Draft Talk
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I think that stabilizing the QB spot with Mitch Trubisky would be pretty awesome. I like this kid, he's a baller. I like him better than Tannehill, Wentz, Goff, Bortles... all those guys.
We should do it.
Fuck. Another first round QB... but I think this time it's different. Mitch is 6'3" 220 with a physical body type. He's got the tools and the last game he played, a game in which they lost, he rallied them back and put a catchable ball to his receiver on 4th and 20 with the game on the line. That is the type of QB we need in Cleveland.
What would it cost us to turn that Philly pick into the #2 overall draft selection. So that we could own #1 and #2 and draft our faces of the franchise on both offense and defense?
I think that stabilizing the QB spot with Mitch Trubisky would be pretty awesome. I like this kid, he's a baller. I like him better than Tannehill, Wentz, Goff, Bortles... all those guys.
We should do it.
Fuck. Another first round QB... but I think this time it's different. Mitch is 6'3" 220 with a physical body type. He's got the tools and the last game he played, a game in which they lost, he rallied them back and put a catchable ball to his receiver on 4th and 20 with the game on the line. That is the type of QB we need in Cleveland.
What would it cost us to turn that Philly pick into the #2 overall draft selection. So that we could own #1 and #2 and draft our faces of the franchise on both offense and defense?
We went over that....it would take our mid round pick that we get from Philly...plus a one next year....plus something else...a 2 or a 3.
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Hooker says he is staying in school.
*insert joke*
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That would be worth it. It would give our guys some time to develop and we would get contributors that we need now. The draft after that we can trade out and pick up more firsts/seconds for the next draft.
First Round
#1- Mitch Trubisky
#2- Myles Garrett
Second Round
First pick of the second round, we should keep this one, trade our second second rounder to move up. We could even throw in the second rounder that the eagles give us for the following draft.
Oline or Trade for a first rounder next draft to recoup what we lost to move up and get Garrett.
Third Round
Oline if we trade our other second for a first next draft
... eh, gets confusing sorry. In a rush right now.
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From what I gather, Ohio State only must lose 4 seniors: OC Pat Elflein, backup WRs Dontrel Wilson and Corey Smith...and their punter.
Others that could go include Barrett, Samuel, Hooker, Billy Price, Garreon Conley, Tyquan Lewis, Raekwon McMillan.
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Trade away 4 second round picks, one of which is borderline first rounder for the #2 overall...
Then we could get our Franchise QB. Mitch Trubisky
We get our Defensive Menace. Myles Garrett
Then we could get what? Christian McCaffery? Cam Robinson? One of the big TEs? Or Maybe a Stud Safety or Cornerback?
That would allow us to keep our first rounder next year. We'd still have the rest of our later round picks, which are plenty to draft for depth. We have a blank check so to speak in cap room which would be well suited to franchise Collins if he doesn't want to stay.
This would allow for another season of development of our young players to see what we really have, because until we get healthy and gel as a team we still don't know what we really have. Another year in the system and contingency go a long way for younger players.
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Trade away 4 second round picks, one of which is borderline first rounder for the #2 overall...
Then we could get our Franchise QB. Mitch Trubisky
We get our Defensive Menace. Myles Garrett
Then we could get what? Christian McCaffery? Cam Robinson? One of the big TEs? Or Maybe a Stud Safety or Cornerback?
That would allow us to keep our first rounder next year. We'd still have the rest of our later round picks, which are plenty to draft for depth. We have a blank check so to speak in cap room which would be well suited to franchise Collins if he doesn't want to stay.
This would allow for another season of development of our young players to see what we really have, because until we get healthy and gel as a team we still don't know what we really have. Another year in the system and contingency go a long way for younger players.
Trade away 4 second round picks, one of which is borderline first rounder for the #2 overall...
Then we could get our Franchise QB. Mitch Trubisky
We get our Defensive Menace. Myles Garrett
Then we could get what? Christian McCaffery? Cam Robinson? One of the big TEs? Or Maybe a Stud Safety or Cornerback?
That would allow us to keep our first rounder next year. We'd still have the rest of our later round picks, which are plenty to draft for depth. We have a blank check so to speak in cap room which would be well suited to franchise Collins if he doesn't want to stay.
This would allow for another season of development of our young players to see what we really have, because until we get healthy and gel as a team we still don't know what we really have. Another year in the system and contingency go a long way for younger players.
OK, well, lets not go overboard.
Let's say you did have 3 first round picks. For the Cleveland Browns.....2 out of 3 would end up being complete busts.
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Trubisky/Garrett/McCaffery
Call it, it's a wrap.
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From what I gather, Ohio State only must lose 4 seniors: OC Pat Elflein, backup WRs Dontrel Wilson and Corey Smith...and their punter.
Others that could go include Barrett, Samuel, Hooker, Billy Price, Garreon Conley, Tyquan Lewis, Raekwon McMillan.
