Cheapshot blindside helmet to helmet has Poyer still in hospital
-
"Excuse me good man, may I block you?"
Again, to repeat myself here it's not like I don't get this sentiment and even agree with this by in large. All I'm saying is that exact play is, IMO anyway, the most dangerous play in football. If the NFL is really practicing what they preach in terms of player safety, this is the type of thing that needs to be reviewed further.
-
"Excuse me good man, may I block you?"
Again, to repeat myself here it's not like I don't get this sentiment and even agree with this by in large. All I'm saying is that exact play is, IMO anyway, the most dangerous play in football. If the NFL is really practicing what they preach in terms of player safety, this is the type of thing that needs to be reviewed further.
Again, to repeat myself here it's not like I don't get this sentiment and even agree with this by in large. All I'm saying is that exact play is, IMO anyway, the most dangerous play in football. If the NFL is really practicing what they preach in terms of player safety, this is the type of thing that needs to be reviewed further.
Yep. Nobody wants to see no-contact football, but you definitely don't want to see the types on injury that can occur with much greater frequency on this type of play. Freak injuries happen all the time, but on a "decleater" hit like this, it's kinda predictable that there could well be injury. It's not like two guys going at each other, it's an out of nowhere type of hit, from the point of view of the blind-sided player.
Bottom line, it's the type of hit the NFL will probably be looking to eliminate.
On a related note, I was reading the other day about how the NFL was hoping to reduce the number of kick returns by moving the touch-back to 25 yard line, but it's actually having the opposite effect - teams are kicking it to the 5 yard line, and hoping they get there to cover before it goes in the end zone, or can make a play before the 25. Don't be shocked to see it moved back to the 20 next year.
-
bs, Tiam. Watch it in slow motion, he led with his helmet into Poyer's facemask.
The fact that he also hit him with his shoulder doesn't negate the helmet to helmet hit.
The shoulder block is part of the game, but the blindside was completely unnecessary.
It is illegal. The unnecessary part makes it a cheapshot, with the helmet to helmet contact.
bs, Tiam. Watch it in slow motion, he led with his helmet into Poyer's facemask.
The fact that he also hit him with his shoulder doesn't negate the helmet to helmet hit.
The shoulder block is part of the game, but the blindside was completely unnecessary.
It is illegal. The unnecessary part makes it a cheapshot, with the helmet to helmet contact.
And this is my question....seeing the reviews, yes, he hit him up high in the head and shoulders.
Then how is it that it is a lacerated kidney that puts him on IR? The kidneys are a bit of a way away from the head and shoulders?
Curiouser and curiouser.
-
I thought the hit was a good football play, yes sad that poyer got injured, however its not flag football injuries happened. When I played football I loved special teams because of the opportunity to clean some peoples clocks.
I thought the hit was a good football play, yes sad that poyer got injured, however its not flag football injuries happened. When I played football I loved special teams because of the opportunity to clean some peoples clocks.
That's fun to do until the favor gets returned. I can safely say in all the days playing football I never hurt more when I got my clock cleaned by a hit I never saw coming. I literally thought I might be dying and frankly there was nothing I could have done differently other than not going for the tackle on the returner. That's not a joke either, it was genuinely terrifying for about 5 minutes
-
Agreed in this day of concussion awareness I often wonder how many I have received playing football 25 years ago. I once went to the wrong sideline and sat on the bench after one of those hits you are referring to. (yet back in the game a couple plays later)
Agreed in this day of concussion awareness I often wonder how many I have received playing football 25 years ago. I once went to the wrong sideline and sat on the bench after one of those hits you are referring to. (yet back in the game a couple plays later)
Indeed. I didn't realize it at the time, but I was so fortunate to have a coaching group that was "ahead of the times" on this stuff. We actually had a doctor on the sidelines who was the father of one of the guys on the team. I think that really made a difference in not sending guys out there who obviously weren't in good shape. Another factor was that our team was awful and it wasn't like having the good players out there meant winning or losing the state championship. I definitely after that hit had a concussion along with a slightly dislocated jaw. Thank God the coaches didn't let me go back in (in fact took my helmet away).
Anyway, moral of the story is even at that level can attest to how lethal that hit can be. That's part of the game, but if safety really is the priority it's time to seriously review the process.
-
Football players have been told since the day they started playing, that they always need to "have their head on a swivel" - especially during a change of possession, as well as large changes of direction.
Yes, it was a violent, brutal hit, and I feel really bad for Jordan as I don't want to see any player get hurt, but he needs to take some of the responsibility for the hit, and had he of been more aware, he would've seen it coming and been able to protect himself.
Was it a foul in today's football? Yea I believe it was and I think the refs got it right, but I think it was nowhere near a cheap shot.
