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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    This is a year where there are two or three young, first round talent linemen that have not lived up to their potential hitting the market.

    Joeckel and Warmack are both set to become free agents this year and both will likely jump at the chance to get mid-level starter money and get their careers back on track. Both have underplayed their draft position and have dealt with some injuries along the way. I'd be happy signing either one of those and resigning Cooper and letting our line work itself out in the offseason.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Joeckel and Pasztor battle it out for the RT spot, Warmack and Cooper battle it out for the RG spot, and let Greco battle it out with a rookie (Elflein/Pocic/Orlosky/Fuller) for the C spot.

    That would give us a depth chart of:

    LT - Thomas / Joeckel / Pasztor

    LG- Bitonio / Cooper / Reiter

    C - Greco / Rookie

    RG - Warmack / Cooper / Reiter

    RT - Joeckel / Pasztor

    That's 8 offensive linemen, four of which are first round talent. We'd likely get Joeckel and Warmack for mid-level contracts, we wouldn't be breaking the bank to sign them.

    Then, if we were to draft Trubisky, we'd be following in the Raiders/Cowboys mold of plugging in your athletic rookie QB behind a stout offensive line and limiting the shots he takes.

    Sounds like a fair plan. Would our anal-yitics guys go for it. Would these FAs go for playing for the Browns? Where are Drango and Coleman in your plan? Aufed?

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    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Sounds like a fair plan. Would our anal-yitics guys go for it. Would these FAs go for playing for the Browns? Where are Drango and Coleman in your plan? Aufed?

    We could keep one - I believe 9 is a healthy OL number.

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      D domcucch1994 wrote on last edited by domcucch1994
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      I say trade Joe Haden. He is good when healthy, but his health concerns worry me. Someone out there will take him. I say trade him for a 2nd in 2017 and a 4th in the 2018 drafts. Use tthe 2017 pick to get a solid corner next year in the 2nd and sign Eric Berry and Trumaine Johnson in Free Agency, and that secondary will get a whole lot better. \

      Draft Trubisky and Jabril Peppers to fill key positions at both QB and FS. A guard in the 2nd, Dlineman for a few picks, sign Kevin Zeitler from the Bengals and Ryan Schrader in Free Agency as well. That oline would be dominant.

      If we had to we could move up into the 3rd for a C to potentially replace Cam Erving if he falters.

      They need to take players based on needs but if they can land Mitch and Jabril in the 1st, that would be awesome

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        I'd love Peppers for Homer reasons, but we aren't taking a QB #1 overall.

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          Very doable plan if we were the only team in the league... and there was no salary cap...

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          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

            I'd love Peppers for Homer reasons, but we aren't taking a QB #1 overall.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @mld-woody said:

            I'd love Peppers for Homer reasons, but we aren't taking a QB #1 overall.

            Wanna bet?

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            • Tour2maT Tour2ma

              Very doable plan if we were the only team in the league... and there was no salary cap...

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              Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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              @tour2ma said:

              Very doable plan if we were the only team in the league... and there was no salary cap...

              We could sign Joecjel and Warmack for gigantic OL contracts, putting them among the highest at their respective positions, and still not face cap trouble until 2020.

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                Peppers is making a good case today as the #1 pick

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  And barett is proving he's tebow squared

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                  • The GipperT The Gipper

                    @mld-woody said:

                    I'd love Peppers for Homer reasons, but we aren't taking a QB #1 overall.

                    Wanna bet?

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    @the-gipper said:

                    Wanna bet?

                    Sure... whatcha got in mind?

                    @clevfan4life said:

                    Peppers is making a good case today as the #1 pick

                    He was?

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                    • C Clevfan4life

                      Peppers is making a good case today as the #1 pick

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                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      Peppers is making a good case today as the #1 pick

                      Like completely bitching out on making a tackle attempt on Curtis Samuel during his 9 yard run to setup the 4th down...?

                      What else made him look #1 overall? His first career INT tipped them dropped right into his hands.

                      Fuck Peppers and his draft stock.

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                        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                        Peppers isn't a first overall pick. He's a tweener. He's to small for the line and not big enough for a run stopping lb'er spot.

                        And he's to big and slow for Safety.

                        He is a good player, but without a position

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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          correct me if im' wrong but isn't Peppers running 4'3-4'4 40's? And that's too slow for safety? Hell I might draft that fucker at RB. But srsly defensively he's gonna be a nasty hybrid LB/FS

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            Did Peppers make a play in the secondary that I missed?

                            I did see him trailing slower Buckeyes... some with the ball... some without it. But there was that tipped ball he centerfielded...

                            Defenders I saw I'd want included:

                            • a Taco and a large Glasgow;
                            • a McMillan and a Hooker.
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                              RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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                              Peppers = Hester 2.0

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                              • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                                Did Peppers make a play in the secondary that I missed?

                                I did see him trailing slower Buckeyes... some with the ball... some without it. But there was that tipped ball he centerfielded...

                                Defenders I saw I'd want included:

                                • a Taco and a large Glasgow;
                                • a McMillan and a Hooker.
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                                FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                                @tour2ma said:

                                Did Peppers make a play in the secondary that I missed?

                                No. But does Ohio State win that game without Malik Hooker's 3rd pick 6 of the year?

                                I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                • FlugelF Flugel

                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Did Peppers make a play in the secondary that I missed?

                                  No. But does Ohio State win that game without Malik Hooker's 3rd pick 6 of the year?

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                                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @flugel said:

                                  No. But does Ohio State win that game without Malik Hooker's 3rd pick 6 of the year?

                                  Who cares? As I've argued with Woody on - Peppers is NOT an elite athlete and no he doesn't run in the 4.3's. He MIGHT run a high 4.4's.

                                  His shuttle, split and cone drill should be good though.

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                                  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                    Just have to convince good players in their prime to come here

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                                    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Just have to convince good players in their prime to come here

                                    No chance unless you grossly overpay

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                                      Peppers is making a good case today as the #1 pick

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      Peppers is making a good case today as the #1 pick

                                      Seriously? If you want a punt returner as the #1 pick. Otherwise....Malik Hooker was every bit the defensive player as Peppers.

                                      (but I don't know if Hooker will be coming out)

                                      If Peppers were there with our second pick from the Eagles...OK. Not #1

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                                      • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Wanna bet?

                                        Sure... whatcha got in mind?

                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        Peppers is making a good case today as the #1 pick

                                        He was?

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Sure... whatcha got in mind?

                                        I will go the CalFox route: Hot Fudge Sundae.

                                        He was?

                                        I will help: No.

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                                          U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
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                                          Let some other team waste their pick on Peppers.

                                          He is a good run defender who plays well in the box, but he has problems in pass coverage. He is athletic and fast enough to cover, but he gets caught flat-footed and is slow to react to cuts. That consistently allows separation. In the NFL, Peppers would be best as a strong safety who walks down into the box like Deone Bucannon. However, Peppers could get picked on in pass coverage.

                                          Peppers.is not discernably better than Reynolds or Kindred. You know, the guys we already start.

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