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  • And like I said, if that's the best ISIS has to offer, no big deal.

    And like you said, he's not likely an ISIS guy. Or Al-Qaeda, or whatever, just a crazy guy. We see plenty of crazy guys that aren't liked with whatever group.

  • Isis tells people to attack using cars and knives. Just random people that is, part of their propaganda campaign.

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  • And like I said, if that's the best ISIS has to offer, no big deal.

    And like you said, he's not likely an ISIS guy. Or Al-Qaeda, or whatever, just a crazy guy. We see plenty of crazy guys that aren't liked with whatever group.

    @gftchris said:

    And like I said, if that's the best ISIS has to offer, no big deal.

    And like you said, he's not likely an ISIS guy. Or Al-Qaeda, or whatever, just a crazy guy. We see plenty of crazy guys that aren't liked with whatever group.

    "If I am about to have sex with a girl and all of a sudden I scream out "Wu Tang", that doesn't mean I am in the Wu Tang Clan." - Dave Chappelle

  • You can probably debate whether the use of legal force was entirely necessary, but the cop shouted "get down on the ground or I will shoot you" or whatever before doing so when the guy didn't comply. I'm not losing any sleep over this being a 'white cop kills poor black man' case.

  • @bbedward said:

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    Dumb shits like this are who make dialogue about real problems near impossible.

  • You can probably debate whether the use of legal force was entirely necessary, but the cop shouted "get down on the ground or I will shoot you" or whatever before doing so when the guy didn't comply. I'm not losing any sleep over this being a 'white cop kills poor black man' case.

    @gftchris said:

    You can probably debate whether the use of legal force was entirely necessary

    Tasers don't always work and shooting in the legs falls under that umbrella.

  • It's remarkable how those things that apparently don't work in america are perfectly fine elsewhere.

  • You can probably debate whether the use of legal force was entirely necessary, but the cop shouted "get down on the ground or I will shoot you" or whatever before doing so when the guy didn't comply. I'm not losing any sleep over this being a 'white cop kills poor black man' case.

    @gftchris said:

    You can probably debate whether the use of legal force was entirely necessary, but the cop shouted "get down on the ground or I will shoot you" or whatever before doing so when the guy didn't comply. I'm not losing any sleep over this being a 'white cop kills poor black man' case.

    What's the over-under in days as to the BLM protest?

    WSS

  • @gftchris said:

    You can probably debate whether the use of legal force was entirely necessary, but the cop shouted "get down on the ground or I will shoot you" or whatever before doing so when the guy didn't comply. I'm not losing any sleep over this being a 'white cop kills poor black man' case.

    What's the over-under in days as to the BLM protest?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    What's the over-under in days as to the BLM protest?

    WSS

    I don't think there will be one. Guy was clearly in the midst of a (feeble) rampage, not like he was on the ground with arms outstretched and got a double tap to the head or whatever.

  • They said the guy was silent and didn't say anything or respond to police commands.

    Cop acted quickly and decisively, probably saved lives.

  • You can probably debate whether the use of legal force was entirely necessary, but the cop shouted "get down on the ground or I will shoot you" or whatever before doing so when the guy didn't comply. I'm not losing any sleep over this being a 'white cop kills poor black man' case.

    @gftchris said:

    You can probably debate whether the use of legal force was entirely necessary, but the cop shouted "get down on the ground or I will shoot you" or whatever before doing so when the guy didn't comply. I'm not losing any sleep over this being a 'white cop kills poor black man' case.

    Stuart

    You mean lethal force.

    Legal force covers a broad variety of things such as curfews, permits, obeying traffic laws ect...

  • Did I say legal? So I did. Oops. Yes, lethal.

  • I Think the tendancy is to say "oh we haven't found any links to isis. Therefore not terrorism" the guy is clearly inspired by isis who has specifically called for both vehicle and knife attacks.

  • It's remarkable how those things that apparently don't work in america are perfectly fine elsewhere.