From what I gather, Ohio State only must lose 4 seniors: OC Pat Elflein, backup WRs Dontrel Wilson and Corey Smith...and their punter.
Others that could go include Barrett, Samuel, Hooker, Billy Price, Garreon Conley, Tyquan Lewis, Raekwon McMillan.
Right now Walter Football has Pat Elflein mocked mid second round. I say take him @ 33, depending on what we do in the first round. Almost anything is better than Erving.
BTW, Barrett is going to have to switch positions like Pryor did. He's no NFL level qb.
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From what I gather, Ohio State only must lose 4 seniors: OC Pat Elflein, backup WRs Dontrel Wilson and Corey Smith...and their punter.
Others that could go include Barrett, Samuel, Hooker, Billy Price, Garreon Conley, Tyquan Lewis, Raekwon McMillan.
Right now Walter Football has Pat Elflein mocked mid second round. I say take him @ 33, depending on what we do in the first round. Almost anything is better than Erving.
BTW, Barrett is going to have to switch positions like Pryor did. He's no NFL level qb.
Right now Walter Football has Pat Elflein mocked mid second round. I say take him @ 33, depending on what we do in the first round. Almost anything is better than Erving.
BTW, Barrett is going to have to switch positions like Pryor did. He's no NFL level qb.
I agree - the four players I listed, I think I had him at 33, definately second round.
If Quentin Nelson, OG, ...ND? leaves school - watch out. But I believe he and the OT are staying...so far.
I'd draft Nelson with the second first rounder if he goes NFL in a NY second.
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Trubisky/Garrett/McCaffery
Call it, it's a wrap.
I don't think the Eagles pick is going to be high enough to take Garrett with it. If we take Trubisky at 1, Garrett isn't lasting till picks 10-15 where they're projecting that eagles pick to be. We'd have to trade up.
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interesting - some nfl folks reportedly don't think Garrett is the best in the draft.
So far, Neslon, ND OG and Hooker, Ohio State, are rumored to be staying in school....
that leans me towards a top cb, or a top safety, which is Adams, LSU.
way too early. dammit.
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From what I gather, Ohio State only must lose 4 seniors: OC Pat Elflein, backup WRs Dontrel Wilson and Corey Smith...and their punter.
Others that could go include Barrett, Samuel, Hooker, Billy Price, Garreon Conley, Tyquan Lewis, Raekwon McMillan.
Right now Walter Football has Pat Elflein mocked mid second round. I say take him @ 33, depending on what we do in the first round. Almost anything is better than Erving.
BTW, Barrett is going to have to switch positions like Pryor did. He's no NFL level qb.
Right now Walter Football has Pat Elflein mocked mid second round. I say take him @ 33, depending on what we do in the first round. Almost anything is better than Erving.
BTW, Barrett is going to have to switch positions like Pryor did. He's no NFL level qb.
I don't believe he's NFL caliber, period.
Mike
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If QB isn't first pick you can bet your ass it's DE or Oline.
Either way Oline is going to be one of your top 2 picks, so identify whom they are now.
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interesting - some nfl folks reportedly don't think Garrett is the best in the draft.
So far, Neslon, ND OG and Hooker, Ohio State, are rumored to be staying in school....
that leans me towards a top cb, or a top safety, which is Adams, LSU.
way too early. dammit.
interesting - some nfl folks reportedly don't think Garrett is the best in the draft.
So far, Neslon, ND OG and Hooker, Ohio State, are rumored to be staying in school....
that leans me towards a top cb, or a top safety, which is Adams, LSU.
way too early. dammit.
Adams is a thug. You sure you want him? Would ruin your whole narrative.
Garrett is the most talented. Is he the best player? Not really.
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I don't think the Eagles pick is going to be high enough to take Garrett with it. If we take Trubisky at 1, Garrett isn't lasting till picks 10-15 where they're projecting that eagles pick to be. We'd have to trade up.
Read his post again. He talks about trading so we have the first two picks.
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interesting - some nfl folks reportedly don't think Garrett is the best in the draft.
So far, Neslon, ND OG and Hooker, Ohio State, are rumored to be staying in school....
that leans me towards a top cb, or a top safety, which is Adams, LSU.
way too early. dammit.
Adams is a thug. You sure you want him? Would ruin your whole narrative.
Garrett is the most talented. Is he the best player? Not really.
Adams is a thug. You sure you want him? Would ruin your whole narrative.
I think if Vontaze Burfict was a Brown that everyone would be overlooking his propensity for being a scumbag.
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Adams is a thug. You sure you want him? Would ruin your whole narrative.
I think if Vontaze Burfict was a Brown that everyone would be overlooking his propensity for being a scumbag.
I think if Vontaze Burfict was a Brown that everyone would be overlooking his propensity for being a scumbag.
Yup.
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