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  • beare B One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    B beare wrote on last edited by
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    theres several big problem s

    1) the o line is horid

    2) all our qbs hold the ball long enough you could eat lunch before they throw it

    3) hue seems in over his head

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      Our team just sucks everywhere. I don't think you can boil it down to basic problems.

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      @bbedward said:

      Our team just sucks everywhere. I don't think you can boil it down to basic problems.

      well, there is that...right through to the place kicking....but c'mon, you probably watched the game...the Steelers drove the ball right down the field on us. No problems getting first downs. 2nd and 9, just a running play needed for a 1st down. If they want to pass, they can do that cos our guys just dance with the OL. Nassib can do absolutely nothing out there.

      While we're on offense, the D can run the same blitz all day. It works every time. It's brand new to our OL every time.

      Erving: Freaking unbelievable...after drawing a holding penalty, he fakes HIMSELF out by double clutching the snap.

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        Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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        Another problem that has nothing to do with skill or scheme....HEART

        While the team didn't appear to quit, it pisses me off that nobody retaliates after a cheap-shot or late hit personal foul. They should have went after Timmons after his hit on Kessler, and there were a few other instances.

        Being beat because of a lack of talent is one thing. Don't let a division rival get away with disrespecting your team.

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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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          The defensive scheme is garbage also. Up until they blitzed on back to back 3rd downs they had NO pressure. They don't cover rb's at all. On 4th and 3 they drop coverage back to 6 yards. The RB has 5 yards before he has to make someone miss, and they usually do

          You can keep saying the talent is lacking, and it is, but the coaches are NOT putting the guys in positions to make plays either

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            Another problem that has nothing to do with skill or scheme....HEART

            While the team didn't appear to quit, it pisses me off that nobody retaliates after a cheap-shot or late hit personal foul. They should have went after Timmons after his hit on Kessler, and there were a few other instances.

            Being beat because of a lack of talent is one thing. Don't let a division rival get away with disrespecting your team.

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            OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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            @bob806 said:

            Another problem that has nothing to do with skill or scheme....HEART

            .......

            Being beat because of a lack of talent is one thing. Don't let a division rival get away with disrespecting your team.

            Yeah, there's that too. Most evident I think was when Tom Brady ran for a first down, into our bench, and did the 'First Down' thing with a yell. FROM OUR BENCH and NOBODY did anything. - I was quite disappointed in our 'team character' at that point.

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              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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              What are all our WR's doing to get open? could lead too every QB we got to hold the ball? The last time we saw a guy just trust the route & throw it to the spot, Sorry to say it but JM & Benji for TD's. Tits & Raiders like week 3&5 last season? That's Just F'n 😡 THROW THE RECEIVER OPEN..ugg we got no QB to trust that. Great, 2 more problems

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                What are all our WR's doing to get open? could lead too every QB we got to hold the ball? The last time we saw a guy just trust the route & throw it to the spot, Sorry to say it but JM & Benji for TD's. Tits & Raiders like week 3&5 last season? That's Just F'n 😡 THROW THE RECEIVER OPEN..ugg we got no QB to trust that. Great, 2 more problems

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                @gumby73 said:

                What are all our WR's doing to get open? could lead too every QB we got to hold the ball? The last time we saw a guy just trust the route & throw it to the spot, Sorry to say it but JM & Benji for TD's. Tits & Raiders like week 3&5 last season? That's Just F'n 😡 THROW THE RECEIVER OPEN..ugg we got no QB to trust that. Great, 2 more problems

                Ya. There are 19 things wrong with our offense, and only 11 players to blame.

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                  Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                  I agree Pryor is more than anyone predicted! He gets open and fights for the 50/50 balls. So Hue plays McCown and gets Pryor killed!

                  Play Hogan the rest of the year! At this point who cares? Kessler holds onto to the ball and he's no Dak Prescott! At least Hogan can scramble!

                  But Hue won't play Hogan so there's absolutely no point in watching this joke any longer!

                  DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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                    I agree Pryor is more than anyone predicted! He gets open and fights for the 50/50 balls. So Hue plays McCown and gets Pryor killed!

                    Play Hogan the rest of the year! At this point who cares? Kessler holds onto to the ball and he's no Dak Prescott! At least Hogan can scramble!

                    But Hue won't play Hogan so there's absolutely no point in watching this joke any longer!

