Pryor UFA at the end of this year
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PFRumors has story of Pryor maybe looking for a Tavon Austin deal he signed in August. 10.55M/per year, 28.5M in Guarantees. Sashi will also have Crow/ Collins & Paztor looking for a ballooned Cleveland deal.. Always good to strike a deal earlier than later in Cleveland hey Sash?
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I know they were talking at or just before the trade deadline and we're supposed to be close. I wonder what happened with that?
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Sign Paz already. Do it immediately.
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Sign Paz already. Do it immediately.
Sign Paz already. Do it immediately.
Do you really think he is irreplaceable?
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Sign Paz already. Do it immediately.
Do you really think he is irreplaceable?
Do you really think he is irreplaceable?
He's replaceable but why should we? He's a solid player that's improved since joining the browns. He has played alongside Greco enough to have formed some comfort, why disrupt things unnecessarily?
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Yes paz the irreplaceable turnstile...sigh. We absolutely have to sign pryor at all costs. Once we get our qb shit in order he's numero uno go to guy. Hell the kind of receiving corp we're building around pryor is something good qb's around the league take notice of so if we cant do it through the draft....
Anyway, get tjis shit done before he gets poached by other teams. He's are only one true game breaker, the one guy nobody matches up with. Get him signed asap and we can look forward to him, coleman and barnidge being unstoppable once the right qb is found
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Sign Paz already. Do it immediately.
Do you really think he is irreplaceable?
At all costs? A guy that so far has shown only the fly route and the comeback? No... I want him signed, too, but not at all costs.
Give him a four-year-ish deal with a healthy base and guarantees, and, assuming it's allowed under the CBA, a performance package on top of it that triggers a higher base in the after years. A good faith deal with upside for him as his resume and his repertoire expands.
Do you really think he is irreplaceable?
I was going to ask the same thing about Crow. As much as I love him, he has to come at a reasonable price as he's no bell cow.
If you could only sign one, it's a close call, but given his trajectory, I'd lean to Paz... and I never would have thought that two months ago.
Neither is irreplaceable... few players are. So it's all about probability... and cost.
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At all costs? A guy that so far has shown only the fly route and the comeback? No... I want him signed, too, but not at all costs.
Give him a four-year-ish deal with a healthy base and guarantees, and, assuming it's allowed under the CBA, a performance package on top of it that triggers a higher base in the after years. A good faith deal with upside for him as his resume and his repertoire expands.
Do you really think he is irreplaceable?
I was going to ask the same thing about Crow. As much as I love him, he has to come at a reasonable price as he's no bell cow.
If you could only sign one, it's a close call, but given his trajectory, I'd lean to Paz... and I never would have thought that two months ago.
Neither is irreplaceable... few players are. So it's all about probability... and cost.
Give him a four-year-ish deal with a healthy base and guarantees, and, assuming it's allowed under the CBA, a performance package on top of it that triggers a higher base in the after years. A good faith deal with upside for him as his resume and his repertoire expands.
I don't understand why all contracts and structured like this (with injury insurance clauses).
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Do you really think he is irreplaceable?
He's replaceable but why should we? He's a solid player that's improved since joining the browns. He has played alongside Greco enough to have formed some comfort, why disrupt things unnecessarily?
He's replaceable but why should we? He's a solid player that's improved since joining the browns. He has played alongside Greco enough to have formed some comfort, why disrupt things unnecessarily?
Fair enough. Though I am not sure "solid" is accurate. The Scwhartz was solid. Bitonio is solid. Let's just say that he seems a serviceable backup....and should be compensated as such.
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We lose pryor and we might as well join the cfl or arena 2 league. We'll be a place people come to get a name and then bolt. Ifc if he's holding out for some utterly ridiculous sum like 15-20m than no
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I don't care WHAT it takes to keep Pryor, we MUST keep him. He's too important, and he's still going to get better. To me, he's the face of our damn team. Not only did he play college ball in Ohio, but he's a hard worker, doesn't shy away from saying what needs to be said, and he's a legit red zone threat...even when double teamed. This deal needs to get done, like NOW. It's imperative because if he's signed, we can franchise Collins (who obviously doesn't want to be in Cleveland. Why would he?)
Signing Pryor provides us with a legit playmaker, a "heart" guy, and gives us the opportunity to keep our best defender. GET IT DONE, SASHI.
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He's replaceable but why should we? He's a solid player that's improved since joining the browns. He has played alongside Greco enough to have formed some comfort, why disrupt things unnecessarily?
Fair enough. Though I am not sure "solid" is accurate. The Scwhartz was solid. Bitonio is solid. Let's just say that he seems a serviceable backup....and should be compensated as such.
Fair enough. Though I am not sure "solid" is accurate. The Scwhartz was solid. Bitonio is solid. Let's just say that he seems a serviceable backup....and should be compensated as such.
Schwartz was top tier, Bitonio is top tier. Pasztor is not, but is solid enough to not be a worry.
