THIS is what we've been waiting all f-ing offseason for?
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Im pleased, we've filled some needs, best Center prospect for year, 2 excellent underrated wide receivers, both of whom will be better than Heyward Bey, Veikune should make an excellent transition to OLB, little bit dissapointed we missed out on Connor Barwin but if we hit on one of those 6th rounders ill count this an excellent draft...
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I know its been said, but I love how we got out of the #5. After Curry, there wasnt one guy who had me head-over-heels in love. Orakpo, Crabtree, and Raji all had issues. So Mangini and Kokinis convinced everyone that even though we have 2 qbs, we're going to take a QB. That's just genius IMO. Hopefully the guys we took/take will pan out and help us.
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I guess i feel weird cos all time long i felt our need was defense and a lil bit of offense and we ended up drafting
>> almost all offense and not going defense
>> Selecting 2 WR's instead of one
>> Not having any top prospects
>> No RB
>> Trading down twice and not being sure if we really got the value of our trade down.
>> Also I guess not selecting any big name prospects in all three of our top picks when we had the option of picking them has me feeling - kinda not so great !
Anyone in my boat
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it's a joke, I can't believe they didn't pick shonn greene at #50 nor #52. I don't get the point of picking robiskie when they could have just picked crabtree at #5 or #17 pick maclin.
they also passed on maualuga at #36...
shonn greene didnt have a single game under 100 yards last season with the hawkeyes and has a great work ethic(my close relative plays for the hawkeyes), it's a real shame they didn't pick him. he will be a sleeper pick to whoever picks him.
see here http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=160849
it's a joke, I can't believe they didn't pick shonn greene at #50 nor #52. I don't get the point of picking robiskie when they could have just picked crabtree at #5 or #17 pick maclin.
they also passed on maualuga at #36...
shonn greene didnt have a single game under 100 yards last season with the hawk eyes and has a great work ethic(my close relative plays for the hawkeyes), it's a real shame they didn't pick him. he will be a sleeper pick to whoever picks him.
see here http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=160849
Why not take Crabtree at #5? Well, because they got a 2nd round pick out of trading back. More is always good. Not to mention they got a DE, a S, and a QB out of the deal. They filled two starting spots and the #3 QB in the deal. None of the guys taken at #5 can fill 3 roster spots, plus give you another pick.
Robiskie fill as need and is a safe pick, along with good value. Massaquoi is again a solid pick that fills a need, along with getting value. CLE probably could have picked them in reverse order. But teams were high on him. Remember, CLE has ONE starting WR on the depth chart w/ BE. Robiskie/Massaquoi will fill the #2 or slot role w/ success for CLE.
How many teams passed on Rey. A guy people wanted taken at #5 over all. There is a reason that many teams passed on him. In the end he is seen as the 3rd best LB out of USC and lower than The Animal. Time will tell if most of the NFL GM's were wrong, but I would doubt it.
Greene also has a lot of miles on him already, so it's a concern. It's not a need in CLE. They can get someone like him tomorrow. My guess is the staff has bigger plans for Harrison.
CLE has filled the need for a big strong C to go against Hampton and Ngata 4 times a year. They filled the need for solid WR to be 2/3 to BE's #1. They got a DE/OLB who can bring pressure. On paper it may not be flashy, but it looks pretty solid. CLE might have just gotten 3 starters out of their first 5 picks, along with 2 other starters from the trade. Put in perspective of a 53 a team.
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I think someone else said it best.....this draft isn't sexy..but it has teeth. These players will all contribute. I'm still thinking that Edwards will be gone before the season starts, even if it's for draft picks next year. We're going after football players in the new era.
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I guess i feel weird cos all time long i felt our need was defense and a lil bit of offense and we ended up drafting
>> almost all offense and not going defense
>> Selecting 2 WR's instead of one
>> Not having any top prospects
>> No RB
>> Trading down twice and not being sure if we really got the value of our trade down.
