Are You Happy with the Draft Picks So far ?
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I think if you add in the 3 players we got in the first trade:
S Abrams - we tried to sign this guy but the Jets matched it. Good pickup
DE Coleman - solid player...gives us nice depth at DE, and he is a TRUE DE!!!
QB Ratliff - this means we can afford to trade BQ or DA if we want to for picks this year AND next.
Keep in mind this is a long haul...not a sprint. We have been drafting for a sprint for WAY too long.
Abrams is merely a plug for a year and Coleman is a back up DE. Nice dpeth but that's it.
I guess this goofy FO felt we must've met ALL our defensive needs with this trade because the next three picks are offense.
But the icing on the cake...Let's pass on Maualuga and instead draft a LB that is a projected 4th to 6 rounder at #52 overall!!
My death watch for this bunch of morons has already started. I didn't like hiring Mangini when it happened and this just confirmed why I felt that way.
Abrams is merely a plug for a year and Coleman is a back up DE. Nice dpeth but that's it.
I guess this goofy FO felt we must've met ALL our defensive needs with this trade because the next three pick are offense.
But the icing on the cake...Let's pass on Maualuga and instead draft a LB that is a projected 4th to 6 rounder at #52 overall!!
My death watch for this bunch of morons has already started. I didn't like hiring Mangini when it happened and this just confirmed why I felt that way.
Scouts Inc has Coleman ranked at 67, which is an average STARTER....and is best suited as a 5 technique (which he will play here).
As for Maualuga...I get the feeling that we may be going for Brinkley...or we might actually think that Beau Bell is just as good if not better than Rey Rey. Don't forget...Bell is still on this team and should be healthy this year.
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1 21 (21) A. Mack OT California
I think he'll struggle against the bigger DTs. I mean really struggle. Super duper smart, but not as brutish as I would like.
Did not work out at the combine due to an ankle sprain.
2 4 (36) B. Robiskie WR Ohio St
Solid pick for a solid player.
Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.59 seconds
Vertical Jump : 37.5 inches
3 Cone Drill : 6.72 seconds
20 Yard Shuttle : 4.19 seconds
2 18 (50) M. Massaquoi WR Georgia
Too many...uhm..."concentration issues." BE Part II?
Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.66 seconds
Vertical Jump : 36.5 inches
Broad Jump : 127.0 inches
2 20 (52) D. Veikune DE Hawaii
Might surprise. Fairly fluid for a DE/OLB convert. Has the strength needed to play SOLB. High motor power rusher.
Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.87 seconds
Bench Press : 35.0 reps
Vertical Jump : 33.0 inches
Broad Jump : 110.0 inches
3 Cone Drill : 7.2 seconds
20 Yard Shuttle : 4.46 second
2 20 (52) D. Veikune DE Hawaii
Might surprise. Fairly fluid for a DE/OLB convert. Has the strength needed to play SOLB. High motor power rusher.
Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.87 seconds
Bench Press : 35.0 reps
Vertical Jump : 33.0 inches
Broad Jump : 110.0 inches
3 Cone Drill : 7.2 seconds
20 Yard Shuttle : 4.46 second
He has to be brought in to play the middle. His combine 40 was near the 4.90 range. Put him on the outside and he'll get burned in coverage all day long.
freakin' unbelievable.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin" -
I liked the trade down and getting 3 players from the Jets.
Mack with the 1st pick wasn't a pretty one but if he's able to play right away and help it's all good.
Robiskie looks to be a solid pick at a need position, Massaquoi a so so pick.
Don't know jack about Veikune but hoping Mankok knows something about him that I don't.
I was dissappointed in not picking LeShon McCoy at RB though.
I'll give the Browns a B- grade for the first day.
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2 20 (52) D. Veikune DE Hawaii
Might surprise. Fairly fluid for a DE/OLB convert. Has the strength needed to play SOLB. High motor power rusher.
Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.87 seconds
Bench Press : 35.0 reps
Vertical Jump : 33.0 inches
Broad Jump : 110.0 inches
3 Cone Drill : 7.2 seconds
20 Yard Shuttle : 4.46 second
He has to be brought in to play the middle. His combine 40 was near the 4.90 range. Put him on the outside and he'll get burned in coverage all day long.
freakin' unbelievable.
