We're already in a serious Constitutional crisis... just wait... if higgardly gets elected..
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Tour translation:
"Silence is Golden"
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Speaking of constitutional crises, if a candidate being under investigation when elected is one, what if a candidate is on trial on multiple cases?
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oh, that's just crazy. I can't take you serously anymore.
Beat you to it...
So, I'm wrong, and they don't respond because they are nice? Where the constitution is silent, the states decide. That's the law of the land and how it should be.
Raised it as a possibility. A possibility plausibly confirmed by your, "So, I'm wrong," opening which says you may not present yourself as being open to other views.
And no need to quote the constitution to me... or more precisely the Bill of Rights' Tenth Amendment.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
When you say, "this or that decision should be left to the states because of the Tenth", you are stating your opinion. Nothing wrong with that, but it is possible you are mistaking your audience's silence with agreement.
What was the topic?
Accomplished? Are you talking about the klusterfuk we call Obamacare and she now calls Hillarycare? Or perhaps greasing the skids for Iran to go nuclear? How about pushing race relations further into the swamp than they've ever been?
I'm having a problem making a list from the Glorious Legacy. Help me out.
Sure... which way did you come in? On a serious note I predicted your disagreement, didn't I.
Obamacare:
For starters start collecting the penalties and plow them into expanded subsidies for those caught in the huge rate jumps. Take the best of the "replace" program... whatever that is... and modify Obamacare... AKA fix it.
The "fix it" argument is mocked by the right, but every major Federal program has in fact been modified over time. Social Security added a Disability Trust. Medicare Part D's "doughnut hole" was closed by Obamacare. Welfare, food stamps, on and on...
Iran Nukes:
The only path it is currently on is one to a peaceful program... a right of every sovereign country BTW... under the watchful eye of the IAEA.
Contrast this with the failed history of constraining North Korea's program.
Race Relations:
I am unaware of any statistical evidence to support your "deeper into the swamp" claim, but if it exists, then you are backing the wrong candidate to reverse that trend.
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So you would prefer to call it eliminating big chunks of Obamacare and replacing it with something that works, which it doesn't work now, is just tinkering? Please.
Bending over for the Iranians the way Jimmy Carter bent over for the Koreans and pretending that it's cool because some ineffectual bunch of jerk offs is overseeing their nuclear program is actually laughable. Who's in charge of that, Hans Blix?
Statistics? To prove that race relations are getting shittier and shittier? G-wiz bud, I guess you could watch the news once in awhile. Maybe there's a station that isn't dedicated to pimping Hillary 24/7.
And if I'm back in the wrong candidate as far as race relations go I'm at a loss to figure out what Donald Trump has done to piss off the black community. I understand how Hillary and the Democrats pacify them. But that's been non productive so far.
WSS
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Call the new health care "ReplacementCare" or "TrumpCare" if it makes you feel better, but the only way insurance is affordable for all is if the pool of insured is big enough. And since Trump has stated he does not want to see exclusions for pre-existing conditions removed, a major feature of Obamacare, the pool has to get bigger.
Bending over is your perception. But as I just wrote in another thread (you'll see it), our abandoning the "deal" will have no impact.
I have stats on race crimes... have posted them before. The slight uptick you are anecdotally detecting "from the news" is insignificant compared to the drop over the last decade.
Opinions on candidates are moot now... we shall see. But I will grant you that if everyone becomes rich and successful in the next four years, you are likely correct.
Sadly our communication divide seems to be deepening, Steve. At least that's my anecdotal take...
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Call the new health care "ReplacementCare" or "TrumpCare" if it makes you feel better, but the only way insurance is affordable for all is if the pool of insured is big enough. And since Trump has stated he does not want to see exclusions for pre-existing conditions removed, a major feature of Obamacare, the pool has to get bigger.
Bending over is your perception. But as I just wrote in another thread (you'll see it), our abandoning the "deal" will have no impact.
I have stats on race crimes... have posted them before. The slight uptick you are anecdotally detecting "from the news" is insignificant compared to the drop over the last decade.
Opinions on candidates are moot now... we shall see. But I will grant you that if everyone becomes rich and successful in the next four years, you are likely correct.
Sadly our communication divide seems to be deepening, Steve. At least that's my anecdotal take...
Call the new health care "ReplacementCare" or "TrumpCare" if it makes you feel better, but the only way insurance is affordable for all is if the pool of insured is big enough. And since Trump has stated he does not want to see exclusions for pre-existing conditions removed, a major feature of Obamacare, the pool has to get bigger.
