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  • A big ten championship PSU that beat OSU head to head?

    @mld-woody said:

    A big ten championship PSU that beat OSU head to head?

    Yes. With (if) a victory over Michigan....a no brainer.

  • PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU

  • Just saw meat chicken QB out with broken collarbone

  • Just saw meat chicken QB out with broken collarbone

    @browns149 said:

    Just saw meat chicken QB out with broken collarbone

    Yep. That is very, very not good. I don't see how we beat OSU now.

  • PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU

    @browns149 said:

    PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU

    PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.

    I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.

  • colorado i believe is not a top 20 team guess i'll find out in the next few weeks if they belong or not they have home games vs the cougers and the utes,so for them i guess there is allready room for celebration being that this will be their first winning season since 2004,which i am sure that is what michigan was banking on when they scheduled them

    oh and as far as the occ you claim to be so much better than OSU do you ever look at whet level of competition these other teams played ? of course you hav'nt

  • but hey i see your team scheduled a couple of tough games in the up coming years florida and notre damn

  • @browns149 said:

    PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU

    PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.

    I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.

    @mld-woody said:

    PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.

    I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.

    as I said penn state is over rated (you really don't listen do you) Wisconsins D will punch right through their porous o-line, win bye 2 scores

  • @browns149 said:

    PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU

    PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.

    I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.

    @mld-woody said:

    PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.

    I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.

    can never say never, but if OSU wins out and PSU wins out. OSU will have a better record against a tougher schedule. Plus the committee is supposed to take the 4 best teams. I don't care if PSU beat OSU. Everyone knows OSU is a better team then PSU
  • sydS syd

    colorado i believe is not a top 20 team guess i'll find out in the next few weeks if they belong or not they have home games vs the cougers and the utes,so for them i guess there is allready room for celebration being that this will be their first winning season since 2004,which i am sure that is what michigan was banking on when they scheduled them

    oh and as far as the occ you claim to be so much better than OSU do you ever look at whet level of competition these other teams played ? of course you hav'nt

    @syd said:

    colorado i believe is not a top 20 team guess i'll find out in the next few weeks if they belong or not they have home games vs the cougers and the utes,so for them i guess there is allready room for celebration being that this will be their first winning season since 2004,which i am sure that is what michigan was banking on when they scheduled them

    oh and as far as the occ you claim to be so much better than OSU do you ever look at whet level of competition these other teams played ? of course you hav'nt

    You have a terrible time with reading comprehension, huh? You'd fit in well over on the political board.

    Please tell me where I claimed Michigan's OOC was "so much better" than OSUs.

    I'll wait.

  • @mld-woody said:

    PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.

    I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.

    can never say never, but if OSU wins out and PSU wins out. OSU will have a better record against a tougher schedule. Plus the committee is supposed to take the 4 best teams. I don't care if PSU beat OSU. Everyone knows OSU is a better team then PSU

    @browns149 said:

    can never say never, but if OSU wins out and PSU wins out. OSU will have a better record against a tougher schedule. Plus the committee is supposed to take the 4 best teams. I don't care if PSU beat OSU. Everyone knows OSU is a better team then PSU

    Then they should have beaten them.

    And remember, PSU will get one more game to play than OSU.

  • @wargograw said:

    They are fairly fraudulentish. How many injuries do you guys have Woody?

    LT and CB. QB might be hurt now.

    @mld-woody said:

    LT and CB. QB might be hurt now.

    Ok so not that beat up and only 9-1. The schedule is not that difficult. MSU sucks this year. Haven't played OSU yet. Colorado's had a nice year but come on. They'd have a losing record in 2 or 3 other conferences.

    The only nice wins are PSU and Wisconsin. Solid wins, to be sure. But when the rest of the schedule is tougher, it just tests your depth so much.

    Also, I told some friends during the Michigan-Rutgers game that this ridiculous amount of attention to detail and try-hard in OOC games is going to make them lose a random game they shouldn't. Even Saban has had a ton of cupcake games where they came out slow. I think he talked last year about how a few years back Georgia State came in their house and "ran on us like s**t through a tin horn, man."

    No team can dominate every team on the schedule from start to finish. You're gonna have to look sloppy and win a tight game or two and/or only beat your cupcakes by 20 points.

    Obviously you can't tell your team to play badly and I don't expect Harbaugh to but I think there's a culture of expectation that is a good thing, but can hurt you in situations like these. It's ok to give up a first down.

  • I agree with you Woody that it's going to get complicated if we have an 11-2 PSU with an OSU win and an 11-1 OSU team. OSU should get the nod. I'm a big fan of the eye test myself (and not much of a fan of PSU), but the committee will get tarred and feathered if they use that as a rationale.

  • Just heard on the PFF podcast that this was Michigan's first road game against a B1G team that had won a conference game (don't know how big that sample size is).

  • @mld-woody said:

    LT and CB. QB might be hurt now.

