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  • R RoyceRolls

    They could move to Oakland.

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    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @roycerolls said:

    They could move to Oakland.

    And play where? In just as big of a dump as they have now in Qualcomm?

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    • Mark OM Mark O

      If you go by percent to capacity, yes they are near the bottom, 28th to be exact. But if you look average per game, they are 2nd in the league to Dallas at 83,700 per game. The Rams are drawing just fine and while I don't think the Chargers should move, there's no way a stadium is getting built in San Diego. They wont go to San Antonio, Jerry J. won't ever allow another team to be moved into Texas. Raiders to Vegas, Chargers to LA as the tennant to the Rams.

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      @mark-o said:

      If you go by percent to capacity, yes they are near the bottom, 28th to be exact. But if you look average per game, they are 2nd in the league to Dallas at 83,700 per game. The Rams are drawing just fine and while I don't think the Chargers should move, there's no way a stadium is getting built in San Diego. They wont go to San Antonio, Jerry J. won't ever allow another team to be moved into Texas. Raiders to Vegas, Chargers to LA as the tennant to the Rams.

      I've seen this on ESPN how can a team have a percentage over 100%?? If the ground is full that's at 100% capacity no?

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        @mark-o said:

        If you go by percent to capacity, yes they are near the bottom, 28th to be exact. But if you look average per game, they are 2nd in the league to Dallas at 83,700 per game. The Rams are drawing just fine and while I don't think the Chargers should move, there's no way a stadium is getting built in San Diego. They wont go to San Antonio, Jerry J. won't ever allow another team to be moved into Texas. Raiders to Vegas, Chargers to LA as the tennant to the Rams.

        I've seen this on ESPN how can a team have a percentage over 100%?? If the ground is full that's at 100% capacity no?

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        @londonbrown said:

        I've seen this on ESPN how can a team have a percentage over 100%?? If the ground is full that's at 100% capacity no?

        Some stadiums sell standing room only tickets.

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          @londonbrown said:

          I've seen this on ESPN how can a team have a percentage over 100%?? If the ground is full that's at 100% capacity no?

          Some stadiums sell standing room only tickets.

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          @mark-o said:

          Some stadiums sell standing room only tickets.

          So the capacity listed is actually how many seats are available?

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            @mark-o said:

            Some stadiums sell standing room only tickets.

            So the capacity listed is actually how many seats are available?

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            @londonbrown said:

            So the capacity listed is actually how many seats are available?

            That would be my understanding.

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            • C Clevfan4life

              It's vegas or LA. If the Raiders take Vegas than Chargers go to LA

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              @clevfan4life said:

              It's vegas or LA. If the Raiders take Vegas than Chargers go to LA

              Now that the NFL appears to be over the gambling hangup Las Vegas is getting a team, the Raiders are a better left coast fit but the Chargers would work.

              They better hurry with both before the magic window closes for billion dollar stadiums in professional football.

              The other city? Mexico City? A border Mexican city? (If president Trump will allow it. 😆 )

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                sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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                500 million relocation fee,,wouldnt say it's quite over for san diego yet

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                  500 million relocation fee,,wouldnt say it's quite over for san diego yet

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                  @syd said:

                  500 million relocation fee,,wouldnt say it's quite over for san diego yet

                  they'll make that back no matter where they go as long as its a new stadium that isn't crumbling down around them like Qualcomm.

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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    It's vegas or LA. If the Raiders take Vegas than Chargers go to LA

                    Now that the NFL appears to be over the gambling hangup Las Vegas is getting a team, the Raiders are a better left coast fit but the Chargers would work.

                    They better hurry with both before the magic window closes for billion dollar stadiums in professional football.