>> Also I guess not selecting any big name prospects in all three of our top picks when we had the option of picking them has me feeling - kinda not so great !
Anyone in my boat
?Trading down twice and not being sure if we really got the value of our trade down.
Anyone in my boat
?This is my exact problem. I'm fine with trading down, in fact I'm happy with it. I'm also fine with going WR and Center. I'm just not sure we picked the correct players.
But why not take Maclin at 17 and wait til Rd 2 for Unger instead of taking Mack and Robiskie??? Isn't that better value??????
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I don't like it.
Everything went well until we made a pick. We passed up some top quality LB's, WR's and RB's. Instead we got a C, a couple OK WR's and a guy who isn't even a proper LB. Don't get me wrong, these guys look like they could be good players, BUT. Considering we could all be talking now about having Beanie, Rey and one of the WR's, I guarantee 90% of us would be a hell of a lot happier with that. Based on everything that was wanted before the draft, we did not predict nor want this. I appreciate a lot of you trying to defend the picks but from what has been said in the weeks prior to this, it's terribly dissapointing.
Oh well, first pick next year.
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Trading down twice and not being sure if we really got the value of our trade down.
Anyone in my boat
?This is my exact problem. I'm fine with trading down, in fact I'm happy with it. I'm also fine with going WR and Center. I'm just not sure we picked the correct players.
But why not take Maclin at 17 and wait til Rd 2 for Unger instead of taking Mack and Robiskie??? Isn't that better value??????
mz. said:
This is my exact problem. I'm fine with trading down, in fact I'm happy with it. I'm also fine with going WR and Center. I'm just not sure we picked the correct players.But why not take Maclin at 17 and wait til Rd 2 for Unger instead of taking Mack and Robiskie??? Isn't that better value??????
Unger isn't big enough to take on nose tackles...
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Two WR's in the 2nd round? Was that necessary? Does this mean anything for Braylon? Or they going to let him walk next year? If so why not just get value for him. Overall I don't think it was bad, we'll see how it turns out with all the Jets players
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Im pretty sure that after curry went bye bye and we have no need of a qb mankok decided not to waste a #5 on overpriced unproven talent and i applaud that..we now have a starter quality safety and coleman will lay waste to chaun smith on the DE spot in training camp...we have gained a very big,strong and smart center something we really needed to keep our qb alive and to offer up smash mouth runs up the gut(can you say hello jamal lewis?)..
Robiskie is an excellent possesion reciever at slot 2 or 3 and is nearly as good as slowtree and maybe better if we keep braylon..massaquoi is better then given credit he is extremely tough and improved drastically over the past season and he very well could be that gem in the rough for a 3rd slot guy..
Veikune will be moved successfully from DE to olb this guy has what it takes to naturally convert and will potentially be a freaking rock in our defense in no time...
If you look past the big names and the shiny lights and fame that surround the teams that picked them you may see mankok got this team what it really needs the rest requires good ol' fashion elbow grease from the coaching staff...most of us have said crennels poor coaching and the bums under him were the biggest problem on the defense and i still believe that..
I give mankok an A for day 1 not for greatness of macho on picks but for taking dabolls needs into heavy consideration because the truth is our offense was way more fubar then our defense and cant be fixed with coaching alone...
Mankok done well with the scraps savage left them...
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mikeyP72 said:
Veikune will prob be OLB?Im disappointed as hell. Let it out man lol.
Did you see his combine? Some of the most stiff hips I've ever seen. I still think he plays middle.
Bowens, Hall and Wimbley are your OLB's.
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@supersteelers said:
A lot of u aren't happy because u r used to flashy picks. This is the way u build a strong sucessful team. I think the Browns had the best first day of any team and if this continues tomorrow they will have had possibly their best draft in 20yrs.At least we won't have the annual PD article about how the Steelers draft lineman, thus their success, and we don't.
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