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I called it before the season started that some of you wouldn't make it halfway through before..

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @tiamat63 said:

    Oh good, somebody else caught that bit and not just me.

    And that was before I caught his "flourishing" HCs take-two...

    @tour2ma said:

    And that was before I caught his "flourishing" HCs take-two...

    I assume that's a branch off of my response of successful year 1 coaches in the other thread? Well, let me go fill this coffee cup and give that a look over.

  • Here's the thing. We are not heavily entrenched with this coach yet. He's only been here ten months or so. If as an organization you've already come to the conclusion that 'this guy is NOT what we thought he was' then cutting bait early might not be the worst thing in the world.

    Coaching continuity is something we sorely need...but you've got to have the right type of guy first.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug

    @wargograw said:

    I will be happy to post the list of people that will "blame us" if we can Hue. Bout half the country thought we Retard for firing the last two coaches but you think they'd be congratulating us this time? You're an idiot, Caine. Find another hobby til 2018.

    Clevfan, spot on. These people are pathetic.

    About half the country? So that means more than half the country thought they were right?

    I don't understand how you tolerate losing so well. Unless your case is full of participation trophys

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    About half the country? So that means more than half the country thought they were right?

    I don't understand how you tolerate losing so well. Unless your case is full of participation trophys

    "No one would blame us."

    Is half the country more than no one?

  • OrionO Orion

    Here's the thing. We are not heavily entrenched with this coach yet. He's only been here ten months or so. If as an organization you've already come to the conclusion that 'this guy is NOT what we thought he was' then cutting bait early might not be the worst thing in the world.

    Coaching continuity is something we sorely need...but you've got to have the right type of guy first.

    @orion said:

    Here's the thing. We are not heavily entrenched with this coach yet. He's only been here ten months or so. If as an organization you've already come to the conclusion that 'this guy is NOT what we thought he was' then cutting bait early might not be the worst thing in the world.

    Coaching continuity is something we sorely need...but you've got to have the right type of guy first.

    No, you really don't. And "the right type of guy" will not be remotely interested in coming here.

  • OrionO Orion

    Here's the thing. We are not heavily entrenched with this coach yet. He's only been here ten months or so. If as an organization you've already come to the conclusion that 'this guy is NOT what we thought he was' then cutting bait early might not be the worst thing in the world.

    Coaching continuity is something we sorely need...but you've got to have the right type of guy first.

    @orion said:

    'this guy is NOT what we thought he was' then cutting bait early might not be the worst thing in the world.

    .

    Oh no it would be the worst thing in the world. A decision that could very well lead to the team moving again. Not next year or the year after. But letting hue go would lead to a progression of d3 coaches or even d4 coaches, if that exists. The joke we already are would triple. After 3-4 one and out d3 triple option windowlickers, team goes bye bye

  • You know what though, i bet that could work in cleveland. I mean look how good it works for air force. Pryor could totally run the triple op defenses will be stymied, none if em seen it since pop warner league

  • I understand how many coaches we've fired. It's bad. But that's not the right reason to stick with a bum.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
  • OrionO Orion

    I understand how many coaches we've fired. It's bad. But that's not the right reason to stick with a bum.

    @orion said:

    I understand how many coaches we've fired. It's bad. But that's not the right reason to stick with a bum.

    Im willing to let him grow as a coach.

  • Stadium is leased through 2029 so we wont move until atleast 2030 even if we go 0 and 208

  • At this point in time he needs to stay a minimum amount of years so that good coaches might be interested. If he really does turn out to be just another bum, it has to be proven to other potential coaches that even the bums get a fair shot. And I guarantee those guys will not think of themselves as bums and will believe they get the time it takes to be miracle workers.

    Bottom line. We're stuck for the duration 3-5 years.

  • OrionO Orion

    Here's the thing. We are not heavily entrenched with this coach yet. He's only been here ten months or so. If as an organization you've already come to the conclusion that 'this guy is NOT what we thought he was' then cutting bait early might not be the worst thing in the world.

