I'm being entertained
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many in ancient rome thought the circus maximus was entertaining....
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many in ancient rome thought the circus maximus was entertaining....
I'm so excited watching them I could fucking shit.
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I'm so excited watching them I could fucking shit.
What horrible physiology you have.
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I would never pay for the Sunday ticket. If you have the internet and have a little bit of smarts you can stream games, Vipbox.nu or stream 2 watch or hell just google Redit Nfl streams and there you have it. Just close out the adds and NOW you can even watch live games on youtube if you know where to look. It's a brand new world friends. Oh and Fuck Pittsburgh
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I would never pay for the Sunday ticket. If you have the internet and have a little bit of smarts you can stream games, Vipbox.nu or stream 2 watch or hell just google Redit Nfl streams and there you have it. Just close out the adds and NOW you can even watch live games on youtube if you know where to look. It's a brand new world friends. Oh and Fuck Pittsburgh
I would never pay for the Sunday ticket. If you have the internet and have a little bit of smarts you can stream games, Vipbox.nu or stream 2 watch or hell just google Redit Nfl streams and there you have it. Just close out the adds and NOW you can even watch live games on youtube if you know where to look. It's a brand new world friends. Oh and Fuck Pittsburgh
Yep, I have a Firestick and it's great.
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Injuries aside, the O just needs to upgrade the o-line and maybe add one more WR (unless one of our young players turn into one). On the D, pass rush and secondary are needed upgrades. QB is an obvious first round selection but Cody is showing us something with his skills. So there is lots to do and plenty to improve - including play calling and time management. But, again, look at the effort out there. The well executed plays. Red Zone effecieny, running game, and just the effort and desire to win. It's refreshing and entertaining (as I said). Let's hope it's the start of a continual improvement plan that takes us to the playoffs in the coming years.
You know who I feel bad for? Not the Browns. How about the Jets, Panthers, Bears, 49ers. All are 1-5 and not in a massive rebuild. I'll soon be adding the Dolphins, Chargers, and Colts to that list. And if the Browns beat the Bengals ...
Injuries aside, the O just needs to upgrade the o-line and maybe add one more WR (unless one of our young players turn into one). On the D, pass rush and secondary are needed upgrades. QB is an obvious first round selection but Cody is showing us something with his skills
Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
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And that is where we disagree. I think we are a couple of really great defensive pass rushers away from having a defense that will give us many more offensive opportunities a game. Good playoff teams all seem to have that in common. Less time to throw on us makes our defensive backfield ions better. There are enough good CB's and S's that we can get all the D players this team needs in those 4 picks (if we leave it the fuck alone).
PS-do you think Denver would have done anything last year without Miller and Ware living in other people's back yards?
And that is where we disagree. I think we are a couple of really great defensive pass rushers away from having a defense that will give us many more offensive opportunities a game. Good playoff teams all seem to have that in common. Less time to throw on us makes our defensive backfield ions better. There are enough good CB's and S's that we can get all the D players this team needs in those 4 picks (if we leave it the fuck alone).
PS-do you think Denver would have done anything last year without Miller and Ware living in other people's back yards?
DING, DING, DING!...We have a WINNER!
Well stated.
Mike
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Injuries aside, the O just needs to upgrade the o-line and maybe add one more WR (unless one of our young players turn into one). On the D, pass rush and secondary are needed upgrades. QB is an obvious first round selection but Cody is showing us something with his skills
Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
Right now MHO is the #1 need is a stud pass rusher. (Ogbah has been invisible, and Nassib has been erratic) A decent CB would help as Haden can't seem to stay healthy. OL? I hope Reiter comes back 100% healthy, because Erving is a disaster. We do need some quality depth there. Will we ever see Shon Coleman? We have to start thinking about a replacement for JT down the road- he can't play at this level forever. I wouldn't be upset if we use the first 4 picks on D, as safety is pretty weak too. The wild card is if Hue and the Browns see enough of Kessler to roll with him long term. In that scenario, it's the stud pass rusher. If not QB at the top will happen.
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Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
Right now MHO is the #1 need is a stud pass rusher. (Ogbah has been invisible, and Nassib has been erratic) A decent CB would help as Haden can't seem to stay healthy. OL? I hope Reiter comes back 100% healthy, because Erving is a disaster. We do need some quality depth there. Will we ever see Shon Coleman? We have to start thinking about a replacement for JT down the road- he can't play at this level forever. I wouldn't be upset if we use the first 4 picks on D, as safety is pretty weak too. The wild card is if Hue and the Browns see enough of Kessler to roll with him long term. In that scenario, it's the stud pass rusher. If not QB at the top will happen.