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                    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                    @opal312 said:

                    I agree Pryor is more than anyone predicted! He gets open and fights for the 50/50 balls. So Hue plays McCown and gets Pryor killed!

                    Play Hogan the rest of the year! At this point who cares? Kessler holds onto to the ball and he's no Dak Prescott! At least Hogan can scramble!

                    But Hue won't play Hogan so there's absolutely no point in watching this joke any longer!

                    What do you mean "No point?"

                    RG3 will be back after the bye week

                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                      You want to know our basic problem? A FUCKING QB! Without a QB capable of being consistently good week to week we'll never be relevant!

                      YOU KNOW WHATS REALLY SAD? BIG GAY has tied the FIRSTENERGY Stadium record for wins with today's cluster fuck!

                      I don't get sucked off enough, that's a problem. What this team has accomplished is nothing short of a disaster.

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                        @opal312 said:

                        I agree Pryor is more than anyone predicted! He gets open and fights for the 50/50 balls. So Hue plays McCown and gets Pryor killed!

                        Play Hogan the rest of the year! At this point who cares? Kessler holds onto to the ball and he's no Dak Prescott! At least Hogan can scramble!

                        But Hue won't play Hogan so there's absolutely no point in watching this joke any longer!

                        What do you mean "No point?"

                        RG3 will be back after the bye week

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                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                        @browns149 said:

                        What do you mean "No point?"

                        RG3 will be back after the bye week

                        That should be funny for about 10 minutes.

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                          MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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                          assuming we all knew this would be a down season....lets agree no one knew we'd suck this bad...

                          My biggest concerns are that the team is NOT improving or getting any better.....which is the one thing we were all supposed to banking on...and watching as the season progressed...

                          And.....even though they are getting massive opportunities to play....and, all at the expense of winning....the rookies are not seizing the moment.....none(zero) are excelling or showing strong....Ogbah looks decent.....the rest?.....not much so far....

                          so 1 is doing swell.....13 others are basically fair at best or totally floundering.....

                          these 2 things are definitely worrisome....

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                            @browns149 said:

                            What do you mean "No point?"

                            RG3 will be back after the bye week

                            That should be funny for about 10 minutes.

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                            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                            @tiamat63 said:

                            That should be funny for about 10 minutes.

                            That is the best post of the day. KUDOS!!!!
                            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                            • MudflyM Mudfly

                              assuming we all knew this would be a down season....lets agree no one knew we'd suck this bad...

                              My biggest concerns are that the team is NOT improving or getting any better.....which is the one thing we were all supposed to banking on...and watching as the season progressed...

                              And.....even though they are getting massive opportunities to play....and, all at the expense of winning....the rookies are not seizing the moment.....none(zero) are excelling or showing strong....Ogbah looks decent.....the rest?.....not much so far....

                              so 1 is doing swell.....13 others are basically fair at best or totally floundering.....

                              these 2 things are definitely worrisome....

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                              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                              @mudfly said:

                              assuming we all knew this would be a down season....lets agree no one knew we'd suck this bad...

                              My biggest concerns are that the team is NOT improving or getting any better.....which is the one thing we were all supposed to banking on...and watching as the season progressed...

                              And.....even though they are getting massive opportunities to play....and, all at the expense of winning....the rookies are not seizing the moment.....none(zero) are excelling or showing strong....Ogbah looks decent.....the rest?.....not much so far....

                              so 1 is doing swell.....13 others are basically fair at best or totally floundering.....

                              these 2 things are definitely worrisome....

                              Its also worrisome that they kept all these bad rookies and let better players go.

                              I know they wanted to gut the team, it gives them more time in their jobs, but DAMN

                              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                Some better players wanted to go, refused to stay.

                                Some veterans weren't all in trying to win.

                                I see a young team with a lack of talent on the oline, secondary.

                                I like the offense structure, they don't have the players.

                                This defense won't work, even if they accumulate terrific first round draft picks

                                across the entire defense. It doesn't work - vanilla - the secondary is a sieve,

                                it needs a few fast star linebackers. The Browns loose zone is a pitch and catch

                                playground game. Gotta love Joe Haden, but I think he's lost a half-step maybe - he needs

                                help, and Kindred is a fine player, but young, and that's that. Nothing wrong with Hue, or the offense

                                staff. The defense doesnt make sense. Seems like it is progressively getting worse, as in, teams know

                                how to defeat it game after game...