    Coaching continuity is something we sorely need...but you've got to have the right type of guy first.

    @orion said:

    Here's the thing. We are not heavily entrenched with this coach yet. He's only been here ten months or so. If as an organization you've already come to the conclusion that 'this guy is NOT what we thought he was' then cutting bait early might not be the worst thing in the world.

    Coaching continuity is something we sorely need...but you've got to have the right type of guy first.

    Ha, you think "the right type of guy" is just going to be obvious? We can put Ghoolie on the search committee, LOL. Hue was about the hottest HC prospect out there when we hired him. Remember? He had one thing all the other guys in the Haslam ownership didn't have- previous HC experience.

    Jimmy barely had his feet wet as Browns owner when he sent Shurmer packing- a move I approved of. Then he gave Chudinski one year, (not enough IMHO). Pettine got two seasons, but he was saddled with that albatross Johnny Football, and a clueless Ray Farmer.

    So now it's on to Hue, Sashi, and Depodesta.Time will tell if this is the right move- and that's what's going to happen this time. As others have said- if Jimmy blows it up yet again after an 0-16 season, he's only going to get D III coaches and recycled FO types looking for a paycheck.

  • Nobody wants to see Hue fail. But he has shown us that he's either inept or just plain over his head. The game against Baltimore had to be the worst Browns loss in recent memory. Two timeouts in the first five minutes! Replacing the quarterback with a guy who was sacked three times for losses, intercepted, his balls were batted down and the game turned into another comedy act. This time on national television. I'd play a healthy Kessler or Hogan every time before an old journeyman backup with injuries.

    Hue made an ass out of himself, Cleveland and the team!

    Sorry to criticize an 0-10 team after 55 years of being a fan. Hue is not what we thought he was. He's another Haslam lackey who wanted a cheap win and it backfired.

    I didn't like the draft and I didn't like the third round pick to get Kessler. But all of us were rooting for Cody Thursday night. He didn't do anything to get benched. What does that say about coach Jackson? Is he some kind of psychic Genie? What's worse is his post game bullsh*t.

    He stinks!

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!

  • We could trade Hue...

    SF might be willing to deal Chip to us.

    Then Jimmah would finally land have his first, true HC love... four-years later...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • can't blow it up. we know the tank is in and a lot of us knew before the season.

    but there has to be a measuring stick (?). there has to be a deadline. the this has to be done by then date. when is it for hue and the FO? another year of garbage talent ain't gonna cut it. i mean a lot here bitch about those who bitch BUT to a large extent i think most of us 'bitchers' have held it together quite nicely so far. but week number 6 next year the kettle on the stove will have been on for hours and the steam will be making that piercing noise…...

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    can't blow it up. we know the tank is in and a lot of us knew before the season.

    but there has to be a measuring stick (?). there has to be a deadline. the this has to be done by then date. when is it for hue and the FO? another year of garbage talent ain't gonna cut it. i mean a lot here bitch about those who bitch BUT to a large extent i think most of us 'bitchers' have held it together quite nicely so far. but week number 6 next year the kettle on the stove will have been on for hours and the steam will be making that piercing noise…...

    @miktoxic said:

    can't blow it up. we know the tank is in and a lot of us knew before the season.

    but there has to be a measuring stick (?). there has to be a deadline. the this has to be done by then date. when is it for hue and the FO? another year of garbage talent ain't gonna cut it. i mean a lot here bitch about those who bitch BUT to a large extent i think most of us 'bitchers' have held it together quite nicely so far. but week number 6 next year the kettle on the stove will have been on for hours and the steam will be making that piercing noise…...

    Nah mik- it's week #7. that's when we have the potential to tie Tampa's record for consecutive losses.

    I honestly don't see the Browns winning a game this season. If they do, big surprise. As Ag said after week 8, that's when we should have started seeing some improvement with the young 'uns. I haven't seen anything dramatic yet. As a team they've regressed. Hue pulling Kessler because supposedly he wanted Cody to take some chances. I hope he was really happy watching Josh take chances while we were getting blown out in the second half.