-
bs, Tiam. Watch it in slow motion, he led with his helmet into Poyer's facemask.
The fact that he also hit him with his shoulder doesn't negate the helmet to helmet hit.
The shoulder block is part of the game, but the blindside was completely unnecessary.
It is illegal. The unnecessary part makes it a cheapshot, with the helmet to helmet contact.
And this is my question....seeing the reviews, yes, he hit him up high in the head and shoulders.
Then how is it that it is a lacerated kidney that puts him on IR? The kidneys are a bit of a way away from the head and shoulders?
Curiouser and curiouser.
And this is my question....seeing the reviews, yes, he hit him up high in the head and shoulders.
Then how is it that it is a lacerated kidney that puts him on IR? The kidneys are a bit of a way away from the head and shoulders?
Curiouser and curiouser.
surely you jest. all it takes is a hit to the head, and a nerve pinch in the spine, all the way down to the vertebre that has to do with
the kidneys function.. and the .
See? I paid you back.
The lacerated kidney is from a blindside blow to the kindneys. That's dangerous. That is why is was called.
and probably fined about 24,300 bucks. And Andrews bragged about it, which shows he intentionally nailed him
illegally. Completely unnecessary.
-
Football players have been told since the day they started playing, that they always need to "have their head on a swivel" - especially during a change of possession, as well as large changes of direction.
Yes, it was a violent, brutal hit, and I feel really bad for Jordan as I don't want to see any player get hurt, but he needs to take some of the responsibility for the hit, and had he of been more aware, he would've seen it coming and been able to protect himself.
Was it a foul in today's football? Yea I believe it was and I think the refs got it right, but I think it was nowhere near a cheap shot.
Football players have been told since the day they started playing, that they always need to "have their head on a swivel" - especially during a change of possession, as well as large changes of direction.
Yes, it was a violent, brutal hit, and I feel really bad for Jordan as I don't want to see any player get hurt, but he needs to take some of the responsibility for the hit, and had he of been more aware, he would've seen it coming and been able to protect himself.
Was it a foul in today's football? Yea I believe it was and I think the refs got it right, but I think it was nowhere near a cheap shot.
They teach you that sure, but I can promise you that implementing that line of thinking in-game speed wise is next to impossible. It's the same thing with tackling and helmet-to-helmet, we're talking split seconds here. I don't see how you can possibly say he should take responsibility for the hit because it just doesn't work how you're taught. Would you rather him not go full speed and not make the play? Again, from personal experience there's literally no way to implement "having your head on a swivel" unless you want the returner to be dancing in the endzone. Shit doesn't work that way even though they teach you it should.
We're agreeing with each other-all I'm saying is that the NFL really holds that safety mantra high will change this type of hit.
-
Easy to talk shit against a rule when you aren't the one getting destroyed out there.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
And this is my question....seeing the reviews, yes, he hit him up high in the head and shoulders.
Then how is it that it is a lacerated kidney that puts him on IR? The kidneys are a bit of a way away from the head and shoulders?
Curiouser and curiouser.
surely you jest. all it takes is a hit to the head, and a nerve pinch in the spine, all the way down to the vertebre that has to do with
the kidneys function.. and the .
See? I paid you back.
The lacerated kidney is from a blindside blow to the kindneys. That's dangerous. That is why is was called.
and probably fined about 24,300 bucks. And Andrews bragged about it, which shows he intentionally nailed him
illegally. Completely unnecessary.
The lacerated kidney is from a blindside blow to the kindneys. That's dangerous. That is why is was called.and probably fined about 24,300 bucks. And Andrews bragged about it, which shows he intentionally nailed him illegally. Completely unnecessary.
So now he hit Poyer in the head and kidney? Reminds of a schoolkid joke where while pointing to your head the punchline was, "I used my kidney."
Since you're defending the NFL, cal, I invite you to describe the substitute block you'd allow...
-
Easy to talk shit against a rule when you aren't the one getting destroyed out there.
Been hit a couple times like that on PR. Wasn't making 6+ figures either.
-
Easy to talk shit against a rule when you aren't the one getting destroyed out there.
Been hit a couple times like that on PR. Wasn't making 6+ figures either.
Been hit a couple times like that on PR. Wasn't making 6+ figures either.
You did not happen to play for Lakewood did you?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
they were penalized 15 yards. That means it was not a legal hit.
Poyer has been released from the hospital, and is upset that andrews
was bragging on his hit, and put the video up on twitter.
Not an accident, unnecessary, illegal. was penalized.