                    The other city? Mexico City? A border Mexican city? (If president Trump will allow it. 😆 )

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                    The other city? Mexico City? A border Mexican city? (If president Trump will allow it. 😆 )

                    Actually Mexico City would be an excellent choice. Cheap labor to build the stadium and it would fill every week. Could make a hell-of-a contract with Univision for here in the U.S. for all the illegals that would tune in to watch their home team games and sell a lot of advertisement in Spanish to hit that huge market. We just need to convince the wall builder that this would make better business sense than sending them all back. Been telling my kids since they were little to learn Spanish if they wanted to be a part of the long term future of this country and that was before NAFTA. There is a huge untapped market to our south and smart business guys are catching on to it.

                    I should send the Donald a copy of Doris Kearns Goodwin's "The Bully Pulpit". TR was way beyond his time on our neighbors to the south. He was just a bit heavy handed is all.

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                      flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                      If they move, OKC seems a logical choice.

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                        Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                        St Louis or OKC if they move. I'd hate to see them move though.

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                          From what you hear? Who are you hearing this from because hey are ranked second in attendance in the NFL behind Dallas.

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                          @alkid3 said:

                          From what you hear? Who are you hearing this from because hey are ranked second in attendance in the NFL behind Dallas.

                          Capacity figures. Though perhaps that is misleading....as the Coliseum holds a ton of people. Still....as far as I am concerned, why don't we see if one team can make it in LA before they put another team there.

                          It is foolish to think that just because it is "LA" and some of the league owners are Hollywood star butthole sniffers (read: Jerry Jones) and because it is the second largest market in the nation that it is able to support two teams.

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                            500 million relocation fee,,wouldnt say it's quite over for san diego yet

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @syd said:

                            500 million relocation fee,,wouldnt say it's quite over for san diego yet

                            True that....but still, what are they going to do about a stadium? Spanos has loyalty to SD....but it can only go so far.

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                              If you go by percent to capacity, yes they are near the bottom, 28th to be exact. But if you look average per game, they are 2nd in the league to Dallas at 83,700 per game. The Rams are drawing just fine and while I don't think the Chargers should move, there's no way a stadium is getting built in San Diego. They wont go to San Antonio, Jerry J. won't ever allow another team to be moved into Texas. Raiders to Vegas, Chargers to LA as the tennant to the Rams.

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @mark-o said:

                              If you go by percent to capacity, yes they are near the bottom, 28th to be exact. But if you look average per game, they are 2nd in the league to Dallas at 83,700 per game. The Rams are drawing just fine and while I don't think the Chargers should move, there's no way a stadium is getting built in San Diego. They wont go to San Antonio, Jerry J. won't ever allow another team to be moved into Texas. Raiders to Vegas, Chargers to LA as the tennant to the Rams.

                              Jerry may have influence....but he don't control shit. From my understanding (as my daughter lives there), a lot of people in SA had been fed up with Jerry Jones taking SA for granted and thinking he owns them......and a lot of people had shifted allegience to the Texans. (but that may all change now that the Cowboys are winning big....their mediocrity was another factor in driving people away.....winning could cause them to flock back).

                              IF a big enough fat cat were to come along and put money up for a new stadium.....they could go. In the interim, the Alamodome is probably as good a stadium for an NFL team to play in as the ones in both SD and Oakland....but a new stadium would be required.

                              Besides, the NFL owners may like the idea of playing a Super Bowl in SATX. It has good weather (much better than Dallas) that time of year.

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                                St Louis or OKC if they move. I'd hate to see them move though.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @bob806 said:

                                St Louis or OKC if they move. I'd hate to see them move though.

                                Well, you talk about a market that Jerry Jones thinks he owns...it is Oklahoma City.

                                Besides, OKC isn't even in the top 40 Nielsen TV markets. Portland, Salt Lake City, West Palm Beach, Orlando, Greenville-Spartanburg are bigger. Austin alone is bigger...not including San Antonio. Raleigh alone is bigger not including Charlotte.

                                Columbus and Hartford are bigger.

                                OKC works as a one horse town for basketball.....but it would not bring the type of eyeballs the NFL would want.

                                They probably actually regret having placed a team in Jacksonville which is also not in the Top 40 markets.

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                                  @alkid3 said:

                                  From what you hear? Who are you hearing this from because hey are ranked second in attendance in the NFL behind Dallas.