Trump has also suggested he wants the federal government to negotiate drug prices, which would be another expansion.
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So Tour, what you are saying is it there's nothing that can be done about health care to improve the system and that Obamacare is the pinnacle solution? Well if it's as good as it can possibly ever be right now eliminating it would be a big mistake. If not...
(That would mean anyone who thinks that there are possible improvements are fools correct?)
You tell me there's been no change and race relations? Okay but it seems to most people who watch the news but there are riots and looting on a weekly basis. How about this conspiracy theory... There really is no difference but the liberal media runs the store is with more Vigor to keep the Democrat base worked up?
I don't suppose everyone will become rich and prosperous, because the difference between rich and prosperous people and bums isn't going to change.
And a big part of this election has nothing to do with what will or won't change it's about people who are grumpy and expect a change in government to make a difference. Every few years they realize it didn'the and blame the party in power for not making them Rich tall good-looking strong and clever.
(of course Hillary's promise to make everyone equal no less ridiculous wouldn't you say?)
The deal would be a great thing if you trust the Iranians.
If you do that could be part of the communication devide.

WSS
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and the baloney from obaMao and the socialist dems gets thicker.
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... and the divide grows wider...
Oh well. Think of it this way when Iran finishes their nuclear weapons if you're lucky it will happen under Donald Trump's watch.
Then you can blame him instead of the past 8 years that have led up to it and made it possible. That's how it works on the front page isn't it?
WSS
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... and the divide grows wider...
Oh well. Think of it this way when Iran finishes their nuclear weapons if you're lucky it will happen under Donald Trump's watch.
Then you can blame him instead of the past 8 years that have led up to it and made it possible. That's how it works on the front page isn't it?
WSS
Oh well. Think of it this way when Iran finishes their nuclear weapons if you're lucky it will happen under Donald Trump's watch.
Then you can blame him instead of the past 8 years that have led up to it and made it possible. That's how it works on the front page isn't it?
WSS
That's how it worked with Obama...
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Oh well. Think of it this way when Iran finishes their nuclear weapons if you're lucky it will happen under Donald Trump's watch.
Then you can blame him instead of the past 8 years that have led up to it and made it possible. That's how it works on the front page isn't it?
WSS
That's how it worked with Obama...
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Ok.
How?
WSS
waiting.........waiting...
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Woodys probably referencing the inability of reps to recognize that financial cycles happeniver numerousvyears and obama inherited the 07/08 collapse but its all his fault for slow recovery blah blah blah. But anything that happened when bush was in office is clintons fault. Just like it was carters fault if something didnt go right under reagan
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Ok.
How?
WSS
waiting.........waiting...
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Woodys probably referencing the inability of reps to recognize that financial cycles happeniver numerousvyears and obama inherited the 07/08 collapse but its all his fault for slow recovery blah blah blah. But anything that happened when bush was in office is clintons fault. Just like it was carters fault if something didnt go right under reagan
Woodys probably referencing the inability of reps to recognize that financial cycles happeniver numerousvyears and obama inherited the 07/08 collapse but its all his fault for slow recovery blah blah blah. But anything that happened when bush was in office is clintons fault. Just like it was carters fault if something didnt go right under reagan
More or less this.
There is a ramp down and ramp up regarding the influence each president has on what's going on around him. Obama was being blamed for financial issues that he inherited.
If your guy is the one in office, or your guy is the one that just left, that will determine what you complain about and when.
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Ok.
How?
WSS
waiting.........waiting...
Posted Yesterday, 07:57 PM
calfoxwc, on 16 Nov 2016 - 1:07 PM, said:

waiting.........waiting...
A. You started your crap again, in another thread, woodpecker.
B. I could have waited til 7 pm, dumbass, you only showed up to go "uh...yeah, what cleve said" at 3 til eight.
C. You constantly do the same crap, only worse most of the time. I diid it once, and you go birdsheet.
Take a look in the mirror.
D. You give obamao excuses over eight yrs time, and no excuses for any rep president. but it's okay,
we come to expect the corrupt, self-serving hypocrisy.
1 hour, during work, and you're jumping down my shit? Fuck off
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There hasn't been a Rep President in office since I've been on this board lol
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There hasn't been a Rep President in office since I've been on this board lol
And the Whigs haven't run anybody since I've been on.
WSS
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