Right now MHO is the #1 need is a stud pass rusher. (Ogbah has been invisible, and Nassib has been erratic) A decent CB would help as Haden can't seem to stay healthy. OL? I hope Reiter comes back 100% healthy, because Erving is a disaster. We do need some quality depth there. Will we ever see Shon Coleman? We have to start thinking about a replacement for JT down the road- he can't play at this level forever. I wouldn't be upset if we use the first 4 picks on D, as safety is pretty weak too. The wild card is if Hue and the Browns see enough of Kessler to roll with him long term. In that scenario, it's the stud pass rusher. If not QB at the top will happen.
I think Nassib and Ogbah will be ok.. But. I'll concur everywhere else..
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Injuries aside, the O just needs to upgrade the o-line and maybe add one more WR (unless one of our young players turn into one). On the D, pass rush and secondary are needed upgrades. QB is an obvious first round selection but Cody is showing us something with his skills
Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
I can't argue with your statement. Perhaps some of the players already on the team at QB, Pass Rush, and OL will develop but otherwise/presently - it's a glaring need on Sunday's - don't you think?
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Injuries aside, the O just needs to upgrade the o-line and maybe add one more WR (unless one of our young players turn into one). On the D, pass rush and secondary are needed upgrades. QB is an obvious first round selection but Cody is showing us something with his skills
Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
Those 10 players we drafted though - not really all top prospects, were they? So it's natural that not all have developed in to immediate stars in the NFL. Given time, some more might, other probably never will.
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another NFL game in london today hey chris? how many are slated for this year, four?
i see the NFL arm slowly reaching it's way into having 8 games a year there in the near future.
anyhoo........back to this thread.
yes we need defensive help in the areas all have mentioned but we also need to think 2-4 years down the road in drafting and grooming a center and JT's replacement at left guard. i like kessler (at least he's a shining point from a hohum draft last year} but anyone we stick behind our OL will get crushed and our running game will continue to be non-existent if we don't address the situation with first round blue-chip talent. JT was number one pick and it was well deserved. players like that come at a high price and the browns need to belly up and throw in the dough no matter what direction they choose to go.
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pssst... JT is our left tackle...
Not sure how "ho-hum" our 2017 draft will turn out to be.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
another NFL game in london today hey chris? how many are slated for this year, four?
i see the NFL arm slowly reaching it's way into having 8 games a year there in the near future.
anyhoo........back to this thread.
yes we need defensive help in the areas all have mentioned but we also need to think 2-4 years down the road in drafting and grooming a center and JT's replacement at left guard. i like kessler (at least he's a shining point from a hohum draft last year} but anyone we stick behind our OL will get crushed and our running game will continue to be non-existent if we don't address the situation with first round blue-chip talent. JT was number one pick and it was well deserved. players like that come at a high price and the browns need to belly up and throw in the dough no matter what direction they choose to go.
another NFL game in london today hey chris? how many are slated for this year, four?
i see the NFL arm slowly reaching it's way into having 8 games a year there in the near future.
anyhoo........back to this thread.
yes we need defensive help in the areas all have mentioned but we also need to think 2-4 years down the road in drafting and grooming a center and JT's replacement at left guard. i like kessler (at least he's a shining point from a hohum draft last year} but anyone we stick behind our OL will get crushed and our running game will continue to be non-existent if we don't address the situation with first round blue-chip talent. JT was number one pick and it was well deserved. players like that come at a high price and the browns need to belly up and throw in the dough no matter what direction they choose to go.
Three this year. It's scheduled to go up to four in a couple of years. They're feeling their way in to having eight, to see if the support can be maintained throughout a full season, I think.
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pssst... JT is our left tackle...
Not sure how "ho-hum" our 2017 draft will turn out to be.
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Injuries aside, the O just needs to upgrade the o-line and maybe add one more WR (unless one of our young players turn into one). On the D, pass rush and secondary are needed upgrades. QB is an obvious first round selection but Cody is showing us something with his skills
Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
Ok....so, next year we need to draft WR .....OL.....and Pass rushers? first.....plus a QB at the top.....??????
Yet...last year our first 7 picks were 2 WR, 1 OL, 3 pass rushers and a QB....?
NICE!
so....we needed a WR and drafted 4....we needed a couple OL and drafted a couple.......we needed a QB and drafted 1 and signed 1......we needed OLB/edge rushers and drafted 3 and signed 3(or more).....
And these are all still considered our primary need positions?......no opinion, just asking......cause my gears are grinding right now...
The Browns FO will get it right this time they promise
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tackle schmackle. guard schmaurd.
u meant what i knew.
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Ok - as the starter of this thread - I will say that today's game was NOT entertaining! Our relative lack of talent was obvious (as always) and not made up for with the fight in the Dawg. For the first time this season, the new Browns looked like the old Browns. The defensive front seven which I have defended were pushed aside like bowling pins. If I'm the Browns, next year, we need a draft and a lot of free agents to build a competitive team.
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