                                  Capacity figures. Though perhaps that is misleading....as the Coliseum holds a ton of people. Still....as far as I am concerned, why don't we see if one team can make it in LA before they put another team there.

                                  It is foolish to think that just because it is "LA" and some of the league owners are Hollywood star butthole sniffers (read: Jerry Jones) and because it is the second largest market in the nation that it is able to support two teams.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Capacity figures. Though perhaps that is misleading....as the Coliseum holds a ton of people. Still....as far as I am concerned, why don't we see if one team can make it in LA before they put another team there.

                                  It is foolish to think that just because it is "LA" and some of the league owners are Hollywood star butthole sniffers (read: Jerry Jones) and because it is the second largest market in the nation that it is able to support two teams.

                                  I dont think its misleading, if they cant fill the stadium for one team what % capacity will two teams fill?

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Capacity figures. Though perhaps that is misleading....as the Coliseum holds a ton of people. Still....as far as I am concerned, why don't we see if one team can make it in LA before they put another team there.

                                    It is foolish to think that just because it is "LA" and some of the league owners are Hollywood star butthole sniffers (read: Jerry Jones) and because it is the second largest market in the nation that it is able to support two teams.

                                    I dont think its misleading, if they cant fill the stadium for one team what % capacity will two teams fill?

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                                    @londonbrown said:

                                    I dont think its misleading, if they cant fill the stadium for one team what % capacity will two teams fill?

                                    The old LA Coliseum has apparently an 80,000 capacity for NFL games....but it has a 93,000+ capacity for USC games. Why did difference, I don't know.

                                    The new stadium they are building will be 80,000....so I think they are artificially reducing the current capacity of the Coliseum to match what they will have with the new LA stadium.

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                                      @mjp28 said:

                                      The other city? Mexico City? A border Mexican city? (If president Trump will allow it. 😆 )

                                      Actually Mexico City would be an excellent choice. Cheap labor to build the stadium and it would fill every week. Could make a hell-of-a contract with Univision for here in the U.S. for all the illegals that would tune in to watch their home team games and sell a lot of advertisement in Spanish to hit that huge market. We just need to convince the wall builder that this would make better business sense than sending them all back. Been telling my kids since they were little to learn Spanish if they wanted to be a part of the long term future of this country and that was before NAFTA. There is a huge untapped market to our south and smart business guys are catching on to it.

                                      I should send the Donald a copy of Doris Kearns Goodwin's "The Bully Pulpit". TR was way beyond his time on our neighbors to the south. He was just a bit heavy handed is all.

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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      Actually Mexico City would be an excellent choice. Cheap labor to build the stadium...

                                      Except network feeds of home games will get slapped with a 30% tariff...

                                      Azteca soccer stadium seats 87k...

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                                        If they do move and that's a big IF they should go to St. Louis! Those people had their team ripped right out in front of them! Roger Goodell is an A$$hole for doing that so LA could have a team. He's too stupid to remember the reason the Rams moved in the first place.

                                        As for Europe, I pity any team adjusting to time zones on a weekly basis. Europe watches Soccer, Cricket and Tennis!

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                                          If they do move and that's a big IF they should go to St. Louis! Those people had their team ripped right out in front of them! Roger Goodell is an A$$hole for doing that so LA could have a team. He's too stupid to remember the reason the Rams moved in the first place.

                                          As for Europe, I pity any team adjusting to time zones on a weekly basis. Europe watches Soccer, Cricket and Tennis!

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          @opal312 said:

                                          If they do move and that's a big IF they should go to St. Louis! Those people had their team ripped right out in front of them! Roger Goodell is an A$$hole for doing that so LA could have a team. He's too stupid to remember the reason the Rams moved in the first place.

                                          As for Europe, I pity any team adjusting to time zones on a weekly basis. Europe watches Soccer, Cricket and Tennis!

                                          Roger Goodell really had nothing to do with it. It was the other owners, particularly Jones who salivated over the money they think they could make from the LA market. Goodell is only following orders basically.

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