Are You Happy with the Draft Picks So far ?
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Scouts Inc has Coleman ranked at 67, which is an average STARTER....and is best suited as a 5 technique (which he will play here).
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He's 30 years old and probably slowing a great deal. Plus I think the Browns take a huge cap hit with him. I don't know the details behind his contract but I know he signed a big one after his one and only good season. The 2007 season.
There is no long term vision when they acquired Coleman. He like Elam are short term plugs.
He's 30 years old and probably slowing a great deal. Plus I think the Browns take a huge cap hit with him. I don't know the details behind his contract but I know he signed a big one after his one and only good season. The 2007 season.
There is no long term vision when they acquired Coleman. He like Elam are short term plugs.
The Jets guys are a bunch of throw-ins for depth. I like Elam but he isn't a longterm solution to me. Ratliff is a #3.
I couldn't be more down on mangini. Like the trade-downs, but you have to take the right f-ing players to make it work. 4 piles of shit isn't any better than 2 piles of shit. In fact, it's probably worse.
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I'm not sure what's wrong with getting 7 players out of one day, and 3 of them with NFL experience. Our need is bodies, not missing links. I would have liked to have Rey M, but a TON of teams passed on him over and over again, so we had a lot of company there.
Also, I like the way they kept Quinn, drafted a center to improve protection, and then some weapons to throw to.
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I'll take you up on that bet. My guess is Kiper will say it's a C minus or D.
Two WR's in a row and one was a big time reach in the second round.
The last pick of the second round was someone Kiper probably had going between the 4th and 6th.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin" -
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I'll take you up on that bet. My guess is Kiper will say it's a C minus or D.
Two WR's in a row and one was a big time reach in the second round.
The last pick of the second round was someone Kiper probably had going between the 4th and 6th.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
Not as low as the one I'm giving us.
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Hopefully Edwards doesnt think that drafting 2 WR's is a message to him and starts getting more disillusioned !
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Dont't fret on the RB's. There are several good backs still available. We could trade into the 3rd to get Green (he is still available), but Coffee could drop to the 4th and Peerman (this guy is the RB sleeper of the draft) should be there as well. We WILL get a rb on day 2.
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Steeler SChuck said:
The smart move was trading down for extra picks.The mistake is reaching for those picks actually made and losing the value that yinz got by trading down.
Same old story - yinz can dig up a bone but don't know what the f*ck to do with it.
I hate to say it, but this fcuktard echoes my sentiments exactly.
Wait.
Does that mean I'm Retarded?
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I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I'll take you up on that bet. My guess is Kiper will say it's a C minus or D.
Two WR's in a row and one was a big time reach in the second round.
The last pick of the second round was someone Kiper probably had going between the 4th and 6th.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
I'll take you up on that bet. My guess is Kiper will say it's a C minus or D.
Two WR's in a row and one was a big time reach in the second round.
The last pick of the second round was someone Kiper probably had going between the 4th and 6th.
He'll give the Browns a very low grade.
Cool. Gentleman's bet. You're on!
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When espn showed his stats and i saw that 40 time i thought the same thing. Espn is stupid sometimes to think he will play outside linebacker. He would get killed if he is put into coverage against the likes of Witten or Winslow.
OLB is not usually the first guy to cover a TE, let alone the likes of a Witten or a Winslow. They get picked up by a LB or a saftey.
Masters said:
OLB is not usually the first guy to cover a TE, let alone the likes of a Witten or a Winslow. They get picked up by a LB or a saftey.Think about what you just said. You said OLB dont usually guard TE and that LB or safetys do. Well lets think about this the last i checked a OLB is still a LB. And for the most part LB pick up coverage on TE .
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Steeler SChuck said:
The smart move was trading down for extra picks.The mistake is reaching for those picks actually made and losing the value that yinz got by trading down.
Same old story - yinz can dig up a bone but don't know what the f*ck to do with it.
I hate to say it, but this fcuktard echoes my sentiments exactly.
Wait.
Does that mean I'm Retarded?
mz. said:
I hate to say it, but this fcuktard echoes my sentiments exactly.Wait.
Does that mean I'm Retarded?
No. Im sure sometime in the future this/next year we are going to look back and wish we could undo time.
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I am quite satisfied thusfar our offense is theoretically complete minus a young big RB and BQ being named the starter..
We have to keep in mind mankok didnt have much to work with and with curry gone traded it in to more picks clevelands future is bright under mankok i sense a stockpile of round 2 and 3 draft picks and an army of no name players leading us to the superbowl in the not so distant future...
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I'm anxious to see what "Al Davis like" moves these numbskulls make tomorrow.
Maybe we'll draft Alex Boone in the 4th round to play right tackle....No wait...We'll take the nation's best punter in the 4th round. The Huber kid from Cincy!
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I'm anxious to see what "Al Davis like" moves these numbskulls make tomorrow.
Maybe we'll draft Alex Boone in the 4th round to play right tackle....No wait...We'll take the nation's best punter in the 4th round. The Huber kid from Cincy!
