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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Nah, because everybody knows that just gets you to #22 anyway. 😆

    I don't know, being shit is generally the only criterion there.

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by

    @gftchris said:

    I don't know, being shit is generally the only criterion there.

    Mitch Trubisky...hmmmm, you can spell Shitty in his name. The stars are certainly lining up.

  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    Should trade down take him with a low first round pick and then get the Notre Dame center with the first pick in the second round.

    WSS

  • R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by

    While I haven't watched much of the upcoming QB class, it should be interesting to see how it all shakes out

  • Should trade down take him with a low first round pick and then get the Notre Dame center with the first pick in the second round.

    WSS

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by

    @westside-steve said:

    Should trade down take him with a low first round pick and then get the Notre Dame center with the first pick in the second round.

    WSS

    Notre Dame center? That's a new one by me. Who and why?

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by

    It's pretty obvious we need a center, but I'm not so sure spending a top pick is what we need, UNLESS we draft a guy that has utility value. Like the Guard/Center from LSU named Pocic (I think). He's listed as both Guard and Center, and THAT sounds good to me. Mainly because we have Austin Reiter, and while I understand he only played ONE game for us, it's entirely possible that he could be our starter. So we have Reiter at Center (already had his ACL surgery), and then Pocic at Guard. We also have Erving on the bench in case we need some depth (not GOOD depth, but whatever).

    I'm not sure the Notre Dame Center has that kind of utility, but if he does, I'd be all for drafting him. Especially if he's mean and physical...which I think he is.

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by

    I'd rather see Coleman and Drango as our swing OL if we keep 7 on the roster.

    Erving will only see a professional paycheck next season in Canada.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Should trade down take him with a low first round pick and then get the Notre Dame center with the first pick in the second round.

    WSS

    Notre Dame center? That's a new one by me. Who and why?

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @gftchris said:

    Notre Dame center? That's a new one by me. Who and why?

    Duh I misread Nelson is a guard.

    Frankly I don't care that much if they get the quarterback or not. I understand the homor aspect but I also understand the backlash if the hometown kid sucks. I would like to have a really good Center maybe in the second round.

    WSS

  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by

    OK cool, makes more sense now.

  • We do have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds. They "should" all be starter quality. A QB, OC, OLB, and maybe a CB. "Could" make a huge impact... I doubt we do much in FA other than resign Pryor and Crowell.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @thenew23 said:

    We do have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds. They "should" all be starter quality. A QB, OC, OLB, and maybe a CB. "Could" make a huge impact... I doubt we do much in FA other than resign Pryor and Crowell.

    Agree....except I think if they can get a young veteran OL, they may try for one in FA.

  • New Browns slogan:

    Play like a bitch for Mitch!

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    Mitch2Pryor said:

    New Browns slogan:

    Play like a bitch for Mitch!

    That could have different connotations.

  • PFF haters can get their knives out...

    Mitch is their 31st ranked prospect out of 32 in the class of '17... and he is a distant 2nd to the only other QB on the list.

    Otherwise there are a lot of names that are very popular around here... led by Garrett and Allen at #1 and #2 respectively.

    Let the PFF barbecue begin...

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-college-football-top-32-prospects-for-2017-nfl-draft/

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    PFF haters can get their knives out...

    Mitch is their 31st ranked prospect out of 32 in the class of '17... and he is a distant 2nd to the only other QB on the list.

    Otherwise there are a lot of names that are very popular around here... led by Garrett and Allen at #1 and #2 respectively.

    Let the PFF barbecue begin...

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-college-football-top-32-prospects-for-2017-nfl-draft/

    Do you think for a moment that all 32 pro teams ...or at least those looking for a QB are going to look at this and say: Oh, well, we will just have to wait for the end of round 1 or the beginning of round 2 to look at drafting him"?.

    And isn't this the same outfit that says the Browns OL is like among the Top Ten best in the NFL?

    Do our analytics nerds running this team follow the PFF formula?

  • @tour2ma said:

    PFF haters can get their knives out...