He has to be brought in to play the middle. His combine 40 was near the 4.90 range. Put him on the outside and he'll get burned in coverage all day long.
freakin' unbelievable.
When espn showed his stats and i saw that 40 time i thought the same thing. Espn is stupid sometimes to think he will play outside linebacker. He would get killed if he is put into coverage against the likes of Witten or Winslow.
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He has to be brought in to play the middle. His combine 40 was near the 4.90 range. Put him on the outside and he'll get burned in coverage all day long.
freakin' unbelievable.
When espn showed his stats and i saw that 40 time i thought the same thing. Espn is stupid sometimes to think he will play outside linebacker. He would get killed if he is put into coverage against the likes of Witten or Winslow.
When espn showed his stats and i saw that 40 time i thought the same thing. Espn is stupid sometimes to think he will play outside linebacker. He would get killed if he is put into coverage against the likes of Witten or Winslow.
OLB is not usually the first guy to cover a TE, let alone the likes of a Witten or a Winslow. They get picked up by a LB or a saftey.
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I'm not sure what's wrong with getting 7 players out of one day, and 3 of them with NFL experience. Our need is bodies, not missing links. I would have liked to have Rey M, but a TON of teams passed on him over and over again, so we had a lot of company there.
Also, I like the way they kept Quinn, drafted a center to improve protection, and then some weapons to throw to.
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
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Here's video of Veikune's combine workout.
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2 20 (52) D. Veikune DE Hawaii
Might surprise. Fairly fluid for a DE/OLB convert. Has the strength needed to play SOLB. High motor power rusher.
Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.87 seconds
Bench Press : 35.0 reps
Vertical Jump : 33.0 inches
Broad Jump : 110.0 inches
3 Cone Drill : 7.2 seconds
20 Yard Shuttle : 4.46 second
He has to be brought in to play the middle. His combine 40 was near the 4.90 range. Put him on the outside and he'll get burned in coverage all day long.
freakin' unbelievable.
He has to be brought in to play the middle. His combine 40 was near the 4.90 range. Put him on the outside and he'll get burned in coverage all day long.
freakin' unbelievable.
James Harrison's 40 time is 5.25.
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Abrams is merely a plug for a year and Coleman is a back up DE. Nice dpeth but that's it.
I guess this goofy FO felt we must've met ALL our defensive needs with this trade because the next three pick are offense.
But the icing on the cake...Let's pass on Maualuga and instead draft a LB that is a projected 4th to 6 rounder at #52 overall!!
My death watch for this bunch of morons has already started. I didn't like hiring Mangini when it happened and this just confirmed why I felt that way.
Scouts Inc has Coleman ranked at 67, which is an average STARTER....and is best suited as a 5 technique (which he will play here).
As for Maualuga...I get the feeling that we may be going for Brinkley...or we might actually think that Beau Bell is just as good if not better than Rey Rey. Don't forget...Bell is still on this team and should be healthy this year.
Scouts Inc has Coleman ranked at 67, which is an average STARTER....and is best suited as a 5 technique (which he will play here).
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He's 30 years old and probably slowing a great deal. Plus I think the Browns take a huge cap hit with him. I don't know the details behind his contract but I know he signed a big one after his one and only good season. The 2007 season.
There is no long term vision when they acquired Coleman. He like Elam are short term plugs.
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i think we have a decent draft we got a de,s,qb,c first round and i like the first pick n the 2nd brain ro. ohio state but the rest is a joke to me
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I'm not sure what's wrong with getting 7 players out of one day, and 3 of them with NFL experience. Our need is bodies, not missing links. I would have liked to have Rey M, but a TON of teams passed on him over and over again, so we had a lot of company there.
Also, I like the way they kept Quinn, drafted a center to improve protection, and then some weapons to throw to.
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I'm not sure what's wrong with getting 7 players out of one day, and 3 of them with NFL experience. Our need is bodies, not missing links. I would have liked to have Rey M, but a TON of teams passed on him over and over again, so we had a lot of company there.
