OK It's Official....
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Here's another depressing statistic. In every game our opponent has possession of the ball nearly twice as long as the Browns. This week Baltimore 38:36 Browns 21:24
First downs Baltimore 29 Browns 11
Touchdowns 3-1 Return yards Baltimore 95 Browns -2
And on it goes
But Kessler is not the reason they're 0-10! Quite the contrary; its Hue Jackson! Did you hear his lame excuse at the press conference? His "My way or highway" attitude is not very becoming! If we are to believe that they drafted Kessler to be the future then taking him out of a game where he wasn't the problem makes no sense. How is he supposed to grow as an NFL QB sitting on the sideline watching McCown get sacked, throw interceptions and batted down balls. McCown passer rating 19.1 to Kessler's 95
Boy am I glad I'm never watching another Browns game! After 55+ yrs as a fan and ex-season ticket holder; Enough! Putrid Hue and Podesta can eat Sushi for all I care! PEEE UUUUU HUE
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Taking a timeout before the first play was a stroke of genius....or did I have a stroke?
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Eh if we lose 38-0 vs. pittsburgh then I think we have the right to complain, but lets relax a little bit guys. Hue definitely made some questionable calls, but it's one step closer to next year.
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Once again, this is year 1 of a complete rebuild from FO to waterboy, with the owner stating - again - that we build through draft (... no high priced free agents...)
What were you expecting?
I will admit, their early season close games - even late game leads - led me to believe they would have squeaked out a win or two by now, but this was always a losing year.
it's the price you pay for the life you choose.
I can't understand anyone who expected more than this given those parameters - let alone anyone expecting a 'winning' - dare I say Super Bowl - team in less than a single year.
Instant gratification was never an option.
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Question. Since the Browns formed, why have they never needed a 5 year plan to win? Other teams just get a better coach. We gotta have a half decade "plan" that is doomed to fail because of owner brilliance.
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Question. Since the Browns formed, why have they never needed a 5 year plan to win? Other teams just get a better coach. We gotta have a half decade "plan" that is doomed to fail because of owner brilliance.
Question. Since the Browns formed, why have they never needed a 5 year plan to win? Other teams just get a better coach. We gotta have a half decade "plan" that is doomed to fail because of owner brilliance.
no one said it's five years man.....
fuck it, give it ten years..... with the same people, after ten years we have to start winning.....
do you really think hue could go 0-100?
3 years from now i think we'll have a solid team..... but i'd like it if we replaced horton with someone a bit better and replaced the talent with some better......
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Well the raiders are getting good and didnt need 5 fucking years to get there.. Quit spewing bullshit.. Im not buy 3,5 or 10 years plans anymore.. I've been waiting for the Browns to "get better" since Kink Artie pulled stakes in left town.. THERE ARE NO EXCUSES ANYMORE!
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And we have tried 1-2 year turnarounds how many times now, nickers? Plenty. NONE OF THEM WORKED.
First, the Raiders are not a Super Bowl team this year. Book it. I am highly confident they don't even make the AFC championship. Their build is well underway, but I still think it needs one more year.
Secondly, they went 4-12 in 2012 and 2013. In Derek Carr and Khalil Mack (the major pieces of their build on each side of the ball)'s first season, they went 3-13. Last year, they went 7-9. So it's taken three years to build a contender.
AT LEAST GIVE THIS FRONT OFFICE AND COACHING STAFF THAT LONG, especially if that's the example you're going to bring up.
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And we have tried 1-2 year turnarounds how many times now, nickers? Plenty. NONE OF THEM WORKED.
First, the Raiders are not a Super Bowl team this year. Book it. I am highly confident they don't even make the AFC championship. Their build is well underway, but I still think it needs one more year.
Secondly, they went 4-12 in 2012 and 2013. In Derek Carr and Khalil Mack (the major pieces of their build on each side of the ball)'s first season, they went 3-13. Last year, they went 7-9. So it's taken three years to build a contender.
AT LEAST GIVE THIS FRONT OFFICE AND COACHING STAFF THAT LONG, especially if that's the example you're going to bring up.