    Mitch is their 31st ranked prospect out of 32 in the class of '17... and he is a distant 2nd to the only other QB on the list.

    Otherwise there are a lot of names that are very popular around here... led by Garrett and Allen at #1 and #2 respectively.

    Let the PFF barbecue begin...

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-college-football-top-32-prospects-for-2017-nfl-draft/

    Did PFF factor in that he said he wanted to play for the Browns?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Did PFF factor in that he said he wanted to play for the Browns?

    I honestly don't give a flying fuck that he says he wants to play for the Browns....or that he is from this area. Those are just bonuses. I do give a flying fuck that the Browns need a franchise QB.....that they have the overall #1 pick that can get them that player....and that MT is the player that is almost universally said to be the best available that fits the bill.

    He fits the bill better than at least half the #1 overall QBs picked in the last 20 years.

    Here are the #1 overall pick QBs in the draft the last 20 years. AS A PROSPECT, how does MT match up against these guys:

    1998 Peyton

    1999 Couch

    2001 Vick

    2002 David Carr

    2003 Palmer

    2004 Eli

    2005 Alex Smith

    2007 Russell

    2009 Stafford

    2010 Bradford

    2011 Newton

    2012 Luck

    2015 Winston

    2016 Goff

    I say he ranks about in the middle of this group.

  • @gftchris said:

    I don't know, being shit is generally the only criterion there.

    Mitch Trubisky...hmmmm, you can spell Shitty in his name. The stars are certainly lining up.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Mitch Trubisky...hmmmm, you can spell Shitty in his name. The stars are certainly lining up.

    Or you can spell: I'm Tru Sky, Bitch with his name.

  • Should trade down take him with a low first round pick and then get the Notre Dame center with the first pick in the second round.

    WSS

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @westside-steve said:

    Should trade down take him with a low first round pick and then get the Notre Dame center with the first pick in the second round.

    WSS

    No matter what happens, Trubisky will be gone in the first 3 picks of the draft. If not by the Browns then someone else.

    So any talk of taking him lower in the first round is foolishness at this point, unless it is like found out that he has Leukemia or something. (remember Ernie Davis)

  • While I haven't watched much of the upcoming QB class, it should be interesting to see how it all shakes out

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta

    @roycerolls said:

    While I haven't watched much of the upcoming QB class, it should be interesting to see how it all shakes out

    Ya want to see Mitch? DVR December 30, 2PM CBS. North Carolina - Stanford.

    The playoffs should be on your list too. Washington's Qb is getting some run, and Watson (Clemson) plays against Ohio State.

    PS Mahome's Texas Tech went 5-7, & wasn't bowl eligible.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Should trade down take him with a low first round pick and then get the Notre Dame center with the first pick in the second round.

    WSS

    No matter what happens, Trubisky will be gone in the first 3 picks of the draft. If not by the Browns then someone else.

    So any talk of taking him lower in the first round is foolishness at this point, unless it is like found out that he has Leukemia or something. (remember Ernie Davis)

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    No matter what happens, Trubisky will be gone in the first 3 picks of the draft. If not by the Browns then someone else.

    So any talk of taking him lower in the first round is foolishness at this point, unless it is like found out that he has Leukemia or something. (remember Ernie Davis)

    Too early to tell right now. There's still free agency and bowl games and the combine. It's possible SF somehow lands a FA QB they're happy with. I believe EJ Manuel and Geno Smith are both hitting FA.

    Also a possibility, albeit an extremely rare one:

    • RG3 starts for us for the last 4 games and throws for 1600 yards, 16 TDs and 0 INTs over that span.
    • San Francisco offers us their first and second round picks for him and we take the deal. RG3 goes on to be extremely terrible for the 9ers.
    • Philadelphia loses every game for the rest of the season and nets us something like the 6th overall pick.
    • We go into the NFL Draft with picks #1, #2, #6, #33, #48, #65
    • We sign Luke Joeckel as RT and Chance Warmack as RG.
    • We take Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Mitch Trubisky, Adoree Jackson, Budda Baker, and Tyler Orlosky
    • In the 4-3, we'd havei Garrett and Nassib as true DE's, Allen as a 3-tech and Shelton at the 1-tech. Collins ROLB, Orchard LOLB, Kirksey MLB
    • In the 3-4, we'd have Garrett and Allen as DE's and Shelton at NT, with Kirksey and Davis at ILB.
    • We now have a new QB, RG, RT, and C on offense, and a new FS, CB2, DE, and other DL on defense.
    • We also still have 100 picks in the next 4 rounds.

