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  • domcucch1994 D
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    D domcucch1994 wrote on last edited by
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    With this season already in the books for us, it is time to talk Free Agency.

    The biggest concern of ours is to sure up our Oline.

    We can sign Ryan Schrader from Atlanta and Kevin Zeitler from Cincinnatti to sure up the right side of our line.

    Both of these guys are studs and are in their prime.

    JT, Bitonio, Erving, Zeitler, and Schrader would give us a very good oline.

    Any suggestions for other FA pickups the Browns need this offseason?

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      Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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      The fact you still have Erving on that list and then said the words "very good oline" is laughable.

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        The fact you still have Erving on that list and then said the words "very good oline" is laughable.

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        @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

        The fact you still have Erving on that list and then said the words "very good oline" is laughable.

        Ok well then we draft a C?

        I'm not a fan of him either but the idiots in charge let Mack go so....

        You want Greco as C then?

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          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

          The fact you still have Erving on that list and then said the words "very good oline" is laughable.

          Ok well then we draft a C?

          I'm not a fan of him either but the idiots in charge let Mack go so....

          You want Greco as C then?

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          @domcucch1994 said:

          Ok well then we draft a C?

          I'm not a fan of him either but the idiots in charge let Mack go so....

          You want Greco as C then?

          I'd put RG3 at center before Erving.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            Just have to convince good players in their prime to come here

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              If Erving is still starter next year I want the FO gone.

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                jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                Supposing we're 0-16, or even 1-15...attracting free agents to our little disaster will take either gigantic dollars, or severe mental instability. You want some good news? In the "best case scenario" department, it's possible that Austin Reiter (sp?) could be our center. We're getting Joel Bitonio back. We have Joe Thomas. That's not a bad start. We have some other players on the roster that are at least...serviceable. Greco, Drango, Pasztor...all decent. We'll draft some depth, and hopefully that will help. Cam Erving...well...he'll be on the bench. Reiter only played one game, and although it was a solid effort, Browns fans are too smart to think he's the "for sure" solution at center. However, it's definitely possible.

                There's probably 20 other teams in the NFL that want to use the next offseason to bolster their OL, so we'll have our work cut out for us. As we're all aware of, we're projected to have four of the top 50 picks. It's safe to say that ONE of those picks will be used on a position on our OL. I'd love to sit here and tell you that this draft is stocked with OL talent, but it's completely the opposite. We'll have to find an immediate starter, and that player will have to step in pretty much right away.

                Here's to hoping...

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                  Supposing we're 0-16, or even 1-15...attracting free agents to our little disaster will take either gigantic dollars, or severe mental instability. You want some good news? In the "best case scenario" department, it's possible that Austin Reiter (sp?) could be our center. We're getting Joel Bitonio back. We have Joe Thomas. That's not a bad start. We have some other players on the roster that are at least...serviceable. Greco, Drango, Pasztor...all decent. We'll draft some depth, and hopefully that will help. Cam Erving...well...he'll be on the bench. Reiter only played one game, and although it was a solid effort, Browns fans are too smart to think he's the "for sure" solution at center. However, it's definitely possible.

                  There's probably 20 other teams in the NFL that want to use the next offseason to bolster their OL, so we'll have our work cut out for us. As we're all aware of, we're projected to have four of the top 50 picks. It's safe to say that ONE of those picks will be used on a position on our OL. I'd love to sit here and tell you that this draft is stocked with OL talent, but it's completely the opposite. We'll have to find an immediate starter, and that player will have to step in pretty much right away.

                  Here's to hoping...

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                  @jiggins7919 said:

                  Supposing we're 0-16, or even 1-15...attracting free agents to our little disaster will take either gigantic dollars, or severe mental instability. You want some good news? In the "best case scenario" department, it's possible that Austin Reiter (sp?) could be our center. We're getting Joel Bitonio back. We have Joe Thomas. That's not a bad start. We have some other players on the roster that are at least...serviceable. Greco, Drango, Pasztor...all decent. We'll draft some depth, and hopefully that will help. Cam Erving...well...he'll be on the bench. Reiter only played one game, and although it was a solid effort, Browns fans are too smart to think he's the "for sure" solution at center. However, it's definitely possible.