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Fair enough. Though I am not sure "solid" is accurate. The Scwhartz was solid. Bitonio is solid. Let's just say that he seems a serviceable backup....and should be compensated as such.
Schwartz was top tier, Bitonio is top tier. Pasztor is not, but is solid enough to not be a worry.
Schwartz was top tier, Bitonio is top tier. Pasztor is not, but is solid enough to not be a worry.
A solid backup. Backup level talent is what he has shown. Browns need to draft an OC and an OT high.
I have already put my dibs on Elflein of Ohio St. for OC with our 2d second round pick
And I would like OT Ryan Ramcsyk of Wisconsin as the first pick of the second round.
In the first round: Defense.....unless they really think Mitch Tribisky is the guy at QB.
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Schwartz was top tier, Bitonio is top tier. Pasztor is not, but is solid enough to not be a worry.
A solid backup. Backup level talent is what he has shown. Browns need to draft an OC and an OT high.
I have already put my dibs on Elflein of Ohio St. for OC with our 2d second round pick
And I would like OT Ryan Ramcsyk of Wisconsin as the first pick of the second round.
In the first round: Defense.....unless they really think Mitch Tribisky is the guy at QB.
A solid backup.
Per PFF, he has been the #1 RT in the league from week 4 to the present, and the #9 overall tackle. He is not just a backup - he's an extraordinary starter. You are simply wrong. We do not need to draft OT next season.. and especially not a high pick.
Pazstor is than Schwartz.
Too many spots need upgrading to allow him to leave. Any pick used to "upgrade" his position would simply not be as good as him - AND that pick would mean that a different spot which also needs upgrading would not be upgraded from current incompetence.
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PFF is not the oracle on everything, it's based on people watching and grading so surely it's subjective ?
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A solid backup.
Per PFF, he has been the #1 RT in the league from week 4 to the present, and the #9 overall tackle. He is not just a backup - he's an extraordinary starter. You are simply wrong. We do not need to draft OT next season.. and especially not a high pick.
Pazstor is than Schwartz.
Too many spots need upgrading to allow him to leave. Any pick used to "upgrade" his position would simply not be as good as him - AND that pick would mean that a different spot which also needs upgrading would not be upgraded from current incompetence.
Per PFF, he has been the #1 RT in the league from week 4 to the present, and the #9 overall tackle. He is not just a backup - he's an extraordinary starter.
Better than Schwartz.
Too many spots need upgrading to allow him to leave. Any pick used to "upgrade" his position would simply not be as good as him - AND that pick would mean that a different spot which also needs upgrading would not be upgraded from current incompetence.
Seriously? .....that is actually quite amazing. The way our QBs are getting hammered I would never have thunk it. I guess perhaps the problem with our OL then has been the center spot...you know who....and whoever is filling in for Bito..or Greco when he has had to move inside.
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A solid backup.
Per PFF, he has been the #1 RT in the league from week 4 to the present, and the #9 overall tackle. He is not just a backup - he's an extraordinary starter. You are simply wrong. We do not need to draft OT next season.. and especially not a high pick.
Pazstor is than Schwartz.
Too many spots need upgrading to allow him to leave. Any pick used to "upgrade" his position would simply not be as good as him - AND that pick would mean that a different spot which also needs upgrading would not be upgraded from current incompetence.
Per PFF, he has been the #1 RT in the league from week 4 to the present, and the #9 overall tackle. He is not just a backup - he's an extraordinary starter. You are simply wrong. We do not need to draft OT next season.. and especially not a high pick.
Pazstor is than Schwartz.
Too many spots need upgrading to allow him to leave. Any pick used to "upgrade" his position would simply not be as good as him - AND that pick would mean that a different spot which also needs upgrading would not be upgraded from current incompetence.
PFF can be on sometimes or really off. I have no idea what they are seeing in Pasztor.
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Per PFF, he has been the #1 RT in the league from week 4 to the present, and the #9 overall tackle. He is not just a backup - he's an extraordinary starter. You are simply wrong. We do not need to draft OT next season.. and especially not a high pick.
Pazstor is than Schwartz.
Too many spots need upgrading to allow him to leave. Any pick used to "upgrade" his position would simply not be as good as him - AND that pick would mean that a different spot which also needs upgrading would not be upgraded from current incompetence.
PFF can be on sometimes or really off. I have no idea what they are seeing in Pasztor.
PFF can be on sometimes or really off. I have no idea what they are seeing in Pasztor.
A page back I mentioned the biggie. His run blocking grade really inflates his overall stat. Dude is a tank. Yes his pass pro has gotten better to the point of average with room for improvement.
I'm willing to even say we don't necessarily need to draft RT high this year. Pass rusher, C and DB are first priorities.
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Am i really the only one who understands the folks at PFF are trolling us so hard?
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Like they're trolling us so good im almost starting to like them for it
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