    Ok so not that beat up and only 9-1. The schedule is not that difficult. MSU sucks this year. Haven't played OSU yet. Colorado's had a nice year but come on. They'd have a losing record in 2 or 3 other conferences.

    The only nice wins are PSU and Wisconsin. Solid wins, to be sure. But when the rest of the schedule is tougher, it just tests your depth so much.

    Also, I told some friends during the Michigan-Rutgers game that this ridiculous amount of attention to detail and try-hard in OOC games is going to make them lose a random game they shouldn't. Even Saban has had a ton of cupcake games where they came out slow. I think he talked last year about how a few years back Georgia State came in their house and "ran on us like s**t through a tin horn, man."

    No team can dominate every team on the schedule from start to finish. You're gonna have to look sloppy and win a tight game or two and/or only beat your cupcakes by 20 points.

    Obviously you can't tell your team to play badly and I don't expect Harbaugh to but I think there's a culture of expectation that is a good thing, but can hurt you in situations like these. It's ok to give up a first down.

    @wargograw said:

    Ok so not that beat up and only 9-1. The schedule is not that difficult. MSU sucks this year. Haven't played OSU yet. Colorado's had a nice year but come on. They'd have a losing record in 2 or 3 other conferences.

    The only nice wins are PSU and Wisconsin. Solid wins, to be sure. But when the rest of the schedule is tougher, it just tests your depth so much.

    Also, I told some friends during the Michigan-Rutgers game that this ridiculous amount of attention to detail and try-hard in OOC games is going to make them lose a random game they shouldn't. Even Saban has had a ton of cupcake games where they came out slow. I think he talked last year about how a few years back Georgia State came in their house and "ran on us like s**t through a tin horn, man."

    No team can dominate every team on the schedule from start to finish. You're gonna have to look sloppy and win a tight game or two and/or only beat your cupcakes by 20 points.

    Obviously you can't tell your team to play badly and I don't expect Harbaugh to but I think there's a culture of expectation that is a good thing, but can hurt you in situations like these. It's ok to give up a first down.

    If you look at a win against the current #12 team in the country, and decide it's actually not a good win, then yeah, that hurts our SOS.....

  • Just heard on the PFF podcast that this was Michigan's first road game against a B1G team that had won a conference game (don't know how big that sample size is).

    @wargograw said:

    Just heard on the PFF podcast that this was Michigan's first road game against a B1G team that had won a conference game (don't know how big that sample size is).

    Only MSU and Rutgers before this. MSU has a Big Ten win now.

  • PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU

    @browns149 said:

    PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU

    You think either Rutgers or Mich. St. will beat them? MSU, maybe...but that is a home game for PSU.

  • @wargograw said:

    Ok so not that beat up and only 9-1. The schedule is not that difficult. MSU sucks this year. Haven't played OSU yet. Colorado's had a nice year but come on. They'd have a losing record in 2 or 3 other conferences.

    The only nice wins are PSU and Wisconsin. Solid wins, to be sure. But when the rest of the schedule is tougher, it just tests your depth so much.

    Also, I told some friends during the Michigan-Rutgers game that this ridiculous amount of attention to detail and try-hard in OOC games is going to make them lose a random game they shouldn't. Even Saban has had a ton of cupcake games where they came out slow. I think he talked last year about how a few years back Georgia State came in their house and "ran on us like s**t through a tin horn, man."

    No team can dominate every team on the schedule from start to finish. You're gonna have to look sloppy and win a tight game or two and/or only beat your cupcakes by 20 points.

    Obviously you can't tell your team to play badly and I don't expect Harbaugh to but I think there's a culture of expectation that is a good thing, but can hurt you in situations like these. It's ok to give up a first down.

    If you look at a win against the current #12 team in the country, and decide it's actually not a good win, then yeah, that hurts our SOS.....

    @mld-woody said:

    If you look at a win against the current #12 team in the country, and decide it's actually not a good win, then yeah, that hurts our SOS.....

    No, the Colorado win was a good win. They can still actually win the Pac 12. But they have two tough games ahead of them.

    If the Pac 12 title game were held right now it would be Colorado vs. Washington St. But those 2 actually play this week. Plus Colorado has a tough game vs. Utah. Both of those games though will be played in Boulder.

    With Washington's loss, the Pac 12 title is wide open at this point.

    Washington, Washington St. Colorado, USC and Utah are all still in the running to meet in the title game and to win it.

    But, as interesting as things are out there.....I still say it is odds on favorite that the Pac 12 will not get a team into the Field of Four.

  • @browns149 said:

    PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU

    You think either Rutgers or Mich. St. will beat them? MSU, maybe...but that is a home game for PSU.

    @the-gipper said:

    You think either Rutgers or Mich. St. will beat them? MSU, maybe...but that is a home game for PSU.

    penn state already has 2 losses
  • I just read on ESPN that the closest a 2 loss team made the playoffs was last year. Stanford had 2 losses, they WON the PAC 12 title and only finished 6th in the poll

    No way a 1 loss OSU team finishes outside the top 4. Regardless of what PSU or Wisconsin does