                  There's probably 20 other teams in the NFL that want to use the next offseason to bolster their OL, so we'll have our work cut out for us. As we're all aware of, we're projected to have four of the top 50 picks. It's safe to say that ONE of those picks will be used on a position on our OL. I'd love to sit here and tell you that this draft is stocked with OL talent, but it's completely the opposite. We'll have to find an immediate starter, and that player will have to step in pretty much right away.

                  Here's to hoping...

                  I believe Olineman would come here simply because they'd be playing next to Joe Thomas, future HoF'er.

                  Even signing one of those that I mentoned like Zeiter or Schrader, is better than none.

                  We also need to get Eric Berry to make our secondary less laughable..

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                    @jiggins7919 said:

                    Supposing we're 0-16, or even 1-15...attracting free agents to our little disaster will take either gigantic dollars, or severe mental instability. You want some good news? In the "best case scenario" department, it's possible that Austin Reiter (sp?) could be our center. We're getting Joel Bitonio back. We have Joe Thomas. That's not a bad start. We have some other players on the roster that are at least...serviceable. Greco, Drango, Pasztor...all decent. We'll draft some depth, and hopefully that will help. Cam Erving...well...he'll be on the bench. Reiter only played one game, and although it was a solid effort, Browns fans are too smart to think he's the "for sure" solution at center. However, it's definitely possible.

                    There's probably 20 other teams in the NFL that want to use the next offseason to bolster their OL, so we'll have our work cut out for us. As we're all aware of, we're projected to have four of the top 50 picks. It's safe to say that ONE of those picks will be used on a position on our OL. I'd love to sit here and tell you that this draft is stocked with OL talent, but it's completely the opposite. We'll have to find an immediate starter, and that player will have to step in pretty much right away.

                    Here's to hoping...

                    I believe Olineman would come here simply because they'd be playing next to Joe Thomas, future HoF'er.

                    Even signing one of those that I mentoned like Zeiter or Schrader, is better than none.

                    We also need to get Eric Berry to make our secondary less laughable..

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                    @domcucch1994 said:

                    I believe Olineman would come here simply because they'd be playing next to Joe Thomas, future HoF'er.

                    Even signing one of those that I mentoned like Zeiter or Schrader, is better than none.

                    We also need to get Eric Berry to make our secondary less laughable..

                    They can play next to Joe and get their 3 wins.

                    We will likely have to address our needs through the draft until they can start winning more games. The types of players who are willing to lose and make a huge paycheck tend to play like they could give a shit.

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                      @domcucch1994 said:

                      I believe Olineman would come here simply because they'd be playing next to Joe Thomas, future HoF'er.

                      Even signing one of those that I mentoned like Zeiter or Schrader, is better than none.

                      We also need to get Eric Berry to make our secondary less laughable..

                      They can play next to Joe and get their 3 wins.

                      We will likely have to address our needs through the draft until they can start winning more games. The types of players who are willing to lose and make a huge paycheck tend to play like they could give a shit.

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                      @logicisforsquares said:

                      They can play next to Joe and get their 3 wins.

                      We will likely have to address our needs through the draft until they can start winning more games. The types of players who are willing to lose and make a huge paycheck tend to play like they could give a shit.

                      This is a year where there are two or three young, first round talent linemen that have not lived up to their potential hitting the market.

                      Joeckel and Warmack are both set to become free agents this year and both will likely jump at the chance to get mid-level starter money and get their careers back on track. Both have underplayed their draft position and have dealt with some injuries along the way. I'd be happy signing either one of those and resigning Cooper and letting our line work itself out in the offseason.

                      I wouldn't mind seeing Joeckel and Pasztor battle it out for the RT spot, Warmack and Cooper battle it out for the RG spot, and let Greco battle it out with a rookie (Elflein/Pocic/Orlosky/Fuller) for the C spot.