And we have tried 1-2 year turnarounds how many times now, nickers? Plenty. NONE OF THEM WORKED.
First, the Raiders are not a Super Bowl team this year. Book it. I am highly confident they don't even make the AFC championship. Their build is well underway, but I still think it needs one more year.
Secondly, they went 4-12 in 2012 and 2013. In Derek Carr and Khalil Mack (the major pieces of their build on each side of the ball)'s first season, they went 3-13. Last year, they went 7-9. So it's taken three years to build a contender.
AT LEAST GIVE THIS FRONT OFFICE AND COACHING STAFF THAT LONG, especially if that's the example you're going to bring up.
They don't deserve that long.. they suck.. \I never said they were super bowl bound.. but they're at least entetaining.. they have a "Quarterback".. Teams go as thier QB goes!
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So which remaining opponent gives the best shot at avoiding 0-16?
Bills? Chargers?
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So which remaining opponent gives the best shot at avoiding 0-16?
Bills? Chargers?
So which remaining opponent gives the best shot at avoiding 0-16?
Bills? Chargers?
It's gonna be hard to get a win when you have to factor in the stupidness of your own coach also.
This loss is more than just depressing. It has underscored, to me anyway, that we do in fact have the wrong coach. That is the worst part of this loss.
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Hue must go along with the entire management. Hell, sell the team. I
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Ever watch someone in a casino on a losing run? The longer it goes the worse it gets until all the chips go into the pot in desperation.
Pretty much defines Hue Jackson. Very sad for Cleveland because Jimmah is quickly becoming a non-believer watching the meltdown in living color.
EDIT: Collinsworth was trying to give the benefit of the doubt last night, but it was obvious he felt he coaching moves were highly questionable.
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So which remaining opponent gives the best shot at avoiding 0-16?
Bills? Chargers?
So which remaining opponent gives the best shot at avoiding 0-16?
Bills? Chargers?
Not sure if they can win. The secondary and O line aren't pro caliber.
Only way they win is to get a bunch of turnovers.
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And we have tried 1-2 year turnarounds how many times now, nickers? Plenty. NONE OF THEM WORKED.
First, the Raiders are not a Super Bowl team this year. Book it. I am highly confident they don't even make the AFC championship. Their build is well underway, but I still think it needs one more year.
Secondly, they went 4-12 in 2012 and 2013. In Derek Carr and Khalil Mack (the major pieces of their build on each side of the ball)'s first season, they went 3-13. Last year, they went 7-9. So it's taken three years to build a contender.
AT LEAST GIVE THIS FRONT OFFICE AND COACHING STAFF THAT LONG, especially if that's the example you're going to bring up.
They don't deserve that long.. they suck.. \I never said they were super bowl bound.. but they're at least entetaining.. they have a "Quarterback".. Teams go as thier QB goes!
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I hate to say this but the only glimmer of respect the leauge has for us is the Jackson Hiring. Players like Pryor will shut down and try to work their way out of Cleveland if we fire Hue. I know what i'm saying, that the black players main consideration for playing for the Browns is a black head coach. In a perfect world that wouldn't happen but Cleveland has nothing else. Nobody wants to play nor coach the Browns. Soemthing else you guys shoudl probalby get used to is the only reason hue came here anyway was because there was some iron clad guarantees he woudlnt' be tossed after 1 year and probably not for 2-3 eithers. Nobody as highly touted as Hue Jackson was is coming to the Browns. We fire Hue and it tells the league we were just funnin last year it's right back to old Brownies....just start pulling coaches off the st at that point.
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Yep. Even aside from the race thing, commentators around the country say "this team's record isn't Hue's fault. There's no talent." I guarantee that's how coaches around the country see it too. You think they're gonna jump on this job if we fire Hue? Don't be Retarded.
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Just me waiting for the team to show progress
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We knew this would be a long season with the house cleaning. They aren't disappointing but there is no doubt in my mind it is a lack of talent and not coaching. We are not going to bring in any new HC and turn this team around until we get more talent.
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