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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Would Trump have won the GOP nomination if he hadn't switched his position on abortion from pro choice to pro life. No way.

    Trump did the age old lip service to the evangelicals and has zero plan of actually doing anything about abortion. No politician will but they keep falling for it because it is their one issue.

    We will never know if Trump's stance change caused him to win. For all anyone knows, Christians still would have chosen Trump for the same reasons they looked passed him being the "grab them by the pussy" guy.

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    @logicisforsquares said:

    Trump did the age old lip service to the evangelicals and has zero plan of actually doing anything about abortion. No politician will but they keep falling for it because it is their one issue.

    We will never know if Trump's stance change caused him to win. For all anyone knows, Christians still would have chosen Trump for the same reasons they looked passed him being the "grab them by the pussy" guy.

    Trump could literally have said "I don't like Jesus. Real men don't get crucified" and some "christians" would still have picked him because he's not Hillary.

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      @oldbrownsfan said:

      Would Trump have won the GOP nomination if he hadn't switched his position on abortion from pro choice to pro life. No way.

      Trump did the age old lip service to the evangelicals and has zero plan of actually doing anything about abortion. No politician will but they keep falling for it because it is their one issue.

      We will never know if Trump's stance change caused him to win. For all anyone knows, Christians still would have chosen Trump for the same reasons they looked passed him being the "grab them by the pussy" guy.

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      @logicisforsquares said:

      Trump did the age old lip service to the evangelicals and has zero plan of actually doing anything about abortion. No politician will but they keep falling for it because it is their one issue.

      We will never know if Trump's stance change caused him to win. For all anyone knows, Christians still would have chosen Trump for the same reasons they looked passed him being the "grab them by the pussy" guy.

      Since Roe v Wade no congress or president will make a law that abortion is illegal and they cannot because of the Supreme Court. The problem with Roe v Wade and even pro abortion attorneys will admit this is the Supreme Court totally made up a ruling to support the decision with nothing in the constitution to back them up. So the hope is getting constitutional justices appointed who could overturn Roe v Wade. Other than congress trying to place some restrictions on late term abortions or partial birth abortion and other aspects that is all they can do.

      Do republicans play games on issues such as abortion as a wedge issue to get votes. Absolutely which is why I consider myself a conservative and not a republican. For example we have a republican president, republican Senate and a republican House and let's see if Planned Parenthood gets de-funded?

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        @logicisforsquares said:

        Trump did the age old lip service to the evangelicals and has zero plan of actually doing anything about abortion. No politician will but they keep falling for it because it is their one issue.

        We will never know if Trump's stance change caused him to win. For all anyone knows, Christians still would have chosen Trump for the same reasons they looked passed him being the "grab them by the pussy" guy.

        Trump could literally have said "I don't like Jesus. Real men don't get crucified" and some "christians" would still have picked him because he's not Hillary.

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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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        @gftchris said:

        Trump could literally have said "I don't like Jesus. Real men don't get crucified" and some "christians" would still have picked him because he's not Hillary.

        It's always the lesser of two evils for me. A pro choice Trump would have been a bridge too far though even against Hillary Clinton. I would have written in a candidate. I have no doubt millions of other Christians would do the same and Trump didn't have millions of votes to spare in this election as he may not even have won the popular vote.

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          @bbedward said:

          The GOP has to give up the social conservative Bible thumping ideas. People will grow up to be more fiscally conservative, but they won't be more socially conservative.

          Trump is a good step, as long as nobody talks about Pence.

          Would Trump have won the GOP nomination if he hadn't switched his position on abortion from pro choice to pro life? No way.

          Pence proved his worth in the debate with Kaine where he destroyed Kaine in the VP debate.

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          @oldbrownsfan said:

          Would Trump have won the GOP nomination if he hadn't switched his position on abortion from pro choice to pro life? No way.

          Pence proved his worth in the debate with Kaine where he destroyed Kaine in the VP debate.

          No, but when millennials become the majority things will be different.

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            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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            But could you imagine any other gop candidate appointing a gay guy to his transition team, having gay speakers at the rnc that talked about being gay, and holding up a rainbow lgbtqafop flag

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              He really wasn't my choice. But given A or B.... and A is

              > than B by a huge margin..