    A guy can hope, right?

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by

    Saw a very new mock draft (about an hour old) that has us taking Mitch #1, and then Cam Robinson, OT from Bama, with the Eagles' pick. Can't say I'd hate that. We'd need a lot of help from the football gods for that to happen, but talk about filling some major needs...

    To build on that, don't be surprised to see the Browns trade back into the first round with (you guessed it!) the New England Patriots. The Patriots are notorious for trading back and acquiring picks, and would there really be THAT much difference from pick 33 to pick 30? So WHY would we want to do that? Well, I could see us doing that if the draft's top OG is available. His name is Dan Feeney I believe, and he plays for Indiana. He's a tough bastard, and that would fill another need. Yeah, we need safety, and yeah we need a corner...but we REALLY need another guard too.

  • @the-gipper said:

    No matter what happens, Trubisky will be gone in the first 3 picks of the draft. If not by the Browns then someone else.

    So any talk of taking him lower in the first round is foolishness at this point, unless it is like found out that he has Leukemia or something. (remember Ernie Davis)

    Too early to tell right now. There's still free agency and bowl games and the combine. It's possible SF somehow lands a FA QB they're happy with. I believe EJ Manuel and Geno Smith are both hitting FA.

    Also a possibility, albeit an extremely rare one:

    • RG3 starts for us for the last 4 games and throws for 1600 yards, 16 TDs and 0 INTs over that span.
    • San Francisco offers us their first and second round picks for him and we take the deal. RG3 goes on to be extremely terrible for the 9ers.
    • Philadelphia loses every game for the rest of the season and nets us something like the 6th overall pick.
    • We go into the NFL Draft with picks #1, #2, #6, #33, #48, #65
    • We sign Luke Joeckel as RT and Chance Warmack as RG.
    • We take Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Mitch Trubisky, Adoree Jackson, Budda Baker, and Tyler Orlosky
    • In the 4-3, we'd havei Garrett and Nassib as true DE's, Allen as a 3-tech and Shelton at the 1-tech. Collins ROLB, Orchard LOLB, Kirksey MLB
    • In the 3-4, we'd have Garrett and Allen as DE's and Shelton at NT, with Kirksey and Davis at ILB.
    • We now have a new QB, RG, RT, and C on offense, and a new FS, CB2, DE, and other DL on defense.
    • We also still have 100 picks in the next 4 rounds.

    A guy can hope, right?

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Too early to tell right now. There's still free agency and bowl games and the combine. It's possible SF somehow lands a FA QB they're happy with. I believe EJ Manuel and Geno Smith are both hitting FA.

    Also a possibility, albeit an extremely rare one:

    • RG3 starts for us for the last 4 games and throws for 1600 yards, 16 TDs and 0 INTs over that span.
    • San Francisco offers us their first and second round picks for him and we take the deal. RG3 goes on to be extremely terrible for the 9ers.
    • Philadelphia loses every game for the rest of the season and nets us something like the 6th overall pick.
    • We go into the NFL Draft with picks #1, #2, #6, #33, #48, #65
    • We sign Luke Joeckel as RT and Chance Warmack as RG.
    • We take Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Mitch Trubisky, Adoree Jackson, Budda Baker, and Tyler Orlosky
    • In the 4-3, we'd havei Garrett and Nassib as true DE's, Allen as a 3-tech and Shelton at the 1-tech. Collins ROLB, Orchard LOLB, Kirksey MLB
    • In the 3-4, we'd have Garrett and Allen as DE's and Shelton at NT, with Kirksey and Davis at ILB.
    • We now have a new QB, RG, RT, and C on offense, and a new FS, CB2, DE, and other DL on defense.
    • We also still have 100 picks in the next 4 rounds.