Also, I like the way they kept Quinn, drafted a center to improve protection, and then some weapons to throw to.
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I agree with ur statement which i bolded, But we landed up drafting players we might have had in lower round too .. i mean Massaquoi in Round 2 ? It is not the acquisition of more draft picks and players that has me bummed but the players we drafted at such high position. And 2 WR's ? come on ! Even if we were to trade Edwards for future draft picks neither of these two could be our No 1.
Here's hoping that Edwards and Lewis repeat 07 and Jerome Harrison and Steptoe Step up !
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Scouts Inc has Coleman ranked at 67, which is an average STARTER....and is best suited as a 5 technique (which he will play here).
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He's 30 years old and probably slowing a great deal. Plus I think the Browns take a huge cap hit with him. I don't know the details behind his contract but I know he signed a big one after his one and only good season. The 2007 season.
There is no long term vision when they acquired Coleman. He like Elam are short term plugs.
He's 30 years old and probably slowing a great deal. Plus I think the Browns take a huge cap hit with him. I don't know the details behind his contract but I know he signed a big one after his one and only good season. The 2007 season.
There is no long term vision when they acquired Coleman. He like Elam are short term plugs.
The Jets guys are a bunch of throw-ins for depth. I like Elam but he isn't a longterm solution to me. Ratliff is a #3.
I couldn't be more down on mangini. Like the trade-downs, but you have to take the right f-ing players to make it work. 4 piles of shit isn't any better than 2 piles of shit. In fact, it's probably worse.
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I'm not sure what's wrong with getting 7 players out of one day, and 3 of them with NFL experience. Our need is bodies, not missing links. I would have liked to have Rey M, but a TON of teams passed on him over and over again, so we had a lot of company there.
Also, I like the way they kept Quinn, drafted a center to improve protection, and then some weapons to throw to.
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I'll take you up on that bet. My guess is Kiper will say it's a C minus or D.
Two WR's in a row and one was a big time reach in the second round.
The last pick of the second round was someone Kiper probably had going between the 4th and 6th.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin" -
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I'll take you up on that bet. My guess is Kiper will say it's a C minus or D.
Two WR's in a row and one was a big time reach in the second round.
The last pick of the second round was someone Kiper probably had going between the 4th and 6th.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
Not as low as the one I'm giving us.
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Hopefully Edwards doesnt think that drafting 2 WR's is a message to him and starts getting more disillusioned !
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Dont't fret on the RB's. There are several good backs still available. We could trade into the 3rd to get Green (he is still available), but Coffee could drop to the 4th and Peerman (this guy is the RB sleeper of the draft) should be there as well. We WILL get a rb on day 2.
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Steeler SChuck said:
The smart move was trading down for extra picks.The mistake is reaching for those picks actually made and losing the value that yinz got by trading down.
Same old story - yinz can dig up a bone but don't know what the f*ck to do with it.
I hate to say it, but this fcuktard echoes my sentiments exactly.
Wait.
Does that mean I'm Retarded?
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I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I'll take you up on that bet. My guess is Kiper will say it's a C minus or D.
Two WR's in a row and one was a big time reach in the second round.
The last pick of the second round was someone Kiper probably had going between the 4th and 6th.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
I'll take you up on that bet. My guess is Kiper will say it's a C minus or D.
Two WR's in a row and one was a big time reach in the second round.
The last pick of the second round was someone Kiper probably had going between the 4th and 6th.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
Cool. Gentleman's bet. You're on!
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When espn showed his stats and i saw that 40 time i thought the same thing. Espn is stupid sometimes to think he will play outside linebacker. He would get killed if he is put into coverage against the likes of Witten or Winslow.
OLB is not usually the first guy to cover a TE, let alone the likes of a Witten or a Winslow. They get picked up by a LB or a saftey.
Masters said:
OLB is not usually the first guy to cover a TE, let alone the likes of a Witten or a Winslow. They get picked up by a LB or a saftey.Think about what you just said. You said OLB dont usually guard TE and that LB or safetys do. Well lets think about this the last i checked a OLB is still a LB. And for the most part LB pick up coverage on TE .
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