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DESPICABLE: Nearly 10,000 soldiers FORCED to repay decade old bonuses

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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    it wasn't their fault. What a clusterfook. under obaMao's regime, that is how it works.

    grab money from those who have it, and lavish it on those who don't.

    for dem votes. The overpayment? was a mistake, but it wasn't the fault of the

    veterans.

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      Again, its californias state legislure not obama. But if u want the feferal govt to dictate minutia affairs of the states like that.....be careful what u wish for.

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        you should be careful of how you shove your foot into your mouth.

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        Short answer is that the state pays when activated by the state governor for state purposes, in accordance with Title 32 of the US Code, while the fed pays when activated by the POTUS for federal purposes, in accordance with Title 10 of the US Code.

        Of course, as you noted, there are many baroque procedures to confuse things, the biggest one that the fed will sometimes transfer $$ to the states for state active duty, because NG on state duty can do things (law enforcement activities) that they can't do once federalized.
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        Over 95% of day to day National Guard budgets are Federal. States only pay a small portion for facilities; and also pay for Guardsmen activated for a State-level emergency. All equipment, training fuel, ammunition, etc; all regular pay, is federal; obviously all mobilization costs are federal. Most of this is Title 32, not sure if MOB costs are Title 10 or not.
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        • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          Cleve - once again, thank you for emotionally knee jerking - it surely has made everybody's day.

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            Why not thank the soldiers for their service and their sacrifice and say we made the mistake and will waive it...thanks again for your service...Uncle Sam

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              the contract to re-enlist for a bonus is a legally binding contract. If the amounts were in error,

              it isn't the soldier's fault. That is either fraud on the pentagon officer's fault, or somebody

              elses...or just incompetence. The fault in on the high officials.

              The other problem here, is that the veterans have been very, very,very poorly taken care of....

              and obaMao is no fan of our military.. all dirtbag marxist obaMao would have to do, is exec order

              a no-fault for the veterans who are being hounded by the pentagon and the lefty state of California.

              He is SUPPOSED to be a COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. Now, does that mean he deliberately let this happen,

              and agrees with all those thousands of veterans remortgaging their homes, etc etc etc, to try to pay that money back?

              When it was the bonus that enticed them to re-enlist in the first place?

              This is the worst stink from Washington DC in history, all things included into one swamp.

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                I stand corrected, it is the pentagon pushing this. Tje california national guard are saying they have no choice in the matter but say if congress waives these debts thats that. Wow, i mean wtf? I agree if obama doesnt step in here and do one of his midnight exec orders this is bullshit ad fuck kim

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                  B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                  This isn't Monopoly when Banks, Companies and the Government overpay you don't get to keep it.

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                    This isn't Monopoly when Banks, Companies and the Government overpay you don't get to keep it.

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                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                    @baconhound said:

                    This isn't Monopoly when Banks, Companies and the Government overpay you don't get to keep it.

                    But 10-15 years later?

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                      This isn't Monopoly when Banks, Companies and the Government overpay you don't get to keep it.

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      @baconhound said:

                      This isn't Monopoly when Banks, Companies and the Government overpay you don't get to keep it.

                      Banks, companies and the feds don't fight overseas fuck face maggot.

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                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                        I mean it's fucked up that they get letters 10+ years later that demand not only what they received but also interest.

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                          I mean it's fucked up that they get letters 10+ years later that demand not only what they received but also interest.

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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          @bbedward said:

                          I mean it's fucked up that they get letters 10+ years later that demand not only what they received but also interest.

                          I think thats only if they refused to pay it initially. They said you have a certain grace period to repay but then you'll get intetest. Horseshit strongarm tbh

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                            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                            Idk who could just pay an unexpected bill for $20,000

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                              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                              This should tell you what a crappy job the government is actually doing when they're just now figuring out they overpaid a ton of people a decade ago.

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                Be less emotional Cleve. Be rational and Blake everything bad on Obama

                                This situation is messed up though. Hopefully it gets resolved.

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  was probably going to lose higgardly votes...so Carter stepped in and suspended it.

                                  Thank goodness, except wait til higgardly might possibly be "president"

                                  http://patriotoutdoornews.com/17324/breaking-carter-suspends-pentagons-demand-cash-bonuses-paid-california-soldiers

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                                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                    Im glad they called this one back. Theres bankers running around that had a hand in nearly shitcanning our economy and walked with 10's of millions, some with 100's. But lets go after a few thousand follars from veterans. Ficking merica

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                                      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                      What about the people that refinanced their home to pay it, will they get a refund?

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                                        I stand corrected, it is the pentagon pushing this. Tje california national guard are saying they have no choice in the matter but say if congress waives these debts thats that. Wow, i mean wtf? I agree if obama doesnt step in here and do one of his midnight exec orders this is bullshit ad fuck kim

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                                        F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        I stand corrected, it is the pentagon pushing this. Tje california national guard are saying they have no choice in the matter but say if congress waives these debts thats that. Wow, i mean wtf? I agree if obama doesnt step in here and do one of his midnight exec orders this is bullshit ad fuck kim

                                        on the contrary, this is very much in obamas wheelhouse of overlooking and ignoring the servicemen and women....

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                                          F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                          in fact the chicago thug probably had ben rhodes fire off a memo to the underlings at the pentagon calling for this bonus recall

                                          wasnt til ashtray carter found out his authority was challenged and he called an audible...... good on him at least

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