I'm anxious to see what "Al Davis like" moves these numbskulls make tomorrow.
As much as we hate today's performance, just look at what Al Davis did. He passed up Crabtree and Maclin et al for Heyward-Bey and drafter Mel Kiper's 73-rated safety in the second round. Mangini/Kok looks like Bill Polian next to this dude.
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I'm not sure what's wrong with getting 7 players out of one day, and 3 of them with NFL experience. Our need is bodies, not missing links. I would have liked to have Rey M, but a TON of teams passed on him over and over again, so we had a lot of company there.
Also, I like the way they kept Quinn, drafted a center to improve protection, and then some weapons to throw to.
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
I'm not sure what's wrong with getting 7 players out of one day, and 3 of them with NFL experience. Our need is bodies, not missing links. I would have liked to have Rey M, but a TON of teams passed on him over and over again, so we had a lot of company there.
Also, I like the way they kept Quinn, drafted a center to improve protection, and then some weapons to throw to.
I bet we get a draft grade of B as we didn't get carried away with glam and glitz, and stuck to the game plan of filling needs.
This is how I'd look at it on a good day....
Frankly, considering the alternate choices we had on the board, all I keep asking is "what was mankok thinking?"
Bah, a lot of you are echoing my sentiments already... I don't feel the need to restate them.
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Well, lets look at our history, Butcher Davis & Phil the Savage. Both would of given away this years draft and next years draft as well just to move up 1 spot in the first round. Instead we were able to get a couple of extra picks and some players.
That is what we needed, some depth.
As far as the picks go, Alex Mack C, Brian Robiskie WR Very Nice!
the other 2
yes unsure. Mohamed Massaquoi WR, & this guy who uh whats his name David Veikune Tweener? Maybe they know something we dont know. I can only Hope!Lets hope & Pray that Shonn Greene will make it to us tomorrow and we will pick him.
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I'm anxious to see what "Al Davis like" moves these numbskulls make tomorrow.
As much as we hate today's performance, just look at what Al Davis did. He passed up Crabtree and Maclin et al for Heyward-Bey and drafter Mel Kiper's 73-rated safety in the second round. Mangini/Kok looks like Bill Polian next to this dude.
mz. said:
As much as we hate today's performance, just look at what Al Davis did. He passed up Crabtree and Maclin et al for Heyward-Bey and drafter Mel Kiper's 73-rated safety in the second round. Mangini/Kok looks like Bill Polian next to this dude.Yeah, the kid from OU in round two!!! HAHAHA!!!!
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I agree with the Steeler fan.
We did everything right until the pick. The bottom line is, the players we got are decent. But considering who was still on the board at those times we made AWFUL picks.
But considering who was still on the board at those times we made AWFUL picks.
I'm know I'm reaching here but how about we hold off on the judgements until these guys actually play football??? I know its fun to "grade" a draft and proclaim that because we liked a guy or two that the people who actually get paid to do this don't know what they are doing but somehow I get the feeling they actually put more work into this draft than we did (or at least I hope they did).
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I'm elated with the trade-downs in the 1st and the selection of Mack.
We got Robiskie at right about where he should have went....but he'll be a starter and solid receiver for years to come. He'll probably have a more productive career than at least a couple of the WRs taken in the 1st. To me, that's great value (and a great football player.) I LOVE this pick. <<<<See...I'm not an OSU hater.
Massoqoui? Not sure...I'm guessing we reached for him because we wanted him and have no pick in the 3rd.
The Hawai'i DE/OLB project? WTF!?!?!?!? Hopefully he's a pleasant surprise but I'm not holding my breath.
I'm ecstatic that we DIDN'T draft Rey Maualuga. The guy is extremely overhyped by ASSPN and the Brent Mussbergers of the world. There is a reason why so many teams passed on him multiple times and that the friggin' Bungles ended up drafting him. Once you look past his "physicality" and "how hard he plays," there isn't really a whole lot to justify drafting the guy as high as many were thinking he should go. In my humble opinion, I count that as a bullet dodged.
Overall I'm rather pleased, but still somewhat perplexed (2 WR's in the 2nd?....bye-bye Braylons) at the same time. And the Hawai'i dude is a serious WTF.
EDIT: One thing that makes me very happy about this draft so far is that it is ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that we're not making picks that are a serious reach just because of need.
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Picking big names means nothing picking solid hardworking team players who are just glad they got a chance is more important to begin the rebuilding process...look at new england and belichicks quacky low grade picks we laugh at them year in and year out but they ussually laugh last...
Im convinced Mankok is going to rebuild this club into a winner but come on guys its not gonna happen overnight and like rome its not going to be built in a day...
Everybody wants to draft big names but most of the big names in the nfl were no names when they got drafted and the big names wouldnt be big names if it were not for that no name lineman that mysteriously stops the big named defender from getting to the big named qb or blows the hole for the big named RB...and then becomes a big name himself..
Patience guys we will get there!
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