                                although, it makes no sense to blitz because of a lack of talent. It's hopeless to defend the passing game.

                                Bout time to draft Adams or Hooker in the first round, a star lb, three cb's and a center. Irving, Paztor and

                                Greco can't be first string next year. Those three were a disaster. Worse. Truth is,

                                they also need to draft a big power rb. Duke is awesome, but fought like hell and had serious trouble

                                with the pass rush, with the qb's holding onto the ball forever.

                                and a qb. I still don't get RGIII, maybe he'll stay healthy and shine next year with three new players on the oline...

                                but I just don't know. I think if Trubisky was there in the second round, I'd serously consider getting him on the roster,

                                or some other qb that hasn't surfaced yet, may come to the NFL as a jr.

                                The Browns never quit, Shelton and the dline kicked some ass, the lb play was often slow, the secondary is toast

                                with some third string players starting...

                                Need some great FA signings and a great, 'nother smart draft. Kessler will turn out to be a good back up,

                                that's about it. McCown is a hero, tough guy, but he will retire. ?

                                The upsdie it, they play as a team, but their serious weaknesses in skill level overall are taken advantage of

                                in the second halves of games more and more.

                                Horton needs to hear a Hoo.

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                                  Horton shut down the Pittsburgh triplets today for a half. It ain't scheme.

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                                    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                    We are not the only ones upset with our OL. TP can't stand it anymore. Throws it on management.

                                    http://deadspin.com/terrelle-pryor-calls-out-browns-offensive-line-after-co-1789196701

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                                      We are not the only ones upset with our OL. TP can't stand it anymore. Throws it on management.

                                      http://deadspin.com/terrelle-pryor-calls-out-browns-offensive-line-after-co-1789196701

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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      We are not the only ones upset with our OL. TP can't stand it anymore. Throws it on management.

                                      http://deadspin.com/terrelle-pryor-calls-out-browns-offensive-line-after-co-1789196701

                                      ......wonder where he'll be playing next year.

                                      Mudfly put it quite well. We were expecting that, at this later point of the season, we would start seeing our young players 'get the hang of it'. That isn't evident however. Not even on defense, where they get to play so much of the game.

                                      The multitude of WR's we drafted have had little impact We're blaming our QB's for holding onto the ball too long...but are the receivers really to blame? (I think Kessler is a little slow to recognize that the receiver is open and misses opportunities also)

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                                        You want to know our basic problem? A FUCKING QB! Without a QB capable of being consistently good week to week we'll never be relevant!

                                        YOU KNOW WHATS REALLY SAD? BIG GAY has tied the FIRSTENERGY Stadium record for wins with today's cluster fuck!

                                        I don't get sucked off enough, that's a problem. What this team has accomplished is nothing short of a disaster.

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                                        B Buck The Frowns wrote on last edited by
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                                        @dabrowns said:

                                        You want to know our basic problem? A FUCKING QB! Without a QB capable of being consistently good week to week we'll never be relevant!

                                        YOU KNOW WHATS REALLY SAD? BIG GAY has tied the FIRSTENERGY Stadium record for wins with today's cluster fuck!

                                        I don't get sucked off enough, that's a problem. What this team has accomplished is nothing short of a disaster.

                                        He also grew up a Browns fan and actually wanted to be drafted by them, was pissed when he wasn't. He has been beating up on the Browns ever since. Maybe it is a sports curse, like the Curse of Rocky Colavito (Indians traded slugger in his prime, team sucked forever) ,Curse of the Bambino ( owner of the Red Sox needed money to invest in No No Nannette on Broadway, sold Babe Ruth to Yankees, Sox sucked forever) Curse of Syd Thrift (Pirates mgmt fired GM after he put together a decent team in a short time, Pirates sucked for years after), etc. Many examples of the sports gods punishing teams for doing stupid things.

                                        (Sarcasm alert) Anyway the Browns have two first round picks next year. What could go wrong? (end sarcasm)

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                                          We are not the only ones upset with our OL. TP can't stand it anymore. Throws it on management.

                                          http://deadspin.com/terrelle-pryor-calls-out-browns-offensive-line-after-co-1789196701

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                                          flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          We are not the only ones upset with our OL. TP can't stand it anymore. Throws it on management.

                                          http://deadspin.com/terrelle-pryor-calls-out-browns-offensive-line-after-co-1789196701

                                          That'll be why he ends up in Green Bay
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