                      That would give us a depth chart of:

                      LT - Thomas / Joeckel / Pasztor

                      LG- Bitonio / Cooper / Reiter

                      C - Greco / Rookie

                      RG - Warmack / Cooper / Reiter

                      RT - Joeckel / Pasztor

                      That's 8 offensive linemen, four of which are first round talent. We'd likely get Joeckel and Warmack for mid-level contracts, we wouldn't be breaking the bank to sign them.

                      Then, if we were to draft Trubisky, we'd be following in the Raiders/Cowboys mold of plugging in your athletic rookie QB behind a stout offensive line and limiting the shots he takes.

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                        Supposing we're 0-16, or even 1-15...attracting free agents to our little disaster will take either gigantic dollars, or severe mental instability. You want some good news? In the "best case scenario" department, it's possible that Austin Reiter (sp?) could be our center. We're getting Joel Bitonio back. We have Joe Thomas. That's not a bad start. We have some other players on the roster that are at least...serviceable. Greco, Drango, Pasztor...all decent. We'll draft some depth, and hopefully that will help. Cam Erving...well...he'll be on the bench. Reiter only played one game, and although it was a solid effort, Browns fans are too smart to think he's the "for sure" solution at center. However, it's definitely possible.

                        There's probably 20 other teams in the NFL that want to use the next offseason to bolster their OL, so we'll have our work cut out for us. As we're all aware of, we're projected to have four of the top 50 picks. It's safe to say that ONE of those picks will be used on a position on our OL. I'd love to sit here and tell you that this draft is stocked with OL talent, but it's completely the opposite. We'll have to find an immediate starter, and that player will have to step in pretty much right away.

                        Here's to hoping...

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @jiggins7919 said:

                        Supposing we're 0-16, or even 1-15...attracting free agents to our little disaster will take either gigantic dollars, or severe mental instability. You want some good news? In the "best case scenario" department, it's possible that Austin Reiter (sp?) could be our center. We're getting Joel Bitonio back. We have Joe Thomas. That's not a bad start. We have some other players on the roster that are at least...serviceable. Greco, Drango, Pasztor...all decent. We'll draft some depth, and hopefully that will help. Cam Erving...well...he'll be on the bench. Reiter only played one game, and although it was a solid effort, Browns fans are too smart to think he's the "for sure" solution at center. However, it's definitely possible.

                        There's probably 20 other teams in the NFL that want to use the next offseason to bolster their OL, so we'll have our work cut out for us. As we're all aware of, we're projected to have four of the top 50 picks. It's safe to say that ONE of those picks will be used on a position on our OL. I'd love to sit here and tell you that this draft is stocked with OL talent, but it's completely the opposite. We'll have to find an immediate starter, and that player will have to step in pretty much right away.

                        Here's to hoping...

                        Yes...at LEAST we have to draft an OC....and there are a few out there to be had. At least, scouting reports seem to show a couple could be solid.

                        But then....someone felt that Cam Erving graded out well enough to be taken in the first round. OI!.

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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          They can play next to Joe and get their 3 wins.

                          We will likely have to address our needs through the draft until they can start winning more games. The types of players who are willing to lose and make a huge paycheck tend to play like they could give a shit.

                          This is a year where there are two or three young, first round talent linemen that have not lived up to their potential hitting the market.

                          Joeckel and Warmack are both set to become free agents this year and both will likely jump at the chance to get mid-level starter money and get their careers back on track. Both have underplayed their draft position and have dealt with some injuries along the way. I'd be happy signing either one of those and resigning Cooper and letting our line work itself out in the offseason.

                          I wouldn't mind seeing Joeckel and Pasztor battle it out for the RT spot, Warmack and Cooper battle it out for the RG spot, and let Greco battle it out with a rookie (Elflein/Pocic/Orlosky/Fuller) for the C spot.