              I voted for A happily.

              Stop the corruption, protect our Constitution (especially 2nd Amendment), stop

              the do nothing game playing and cowering in fear of the extreme leftwing marxist brownshirt

              obaMaoTseTongue sombeitch.

              Trump, with warts, was the ONLY choice to save our country from ruin. The mindless left can take their

              glorious vision of world conquest and shove it.

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                @oldbrownsfan said:

                Would Trump have won the GOP nomination if he hadn't switched his position on abortion from pro choice to pro life? No way.

                Pence proved his worth in the debate with Kaine where he destroyed Kaine in the VP debate.

                No, but when millennials become the majority things will be different.

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                @bbedward said:

                No, but when millennials become the majority things will be different.

                If the special snowflakes I see on college campuses today with their safe spaces and PC lunacy are the future of the country we are in deep serious trouble.

                And then this, from the University of Michigan 😁 : "There was a steady flow of students entering Ms. Boynton's office Wednesday. They spent the day sprawled around the center, playing with Play-Doh and coloring in coloring books, as they sought comfort and distraction."

                college-students-hide-from-trump-in-safe

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  That you "see in college campuses", or that you read about on right biased websites?

                  The burning desire of some on here to paint all of college with a brush of the worst parts of liberal arts in attempt to discredit academics never gets old ...

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    That you "see in college campuses", or that you read about on right biased websites?

                    The burning desire of some on here to paint all of college with a brush of the worst parts of liberal arts in attempt to discredit academics never gets old ...

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    That you "see in college campuses", or that you read about on right biased websites?

                    The burning desire of some on here to paint all of college with a brush of the worst parts of liberal arts in attempt to discredit academics never gets old ...

                    Between you, me, ed, cysko, osiris, basically everyone else under 40 that could maybe called millennials, is anyone actually anything close to an arts major? Like, English lit, languages, humanities, anything like that?

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                      That you "see in college campuses", or that you read about on right biased websites?

                      The burning desire of some on here to paint all of college with a brush of the worst parts of liberal arts in attempt to discredit academics never gets old ...

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      That you "see in college campuses", or that you read about on right biased websites?

                      The burning desire of some on here to paint all of college with a brush of the worst parts of liberal arts in attempt to discredit academics never gets old ...

                      Sorry Woody it is what it is. I could post links of this type of lunacy on college campuses all day long:

                      From a Course on Miley Cyrus to ‘Identity-Based Housing,’ Examples of Lunacy on College Campuses

                      http://dailysignal.com/2016/08/24/from-a-course-on-miley-cyrus-to-identity-based-housing-examples-of-lunacy-on-college-campuses/

                      College Campus Lunacy

                      https://www.creators.com/read/walter-williams/08/16/college-campus-lunacy

                      2015’s most absurd examples of liberal lunacy on college campuses

                      https://www.allenbwest.com/analytical-economist/2015s-most-absurd-examples-of-liberal-lunacy-on-college-campuses

                      The Lunacy of Universities

                      https://steemit.com/writing/@davewmcdowell/the-lunacy-of-universities

                      Behold, the Lunacy of the Modern University

                      http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/17356/

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                        I'm not saying it doesn't exist. Just that:

                        - you aren't "seeing" it. Sites that know their audience are finding it, making it look a little worse, and getting you to click on it

                        - this isn't the norm throughout college academics. Using this to discredit the institution as a whole doesn't work.

                        - I'm sure I could dig through those links and pick out what's incorrect or not even that bad.

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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          I need to see video of collee kids playing with play doh and coloring books or it didnt happen. I highly doubt it, injust do. Now using the election as an excuse to get high and/or drunk.......i can see that

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                            I need to see video of collee kids playing with play doh and coloring books or it didnt happen. I highly doubt it, injust do. Now using the election as an excuse to get high and/or drunk.......i can see that

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                            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            I need to see video of collee kids playing with play doh and coloring books or it didnt happen. I highly doubt it, injust do. Now using the election as an excuse to get high and/or drunk.......i can see that

                            The Reason College Students Are Using Coloring Books

                            The recent antics at the nation’s universities have led people to expect almost anything from academia. There are safe spaces that resemble adult playpens where students can shield themselves from “microaggressions.” There are trigger warnings to help students protect their politically-correct sensitivities from free speech. And now… there are college student coloring books.