Jordan Poyer suffers lacerated kidney in Cleveland Browns loss, will ...www.oregonlive.com/nfl/.../jordan_poyer_suffers_lacer...2 days ago - Andrews was flagged and penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct on the blindside hit. The hit left Poyer bent over on the grass for a few minutes before he was able to walk to the Browns sideline. ... Regional NFL Teams.OregonLive.comAntonio Andrews Posts Video Of Big Hit That Sent Jordan Poyer To ...brobible.com/sports/article/titans-antonio-andrews-hit-jordan-poyer/6 hours ago - The Most Devastating NFL Fantasy Injuries This Season ... Man,Andrews is a savage for posting a video of that hit while Poyer was still in the ...6 hours ago - The Most Devastating NFL Fantasy Injuries This Season ... Man,Andrews is a savage for posting a video of that hit while Poyer was still in the hospital ...surely you jest. all it takes is a hit to the head, and a nerve pinch in the spine, all the way down to the vertebre that has to do with
the kidneys function.. and the .
See? I paid you back.
The lacerated kidney is from a blindside blow to the kindneys. That's dangerous. That is why is was called.
and probably fined about 24,300 bucks. And Andrews bragged about it, which shows he intentionally nailed him
illegally. Completely unnecessary.
The guy hit him so hard it ruptured a kidney, not from a direct blow to the back.
Cal we can debate about if there was intent to injure on that play. One thing that can't be debated is Andrews has zero class putting that up on Instagram and bragging about it. He won't think it's so funny if he gets a knee blown out or a leg broken and the guy who does it posts it to You Tube. What goes around comes around. MHO is he owes Poyer an apology.
-
6 hours ago - The Most Devastating NFL Fantasy Injuries This Season ... Man,Andrews is a savage for posting a video of that hit while Poyer was still in the hospital ...
surely you jest. all it takes is a hit to the head, and a nerve pinch in the spine, all the way down to the vertebre that has to do with
the kidneys function.. and the .
See? I paid you back.
The lacerated kidney is from a blindside blow to the kindneys. That's dangerous. That is why is was called.
and probably fined about 24,300 bucks. And Andrews bragged about it, which shows he intentionally nailed him
illegally. Completely unnecessary.
The guy hit him so hard it ruptured a kidney, not from a direct blow to the back.
Cal we can debate about if there was intent to injure on that play. One thing that can't be debated is Andrews has zero class putting that up on Instagram and bragging about it. He won't think it's so funny if he gets a knee blown out or a leg broken and the guy who does it posts it to You Tube. What goes around comes around. MHO is he owes Poyer an apology.
-
And this is my question....seeing the reviews, yes, he hit him up high in the head and shoulders.
Then how is it that it is a lacerated kidney that puts him on IR? The kidneys are a bit of a way away from the head and shoulders?
Curiouser and curiouser.
surely you jest. all it takes is a hit to the head, and a nerve pinch in the spine, all the way down to the vertebre that has to do with
the kidneys function.. and the .
See? I paid you back.
The lacerated kidney is from a blindside blow to the kindneys. That's dangerous. That is why is was called.
and probably fined about 24,300 bucks. And Andrews bragged about it, which shows he intentionally nailed him
illegally. Completely unnecessary.
surely you jest. all it takes is a hit to the head, and a nerve pinch in the spine, all the way down to the vertebre that has to do with
the kidneys function.. and the .
See? I paid you back.
The lacerated kidney is from a blindside blow to the kindneys. That's dangerous. That is why is was called.
and probably fined about 24,300 bucks. And Andrews bragged about it, which shows he intentionally nailed him
illegally. Completely unnecessary.
I guess I didn't see the hit to the kidneys in the replays. I was concentrating on the hit to the head.
-
they were penalized 15 yards. That means it was not a legal hit.
Poyer has been released from the hospital, and is upset that andrews
was bragging on his hit, and put the video up on twitter.
Not an accident, unnecessary, illegal. was penalized.
Jordan Poyer suffers lacerated kidney in Cleveland Browns loss, will ...www.oregonlive.com/nfl/.../jordan_poyer_suffers_lacer...2 days ago - Andrews was flagged and penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct on the blindside hit. The hit left Poyer bent over on the grass for a few minutes before he was able to walk to the Browns sideline. ... Regional NFL Teams.OregonLive.comAntonio Andrews Posts Video Of Big Hit That Sent Jordan Poyer To ...brobible.com/sports/article/titans-antonio-andrews-hit-jordan-poyer/6 hours ago - The Most Devastating NFL Fantasy Injuries This Season ... Man,Andrews is a savage for posting a video of that hit while Poyer was still in the ...brobible.com/sports/article/titans-antonio-andrews-hit-jordan-poyer/Cal your answer lies in your own post & Poyer's last tweet..Jordan has no prob with hit, it's football,,,BUT... "Don't be a ASS & have some class" has always been a Poyer's Pride..
-
Andrews is gonna have a target on his back
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login