                          That would give us a depth chart of:

                          LT - Thomas / Joeckel / Pasztor

                          LG- Bitonio / Cooper / Reiter

                          C - Greco / Rookie

                          RG - Warmack / Cooper / Reiter

                          RT - Joeckel / Pasztor

                          That's 8 offensive linemen, four of which are first round talent. We'd likely get Joeckel and Warmack for mid-level contracts, we wouldn't be breaking the bank to sign them.

                          Then, if we were to draft Trubisky, we'd be following in the Raiders/Cowboys mold of plugging in your athletic rookie QB behind a stout offensive line and limiting the shots he takes.

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                          This is a year where there are two or three young, first round talent linemen that have not lived up to their potential hitting the market.

                          Joeckel and Warmack are both set to become free agents this year and both will likely jump at the chance to get mid-level starter money and get their careers back on track. Both have underplayed their draft position and have dealt with some injuries along the way. I'd be happy signing either one of those and resigning Cooper and letting our line work itself out in the offseason.

                          I wouldn't mind seeing Joeckel and Pasztor battle it out for the RT spot, Warmack and Cooper battle it out for the RG spot, and let Greco battle it out with a rookie (Elflein/Pocic/Orlosky/Fuller) for the C spot.

                          That would give us a depth chart of:

                          LT - Thomas / Joeckel / Pasztor

                          LG- Bitonio / Cooper / Reiter

                          C - Greco / Rookie

                          RG - Warmack / Cooper / Reiter

                          RT - Joeckel / Pasztor

                          That's 8 offensive linemen, four of which are first round talent. We'd likely get Joeckel and Warmack for mid-level contracts, we wouldn't be breaking the bank to sign them.

                          Then, if we were to draft Trubisky, we'd be following in the Raiders/Cowboys mold of plugging in your athletic rookie QB behind a stout offensive line and limiting the shots he takes.

                          Sounds like a fair plan. Would our anal-yitics guys go for it. Would these FAs go for playing for the Browns? Where are Drango and Coleman in your plan? Aufed?

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                            @logicisforsquares said:

                            They can play next to Joe and get their 3 wins.

                            We will likely have to address our needs through the draft until they can start winning more games. The types of players who are willing to lose and make a huge paycheck tend to play like they could give a shit.

                            This is a year where there are two or three young, first round talent linemen that have not lived up to their potential hitting the market.

                            Joeckel and Warmack are both set to become free agents this year and both will likely jump at the chance to get mid-level starter money and get their careers back on track. Both have underplayed their draft position and have dealt with some injuries along the way. I'd be happy signing either one of those and resigning Cooper and letting our line work itself out in the offseason.

                            I wouldn't mind seeing Joeckel and Pasztor battle it out for the RT spot, Warmack and Cooper battle it out for the RG spot, and let Greco battle it out with a rookie (Elflein/Pocic/Orlosky/Fuller) for the C spot.

                            That would give us a depth chart of:

                            LT - Thomas / Joeckel / Pasztor

                            LG- Bitonio / Cooper / Reiter

                            C - Greco / Rookie

                            RG - Warmack / Cooper / Reiter

                            RT - Joeckel / Pasztor

                            That's 8 offensive linemen, four of which are first round talent. We'd likely get Joeckel and Warmack for mid-level contracts, we wouldn't be breaking the bank to sign them.

                            Then, if we were to draft Trubisky, we'd be following in the Raiders/Cowboys mold of plugging in your athletic rookie QB behind a stout offensive line and limiting the shots he takes.

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                            @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                            This is a year where there are two or three young, first round talent linemen that have not lived up to their potential hitting the market.

                            Joeckel and Warmack are both set to become free agents this year and both will likely jump at the chance to get mid-level starter money and get their careers back on track. Both have underplayed their draft position and have dealt with some injuries along the way. I'd be happy signing either one of those and resigning Cooper and letting our line work itself out in the offseason.

                            I wouldn't mind seeing Joeckel and Pasztor battle it out for the RT spot, Warmack and Cooper battle it out for the RG spot, and let Greco battle it out with a rookie (Elflein/Pocic/Orlosky/Fuller) for the C spot.