    A guy can hope, right?

    Wood.

  • @the-gipper said:

    No matter what happens, Trubisky will be gone in the first 3 picks of the draft. If not by the Browns then someone else.

    So any talk of taking him lower in the first round is foolishness at this point, unless it is like found out that he has Leukemia or something. (remember Ernie Davis)

    Too early to tell right now. There's still free agency and bowl games and the combine. It's possible SF somehow lands a FA QB they're happy with. I believe EJ Manuel and Geno Smith are both hitting FA.

    Also a possibility, albeit an extremely rare one:

    • RG3 starts for us for the last 4 games and throws for 1600 yards, 16 TDs and 0 INTs over that span.
    • San Francisco offers us their first and second round picks for him and we take the deal. RG3 goes on to be extremely terrible for the 9ers.
    • Philadelphia loses every game for the rest of the season and nets us something like the 6th overall pick.
    • We go into the NFL Draft with picks #1, #2, #6, #33, #48, #65
    • We sign Luke Joeckel as RT and Chance Warmack as RG.
    • We take Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Mitch Trubisky, Adoree Jackson, Budda Baker, and Tyler Orlosky
    • In the 4-3, we'd havei Garrett and Nassib as true DE's, Allen as a 3-tech and Shelton at the 1-tech. Collins ROLB, Orchard LOLB, Kirksey MLB
    • In the 3-4, we'd have Garrett and Allen as DE's and Shelton at NT, with Kirksey and Davis at ILB.
    • We now have a new QB, RG, RT, and C on offense, and a new FS, CB2, DE, and other DL on defense.
    • We also still have 100 picks in the next 4 rounds.

    A guy can hope, right?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Too early to tell right now. There's still free agency and bowl games and the combine. It's possible SF somehow lands a FA QB they're happy with. I believe EJ Manuel and Geno Smith are both hitting FA.

    Also a possibility, albeit an extremely rare one:

    • RG3 starts for us for the last 4 games and throws for 1600 yards, 16 TDs and 0 INTs over that span.
    • San Francisco offers us their first and second round picks for him and we take the deal. RG3 goes on to be extremely terrible for the 9ers.
    • Philadelphia loses every game for the rest of the season and nets us something like the 6th overall pick.
    • We go into the NFL Draft with picks #1, #2, #6, #33, #48, #65
    • We sign Luke Joeckel as RT and Chance Warmack as RG.
    • We take Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Mitch Trubisky, Adoree Jackson, Budda Baker, and Tyler Orlosky
    • In the 4-3, we'd havei Garrett and Nassib as true DE's, Allen as a 3-tech and Shelton at the 1-tech. Collins ROLB, Orchard LOLB, Kirksey MLB
    • In the 3-4, we'd have Garrett and Allen as DE's and Shelton at NT, with Kirksey and Davis at ILB.
    • We now have a new QB, RG, RT, and C on offense, and a new FS, CB2, DE, and other DL on defense.
    • We also still have 100 picks in the next 4 rounds.

    A guy can hope, right?

    Sure.

  • Saw a very new mock draft (about an hour old) that has us taking Mitch #1, and then Cam Robinson, OT from Bama, with the Eagles' pick. Can't say I'd hate that. We'd need a lot of help from the football gods for that to happen, but talk about filling some major needs...

    To build on that, don't be surprised to see the Browns trade back into the first round with (you guessed it!) the New England Patriots. The Patriots are notorious for trading back and acquiring picks, and would there really be THAT much difference from pick 33 to pick 30? So WHY would we want to do that? Well, I could see us doing that if the draft's top OG is available. His name is Dan Feeney I believe, and he plays for Indiana. He's a tough bastard, and that would fill another need. Yeah, we need safety, and yeah we need a corner...but we REALLY need another guard too.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Saw a very new mock draft (about an hour old) that has us taking Mitch #1, and then Cam Robinson, OT from Bama, with the Eagles' pick.

    Walter Football, correct?