But the polls bro...so scientific....
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According to the MSM and their close friends.
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Just like here with our general election, the Scottish independence vote and Brexit. They're a waste of time.
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I went back and forth between the coverage on Fox and the last two episodes of Ray Donovan. At one point Karl Rove whipped and we have the elections to find out if the polls are accurate or not.
WSS
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The real America polls or the liberal cuck polls?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
the fun of watching the incredulous reactions of any / all media people on tv last night
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It doesn't matter Woody . Seems to me the consensus of every pore had Donald Trump losing by 4.The real America polls or the liberal cuck polls?
The last few days Democrats have been on MSNBC taking an early Victory lap.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
the fun of watching the incredulous reactions of any / all media people on tv last night
the fun of watching the incredulous reactions of any / all media people on tv last night
Early on I did not have a good feeling about Trump winning because of the exit polls and the talking heads at Fox acting like Trump had already lost Florida before the real votes were counted due to the huge Hispanic/Latino turnout...it was common knowledge going into the election Trump had to win Florida to win the election......
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I love how HRC supporters crucified Nate Silver for saying Trump had a 30% chance
Looking at you huffpost
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I watched NBC and it it was a real struggle for them to call Florida - waiting like they did.
also a side piece showing a room full of undocumented people in Fla huddled around the tv
Overall the early voting - polling had a phony feel to me as well - what with all the enthusiasm Trump had
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The Madam President magazines go in the trash
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Ivanka 2024
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I love how HRC supporters crucified Nate Silver for saying Trump had a 30% chance
Looking at you huffpost
I love how HRC supporters crucified Nate Silver for saying Trump had a 30% chance
Looking at you huffpost
Not surprising....
Most interesting thing about the polls? That HRC under performed even Trump's internal polling... in other words his campaign went into the evening believing they were likely going to lose.
Most of the polling percentages were close. Where the polls went off rails were in their "likely voters" predictions. Where Trump came much closer to Romney than HRC did Obama in 2012.
Game set match...
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Well GA was not a toss up. Trump won Ohio by a wide margin. NC too. We all knew TX wasn't a toss up.
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Not sure what your definition of "toss up" is... or what your post was in response to for that matter.
NC was separated by 177,000 votes out of 4.5mm. Georgia 130,000 out of 4mm. Those are close, competitive results which is my definition of toss up.
Ohio was widely predicted for Trump albeit not by the margin he rolled up.
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It doesn't matter Woody . Seems to me the consensus of every pore had Donald Trump losing by 4.The real America polls or the liberal cuck polls?
The last few days Democrats have been on MSNBC taking an early Victory lap.
WSS
It doesn't matter Woody . Seems to me the consensus of every pore had Donald Trump losing by 4.
The last few days Democrats have been on MSNBC taking an early Victory lap.
WSS
This seems like an anomaly. if anything, a chance to rework the formula
Though many will take it as validation of their anti science / anti academic beliefs.
"they say Clinton would win, why should I believe them about the climate?"
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
It doesn't matter Woody . Seems to me the consensus of every pore had Donald Trump losing by 4.
The last few days Democrats have been on MSNBC taking an early Victory lap.
WSS
This seems like an anomaly. if anything, a chance to rework the formula
Though many will take it as validation of their anti science / anti academic beliefs.
"they say Clinton would win, why should I believe them about the climate?"
This seems like an anomaly. if anything, a chance to rework the formula
Though many will take it as validation of their anti science / anti academic beliefs.
"they say Clinton would win, why should I believe them about the climate?"
As I was partly paying attention to the news coverage today on MSNBC I heard a black woman panelis bemoan the fact that and this is almost a direct quote, as journalists I feel we didn't do enough. As journalist? Please.
WSS
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One last poll comment...
There was one in 538's, national poll, data base that "got it right". The final Marist poll, an "A" rated poll put HRC up by one in their raw data, but their adjusted number was Trump +1.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/
A click on the embedded Marist link takes you to the article associated with the poll's release. It opens with:
A majority of voters believe Hillary Clinton has done something illegal, according to a new McClatchy-Marist Poll days before the presidential election.
A total of 83 percent of likely voters believe that Clinton did something wrong – 51 percent saying she did something illegal and 32 percent saying she something unethical but not illegal. Just 14 percent said she’s done nothing wrong.
By comparison, 79 percent think Donald Trump did something wrong, though not nearly as many think he did something illegal. Just 26 percent think he’s done something illegal, while 53 percent think he’s dome something unethical but not illegal. Just 17 percent think he’s done nothing wrong.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article112635048.html
I'm sure the election will be dissected 20 ways to Sunday over the coming weeks, but at a glance this could be as close to a rationale I've heard.
The late Comey letter impact? I'll leave that for others to parse... but if you dig into Marist's preceding Sept. poll (see page 14) "Soft Dems" were far more favorable towards HRC than Soft Repubs were toward Trump.
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Plus gee whiz thanks for bringing up global warming again.
I think all it proves is that for all their bragging and puffery They Don't Know Jack Schitt about polling data.
WSS
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538 predicted everything correctly last year. So clearly they know something.
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By the way tour out of hundreds of prognosticators a few of them will get the NFL scores pretty close.
And they still call it gambling.
WSS
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