    @gftchris said:

    It's remarkable how those things that apparently don't work in america are perfectly fine elsewhere.

    So British cops wouldn't have shown up in tac gear to a call about someone flattening 10 people with a car then running around with a butcher knife? Those MP5s they carry must be decorative.

    I think they would be on the careful side after what has been going on in Europe of late.

  • @gftchris said:

    It's remarkable how those things that apparently don't work in america are perfectly fine elsewhere.

    So British cops wouldn't have shown up in tac gear to a call about someone flattening 10 people with a car then running around with a butcher knife? Those MP5s they carry must be decorative.

    I think they would be on the careful side after what has been going on in Europe of late.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    So British cops wouldn't have shown up in tac gear to a call about someone flattening 10 people with a car then running around with a butcher knife? Those MP5s they carry must be decorative.

    I think they would be on the careful side after what has been going on in Europe of late.

    Perhaps, perhaps not. But in general, police here are extremely reluctant to use lethal force, which is reflected in the number of people they've killed.
  • They shouldn't be because you take a Somali refugee with a knife and police reluctant to kill him and you get Lee Rigby beheaded in the streets of England.

  • He's a sympathizer. Regardless of the idea that all must be accepted, at some point, public trust will be lost on those claiming to be Muslim. I know not all are bad, as I work with some very good muslim people. But you wonder what happens behind closed doors. Religious, political and theocratic ideas are hard to visualize in some people who are very private. Yet, you don't know when they will snap and do something like this idiot.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/osu-attack-suspect-identified-abdul-razak-ali-artan-215141263--abc-news-topstories.html

    Authorities are investigating an anti-U.S. rant posted on Facebook just minutes before the Ohio State University attack today that is believed to be linked to suspect Abdul Razak Ali Artan, sources told ABC News.

    Appearing three minutes before the beginning of the rampage that left 11 people injured, the post reads: “I can’t take it anymore. America! Stop interfering with other countries, especially the Muslim Ummah. We are not weak. We are not weak, remember that.”

    The post also invokes the name Anwar Al-Awlaki, a radical American-born al-Qaeda cleric, describing him as a “hero." Al-Awlaki was killed in 2011 but his propaganda has been linked to several domestic terrorist attacks in the years after his death.

    “If you want us Muslims to stop carrying lone wolf attacks, then make peace,” the post reads. “We will not let you sleep unless you give peace to the Muslims.”

    The post, which was on a page that appears to have since been disabled, takes the form of a photo of a computer screen displaying a text document.

    Authorities identified Artan as the attacker in a press conference this afternoon, but said they have not determined a motive and the investigation is ongoing. Sources told ABC News that he is a of Somali descent and is a legal permanent resident in the United States.

    Officials said that this morning’s attack began when the assailant drove a vehicle into several people before exiting and slashing victims with a knife.

  • This was published on August 25th in OSUs school newspaper (from the attacker)

    “I just transferred from Columbus State. We had prayer rooms, like actual rooms where we could go pray because we Muslims have to pray five times a day.

    “There’s Fajr, which is early in the morning, at dawn. Then Zuhr during the daytime, then Asr in the evening, like right about now. And then Maghrib, which is like right at sunset and then Isha at night. I wanted to pray Asr. I mean, I’m new here. This is my first day. This place is huge, and I don’t even know where to pray.

    “I wanted to pray in the open, but I was scared with everything going on in the media. I’m a Muslim, it’s not what the media portrays me to be. If people look at me, a Muslim praying, I don’t know what they’re going to think, what’s going to happen. But, I don’t blame them. It’s the media that put that picture in their heads so they’re just going to have it and it, it’s going to make them feel uncomfortable. I was kind of scared right now. But I just did it. I relied on God. I went over to the corner and just prayed.”

  • For the ones breaking this down and putting a liberal spin on what's right and what's the wrong way to stop or subdue a maniac..

    There's things you do and things you dont do. You don't use your car as a weapon then exit the vehicle and start stabbing people and shit.