                            That’s right. College coloring books with colored pencils or felt pens are now the rage as administrators scramble to find ways to help students de-stress. Ironically, students who break all the rules at campus protests find solace in staying within the lines. The old-fashioned coloring book, perhaps one of the few undigitized things left, is going viral. Students, who try to pass themselves off as twenty-one-year-olds to drink alcohol, are eager to assume the role of five-year-olds when it is time to bring out the crayons.

                            This is not a marketing fad like the adult coloring book rage. Rather, official university policy is fueling the student coloring experience. These are not isolated colleges but campuses nationwide, including Ivy League schools. While there is yet to appear a Coloring 101 course, university employees are the ones handing out the coloring books and holding “coloring events” on campus.

                            American University, for example, provided coloring sheets on campus, explaining on its Facebook page how coloring “can help with a number of emotional and mental health issues.” The Facebook page of University of California San Diego reported on “De-Stress Coloring Nights” before finals last semester with all materials provided. In 2015, Brown University offered coloring books (and Play-Doh) in all its “safe space” rooms. The University of Missouri handed out an official Mizzou Coloring Book at its student union. The University of Nebraska-Omaha organizes regular DeStress Fests at the university library with large turnouts. All of this is done in the name of therapy.

                            However, college officials have got it wrong in offering this therapy. The purpose of university education is not meant to be therapeutic but formative. The university should concerned with the pursuit of truth, and not the stressful acquiring of knowledge and facts for future careers and debt repayment.

                            The university is meant to form character in students and prepare them for adulthood and family life. Students should be exposed to a philosophy of education in which they are taught to confront reality and overcome obstacles they will find when they live in the real world. The university should be a place of culture where the classic insights of the great thinkers of the past can benefit the present. College should mark a farewell to childhood and childish things. It should be the exhilarating embrace of independence and adult responsibilities.

                            Instead, many modern universities have adopted a philosophy in which the college coloring book is but a sad sign of the times. It is the fruit of a Hollywood culture that resists the natural need to grow up and assume responsibility. Many students aim to live forever-young lives of frenetic intemperance, in which they are encouraged to desire everything, instantly, and effortlessly. They defer major decisions about what they are to do with their lives, and see college as a mere extension of their adolescence… or perhaps now a regression to kindergarten. When young people fail to live up to the responsibilities proper to their age group, they will indeed become stressed. Hence, the recourse to the therapeutic coloring books.

                            However, the coloring book issue is also symptomatic of a university system that has lost touch with its purpose.

                            The chief object of the university should be the teaching of truth and its applications to life. Modern universities have strayed from this great mission largely because so many believe there is no truth. Indeed, truth has become whatever one believes it to be at the moment. Values are whatever one happens to value, and a person is whatever he/she/it self-identifies as.

                            In short: Everything is fluid, constructed, and subjective. In modern academia, there is no objective truth or any applications of that truth. There are only isolated experiences disconnected from truth. Students are immersed in what Notre Dame Professor Brad Gregory has called “the kingdom of whatever.” The university has gone from the search for eternal truth to the pursuit of personal experiences, from the consideration of forever to the acceptance of “whatever.”

                            When education becomes “whatever,” it works against its purposes of character formation and the teaching of truth. It will naturally frustrate and cause anxiety. Instead of finding a divinely-ordered universe bristling with variety and purpose, students are presented a sterile, godless universe devoid of meaning. Is it any wonder that they are offered fantasy-filled coloring books in which they might color their own “whatever” worlds?

                            Of course, the descent from classics to coloring books appears absurd to most people with common sense. It seems like a bad dream in need of a rude awakening. But it is not a dream. It is happening. The tragedy is that students will find out all too soon that the only way to deal with life’s vicissitudes is to confront reality not to color it away.

                            --

                            This article was republished with permission from the Imaginative Conservative.

                            http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/reason-college-students-are-using-coloring-books

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              Sweeping generalizations about colleges, college students, and millennials. Great stuff.

                              You know what would happen if someone in one of my engineering courses asked for a coloring book or to delay an exam because of the election? They'd get laughed out of the building.

                              Not to mention, Michigan (rightfully) cancelled their play doh thing.

