage, I think we're idiots.

    WSS

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    @jbluhm86 said:

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I'm kinda curious if your hick cintucki ass ever served in the military, voted or contributed to society you fucking piece of excrement.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I'm kinda curious if your hick cintucki ass ever served in the military, voted or contributed to society you fucking piece of excrement.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm kinda curious if your hick cintucki ass ever served in the military, voted or contributed to society you fucking piece of excrement.

    Two out of three. Enjoy your Dewars.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm kinda curious if your hick cintucki ass ever served in the military, voted or contributed to society you fucking piece of excrement.

    Two out of three. Enjoy your Dewars.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Two out of three. Enjoy your Dewars.

    I'd say zero out of three.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Unfortunately not one of the news cycle eruptions from the Democrats and their Partners in the MSM have had anything to do with policies qualifications positions, nothing.

    No wonder the Europeans, as ineffectual as they are as far as the world stage, I think we're idiots.

    WSS

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    @jbluhm86 said:

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Headlines? Where? Silly websites that only silly people read or the New York Times Washington Post ABC NBC etc etc.

    And who exactly made those claims? If those claims were ever made?

    WSS

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Headlines? Where? Silly websites that only silly people read or the New York Times Washington Post ABC NBC etc etc.

    And who exactly made those claims? If those claims were ever made?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Headlines? Where? Silly websites that only silly people read or the New York Times Washington Post ABC NBC etc etc.

    And who exactly made those claims? If those claims were ever made?

    WSS

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I'd say FoxNews and Breitbart, two of the top conservative news sources, aren't exactly "fringe" (or at least to their readers, I guess.)

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I'm kinda curious if your hick cintucki ass ever served in the military, voted or contributed to society you fucking piece of excrement.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm kinda curious if your hick cintucki ass ever served in the military, voted or contributed to society you fucking piece of excrement.

    Arent u taking up precious VA funds that would be better served going to guys that actually saw rounds come their way?

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm kinda curious if your hick cintucki ass ever served in the military, voted or contributed to society you fucking piece of excrement.

    Arent u taking up precious VA funds that would be better served going to guys that actually saw rounds come their way?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Arent u taking up precious VA funds that would be better served going to guys that actually saw rounds come their way?

    Civilians should be seen and not heard fat boy.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Arent u taking up precious VA funds that would be better served going to guys that actually saw rounds come their way?

    Civilians should be seen and not heard fat boy.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Civilians should be seen and not heard fat boy.

    Dude, you're not that different from a civilian at all: the only difference between you and a civilian worker is that after scrubbing shitters for years, you got VA benefits...

  • Trump needs to push the issue next debate.

    Is being against marijuana legalization cool?,

    Trump could win so easily if he actually debates correctly. Hillary is a fucked up cunt who will tell half truths and not get challenged

  • @westside-steve said:

    Headlines? Where? Silly websites that only silly people read or the New York Times Washington Post ABC NBC etc etc.

    And who exactly made those claims? If those claims were ever made?

    WSS

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I'd say FoxNews and Breitbart, two of the top conservative news sources, aren't exactly "fringe" (or at least to their readers, I guess.)

    @jbluhm86 said:

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I'd say FoxNews and Breitbart, two of the top conservative news sources, aren't exactly "fringe" (or at least to their readers, I guess.)

    Sorry I thought you said Trump accused Ted's father of Killing Kennedy? He pointed out that he was hanging out with LHO in the same room which he was right?

    And did he call his wife ugly after Ted's Super PAC ran a shitty about his wife just compare the two?

    Sounds like you're making this shit up to me amigo.

    WSS

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    I'm kinda curious myself on how headlines about Ted Cruz's wife being ugly, Cruz's father killing Kennedy, Hillary having Parkinson's, Bill Clinton paying that Flowers lady $200 for an abortion, etc...have to do with government policy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I'd say FoxNews and Breitbart, two of the top conservative news sources, aren't exactly "fringe" (or at least to their readers, I guess.)

    Sorry I thought you said Trump accused Ted's father of Killing Kennedy? He pointed out that he was hanging out with LHO in the same room which he was right?

    And did he call his wife ugly after Ted's Super PAC ran a shitty about his wife just compare the two?

    Sounds like you're making this shit up to me amigo.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Sorry I thought you said Trump accused Ted's father of Killing Kennedy? He pointed out that he was hanging out with same room which she was right?...

    I think you're probably playing semantics at this point, but allow me to clarify. Here is what Trump said:

    "His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald being, you know, shot. I mean the whole thing is ridiculous. What is this, right, prior to his being shot? And nobody even brings it up...What was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting? It’s horrible."

    So, did he outright say that Raphael Cruz killed Kennedy? No. But, he was insinuating such, and I believe the vast majority of people interpreted him as saying such. Perhaps I would have been better served to have written "insinuated" instead, but I think that you understood the jist to begin with. Regardless, the conservative media ran with it, and it became a big talking point during the run up to the Indiana primary, instead of Trump and Cruz's actual polices.

    ...And did he call his wife ugly after Ted's Super PAC ran a shitty about his wife just compare the two? Sounds like you're making this shit up to me amigo.

    WSS

    True, but that isn't what we were originally arguing about. You originally stated, if I read you correctly, your disappointment that "not one of the news cycle eruptions from the Democrats and their Partners in the MSM have had anything to do with policies qualifications positions..." - a point that I have no problem conceding, since I too am disappointed in the same thing. But, I then pointed out that Trump pretty much does the same thing - making outlandish claims and vitriolic attacks against his Republican opponents and Clinton - and spends almost zero time on actual policy; and the conservative media runs with it.

    So, I don't really understand your obstinacy on this issue - you're usually pretty level headed and rational, even when you don't agree with other poster's point's of view. But I don't think you can deny that the game of attack politics over actual policy is being played extensively by both Trump and Clinton, and that both liberal and conservative media outlets are running with it. They're in it for the click-bait at this point.