  • Prophetic Cleve comes through again.

    Yeah you called it...you also predicted Pettine wasn't going anywhere, and that no way Trump would become president. So go ahead and use this rare opportunity to puff your chest out.(please no one turn this into a political discussion)

    I believe Hue can turn it around.

    Eventually.

    But so could have Eric Mangini turned it around. Eventually. Problem is that browns fans want a winner now. Been waiting way too long, and wanting a winner now is understandable.

    Coaches don't want to come here. The coaches that do know full well they are taking a risk, and have evaluated the risk/reward possibilities.

    The reward is of epic proportions. If they are "the one" that has finally succeeded in Cleveland, the one that brings back the once rich tradition this team once enjoyed, then that coach becomes a God in this rabid football town...and highly respected throughout the league.

    The risk is that if he fails, his head coaching opportunities go down the toilet...his future is relegated to some assistant or coordinator job.

    Kinda like how Cleveland ruins quarterbacks.

    If I'm not mistaken Romeo Crennel was the only fired browns coach to become a head coach elsewhere....but not immediately. He was a coordinator first and kind of fell into the position because he was already there.

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  • StinkHoleS StinkHole

    Prophetic Cleve comes through again.

    Yeah you called it...you also predicted Pettine wasn't going anywhere, and that no way Trump would become president. So go ahead and use this rare opportunity to puff your chest out.(please no one turn this into a political discussion)

    I believe Hue can turn it around.

    Eventually.

    But so could have Eric Mangini turned it around. Eventually. Problem is that browns fans want a winner now. Been waiting way too long, and wanting a winner now is understandable.

    Coaches don't want to come here. The coaches that do know full well they are taking a risk, and have evaluated the risk/reward possibilities.

    The reward is of epic proportions. If they are "the one" that has finally succeeded in Cleveland, the one that brings back the once rich tradition this team once enjoyed, then that coach becomes a God in this rabid football town...and highly respected throughout the league.

    The risk is that if he fails, his head coaching opportunities go down the toilet...his future is relegated to some assistant or coordinator job.

    Kinda like how Cleveland ruins quarterbacks.

    If I'm not mistaken Romeo Crennel was the only fired browns coach to become a head coach elsewhere....but not immediately. He was a coordinator first and kind of fell into the position because he was already there.

    @stinkhole said:

    (please no one turn this into a political discussion)

    Says the guy who opened the door...

    How 'bout dem Cowboys!

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Yeah I don't get it. Every year - "we need stability guys! but, we need to find the right coach before stability!" You know, the one that can come in to an organisation that is 37-90 since 2008, has basically like 3 good players, and immediately turn them in to a winning team based on less and less coaching time allowed. That guy, that'll be obvious right? And so we just keep firing guys after a year or two until we find him?

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  • what we need most that we've been missing since the rebirth is a roster.

    i mean a roster with more than just 2-3 guys you can point to. a roster of linemen on both sides of the ball that will beat the piss out of you. thank you dallas and oakland and any other good team for pointing that out to fans of the diva WRs and flashy QBs. get the beef up front then add the steak sauce.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    what we need most that we've been missing since the rebirth is a roster.

    i mean a roster with more than just 2-3 guys you can point to. a roster of linemen on both sides of the ball that will beat the piss out of you. thank you dallas and oakland and any other good team for pointing that out to fans of the diva WRs and flashy QBs. get the beef up front then add the steak sauce.

    @miktoxic said:

    what we need most that we've been missing since the rebirth is a roster.

    i mean a roster with more than just 2-3 guys you can point to. a roster of linemen on both sides of the ball that will beat the piss out of you. thank you dallas and oakland and any other good team for pointing that out to fans of the diva WRs and flashy QBs. get the beef up front then add the steak sauce.

    Is that hearsay or heresy? Or both? 😁

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