                            That would give us a depth chart of:

                            LT - Thomas / Joeckel / Pasztor

                            LG- Bitonio / Cooper / Reiter

                            C - Greco / Rookie

                            RG - Warmack / Cooper / Reiter

                            RT - Joeckel / Pasztor

                            That's 8 offensive linemen, four of which are first round talent. We'd likely get Joeckel and Warmack for mid-level contracts, we wouldn't be breaking the bank to sign them.

                            Then, if we were to draft Trubisky, we'd be following in the Raiders/Cowboys mold of plugging in your athletic rookie QB behind a stout offensive line and limiting the shots he takes.

                            That sounds reasonable and fits with the line of thinking I believe our FO has at the moment.

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                              @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                              This is a year where there are two or three young, first round talent linemen that have not lived up to their potential hitting the market.

                              Joeckel and Warmack are both set to become free agents this year and both will likely jump at the chance to get mid-level starter money and get their careers back on track. Both have underplayed their draft position and have dealt with some injuries along the way. I'd be happy signing either one of those and resigning Cooper and letting our line work itself out in the offseason.

                              I wouldn't mind seeing Joeckel and Pasztor battle it out for the RT spot, Warmack and Cooper battle it out for the RG spot, and let Greco battle it out with a rookie (Elflein/Pocic/Orlosky/Fuller) for the C spot.

                              That would give us a depth chart of:

                              LT - Thomas / Joeckel / Pasztor

                              LG- Bitonio / Cooper / Reiter

                              C - Greco / Rookie

                              RG - Warmack / Cooper / Reiter

                              RT - Joeckel / Pasztor

                              That's 8 offensive linemen, four of which are first round talent. We'd likely get Joeckel and Warmack for mid-level contracts, we wouldn't be breaking the bank to sign them.

                              Then, if we were to draft Trubisky, we'd be following in the Raiders/Cowboys mold of plugging in your athletic rookie QB behind a stout offensive line and limiting the shots he takes.

                              Sounds like a fair plan. Would our anal-yitics guys go for it. Would these FAs go for playing for the Browns? Where are Drango and Coleman in your plan? Aufed?

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Sounds like a fair plan. Would our anal-yitics guys go for it. Would these FAs go for playing for the Browns? Where are Drango and Coleman in your plan? Aufed?

                              We could keep one - I believe 9 is a healthy OL number.

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                                D domcucch1994 wrote on last edited by domcucch1994
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                                I say trade Joe Haden. He is good when healthy, but his health concerns worry me. Someone out there will take him. I say trade him for a 2nd in 2017 and a 4th in the 2018 drafts. Use tthe 2017 pick to get a solid corner next year in the 2nd and sign Eric Berry and Trumaine Johnson in Free Agency, and that secondary will get a whole lot better. \

                                Draft Trubisky and Jabril Peppers to fill key positions at both QB and FS. A guard in the 2nd, Dlineman for a few picks, sign Kevin Zeitler from the Bengals and Ryan Schrader in Free Agency as well. That oline would be dominant.

                                If we had to we could move up into the 3rd for a C to potentially replace Cam Erving if he falters.

                                They need to take players based on needs but if they can land Mitch and Jabril in the 1st, that would be awesome

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                                  I'd love Peppers for Homer reasons, but we aren't taking a QB #1 overall.

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                    Very doable plan if we were the only team in the league... and there was no salary cap...

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                                      I'd love Peppers for Homer reasons, but we aren't taking a QB #1 overall.

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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      I'd love Peppers for Homer reasons, but we aren't taking a QB #1 overall.

                                      Wanna bet?

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                                        Very doable plan if we were the only team in the league... and there was no salary cap...

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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Very doable plan if we were the only team in the league... and there was no salary cap...

                                        We could sign Joecjel and Warmack for gigantic OL contracts, putting them among the highest at their respective positions, and still not face cap trouble until 2020.

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                                          Peppers is making a good case today as the #1 pick

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