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                                Sweeping generalizations about colleges, college students, and millennials. Great stuff.

                                You know what would happen if someone in one of my engineering courses asked for a coloring book or to delay an exam because of the election? They'd get laughed out of the building.

                                Not to mention, Michigan (rightfully) cancelled their play doh thing.

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                                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Sweeping generalizations about colleges, college students, and millennials. Great stuff.

                                You know what would happen if someone in one of my engineering courses asked for a coloring book or to delay an exam because of the election? They'd get laughed out of the building.

                                Not to mention, Michigan (rightfully) cancelled their play doh thing.

                                There is too much of this being reported nationwide to brush it off as being isolated incidents.

                                Also look at all the students protesting a legitimate election in a democracy. What are they wanting to accomplish? A do-over? It doesn't work that way. And for all the hand wringing and sky is falling drama coming out of the left with Trump's election in four years he will be evaluated on his record and there will be another vote.

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  That you "see in college campuses", or that you read about on right biased websites?

                                  The burning desire of some on here to paint all of college with a brush of the worst parts of liberal arts in attempt to discredit academics never gets old ...

                                  Between you, me, ed, cysko, osiris, basically everyone else under 40 that could maybe called millennials, is anyone actually anything close to an arts major? Like, English lit, languages, humanities, anything like that?

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                                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                  @gftchris said:

                                  Between you, me, ed, cysko, osiris, basically everyone else under 40 that could maybe called millennials, is anyone actually anything close to an arts major? Like, English lit, languages, humanities, anything like that?

                                  Nope.

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Sweeping generalizations about colleges, college students, and millennials. Great stuff.

                                    You know what would happen if someone in one of my engineering courses asked for a coloring book or to delay an exam because of the election? They'd get laughed out of the building.

                                    Not to mention, Michigan (rightfully) cancelled their play doh thing.

                                    There is too much of this being reported nationwide to brush it off as being isolated incidents.

                                    Also look at all the students protesting a legitimate election in a democracy. What are they wanting to accomplish? A do-over? It doesn't work that way. And for all the hand wringing and sky is falling drama coming out of the left with Trump's election in four years he will be evaluated on his record and there will be another vote.

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    There is too much of this being reported nationwide to brush it off as being isolated incidents.

                                    Also look at all the students protesting a legitimate election in a democracy. What are they wanting to accomplish? A do-over? It doesn't work that way. And for all the hand wringing and sky is falling drama coming out of the left with Trump's election in four years he will be evaluated on his record and there will be another vote.

                                    The "news" sources you frequent actively look for this stuff to constantly being it up. It makes it look much worse than it is without ever giving time to the counterpoint. You think liberal media made Trump look worse than he is, right? Same principle.

                                    And again, the guy you voted for called for protests when Obama was elected in 2008. Just for some perspective

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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      That you "see in college campuses", or that you read about on right biased websites?

                                      The burning desire of some on here to paint all of college with a brush of the worst parts of liberal arts in attempt to discredit academics never gets old ...

                                      Between you, me, ed, cysko, osiris, basically everyone else under 40 that could maybe called millennials, is anyone actually anything close to an arts major? Like, English lit, languages, humanities, anything like that?

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      @gftchris said:

                                      Between you, me, ed, cysko, osiris, basically everyone else under 40 that could maybe called millennials, is anyone actually anything close to an arts major? Like, English lit, languages, humanities, anything like that?

                                      I took 3 credits of humanities at Michigan. That's it.

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                                        @gftchris said:

                                        Between you, me, ed, cysko, osiris, basically everyone else under 40 that could maybe called millennials, is anyone actually anything close to an arts major? Like, English lit, languages, humanities, anything like that?

                                        I took 3 credits of humanities at Michigan. That's it.

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        I took 3 credits of humanities at Michigan. That's it.

                                        I had to take an art history and a religious studies course.

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          I took 3 credits of humanities at Michigan. That's it.

                                          I had to take an art history and a religious studies course.

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                                          @logicisforsquares said:

                                          I had to take an art history and a religious studies course.

                                          We needed 16 credits of HU/SS, at least 6 humanities and at least 3 at 300 level or higher.

                                          AP credits covered most of it, luckily. It allowed me to work one winter semester for Honda

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