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New ObaMao all-time record - 100 MILLION folks out of the labor force

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  • gftChris gftChrisG
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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    On a more serious note, the number of people of working age who are not actively seeking employment should be the useful metric here.

    - People who are retiring earlier than the federal/state retirement age because they've had a good career and are able to do so because of good investments etc shouldn't really count against the non-participation rate (and also shouldn't really count against any one presidential administration).

    - People who are retired shouldn't count. Social security is what, 65? 67? Something like that. And people over that counts for about 15% of people off the bat, around 20% of whom are still working (statistics will vary but these numbers are 'about there'), so you're looking at a little over 12% there.

    - People still in education shouldn't count. 23% of the US population is under 18. Maybe knock that down to 21-22% because som 16-17 year olds might have a part time job? About 20m people are in college, good for about 6% of the population. Call it 3% because I'm sure at least half are doing something to put themselves through college.

    So, 12 + 21 + 3 = 36% of the population isn't really going to count against this. Meaning 64% of the population is going to count against it. And the numbers in the OP suggest 62.7% of people are in the labour force. Rough numbers aside, it looks like it's about close to what it should be.

    The important information to consider isn't really counted there, and that's hours worked per eligible person - if someone works a paper route for 2 hours per week, are they counted as being in the labour force? One knock that there's been on the jobs growth is that the jobs aren't really what they seem, with requirements for employees who work over a certain amount of hours per week to have whatever perks meaning those hours are being cut and given to someone else, so what is really only one 48 hour per week job is being split in to three 16 hour jobs.

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      Get out of here with you liberal statistics

      Obamao + big number = BAD!

      End of story.

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

        You say quibbling because you posted a number you didn't understand and then got called out on it.

        Now you're rambling on about what you think the left did before.

        More old people = more people out of the workforce.

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        @mld-woody said:

        You say quibbling because you posted a number you didn't understand and then got called out on it.

        Now you're rambling on about what you think the left did before.

        More old people = more people out of the workforce.

        you've never called anybody out on anything, woodypeckerhead.

        It's just an excuse to protect the gutless liberal weinie entitlement mess made far worse by Obamao.

        For instance:

        http://www.bls.gov/opub/ils/pdf/opbils81.pdf

        "Record unemployment among older workers does not keep them out of the job market"

        Life under Obama sucks. And these numbers prove it - Telegraph
        www.telegraph.co.uk › News › World News › Barack Obama

        Oct 28, 2014 - Things are worse for black Americans, whose poverty rate has risen ... Finally, even the much praised unemployment rates can be misleading.

        Tavis Smiley: On Every Leading Economic Issue Black Americans ...
        www.thegatewaypundit.com/.../tavis-smiley-on-every-leading-economic-...

        Jan 11, 2016 - For blacks, it's worse. ... these democrats like keeping minorities dumb and unemployed and on ... is swimning in wealth under this administration according to Larry Elder. .... Just like Tavis will be humping Barry's again even without any ballz. ... Black Americans voted for Obama at the 98% level, twice.

        they are not all elderly, birdbrain. Blaming it on "more "elderly" is just ignorant.

        Nobody is going to excuse obaMao's failures because there is more old folks, republicans,

        and not being able to be asswholish long enough around here, with no opposition.

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          http://www.actionforex.com/articles-library/financial-glossary/unemployment-20041209484/


          The sample survey has its own problems, because the total number of workers in the economy is based on guesses rather than a census. So many economists look to the survey of employers to get a better estimate of the number of jobs created or destroyed.


          Due to these deficiencies, many labor market economists prefer to look at a range of economic statistics such as:


          • Labour market participation rate (the percentage of people aged between 15 and 64 who are currently employed or searching for employment)
          • The total number of full-time jobs in an economy
          • The number of people seeking work as a raw number and not a percentage
          • The total number of person-hours worked in a month compared to the total number of person-hours people would like to work
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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            Now you seem to be vomiting as many other links and statistics you can in this thread that you think make Obama look bad. All while getting further from the original statistic you posted.

            I'll try to remember to look through it all later. Or maybe Chris will.

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              Now you seem to be vomiting as many other links and statistics you can in this thread that you think make Obama look bad. All while getting further from the original statistic you posted.

              I'll try to remember to look through it all later. Or maybe Chris will.

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              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              I'll try to remember to look through it all later. Or maybe Chris will.

              Yeah good luck with that. One OP, one counter.

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                The Blaze's "report" is utter nonsense:

                First of all, the total US population (FY2015), from newborns to the oldest American, is around 320 million people. If you subtract out the number of citizens who normally don't fully participate in the workforce anyway - those under the age of 18 (73,645,000) and above the age of 70 (31,693,000) - this leaves a maximum possible workforce (ages 18-70) of around 214,662,000.

                So, if the Blaze's "report" is to be believed, and 100 million people are not participating in the workforce, that would come out to an unemployment rate of 46.6%. To put that in perspective, that would place the US within the top 10 countries with the highest unemployment rates, somewhere between the Republic of the Congo and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Or, to put it another way, even the highest unemployment rate of the Great Depression, 1934, was 25%.

                Funny how some of these claims become dubious when you bother to actually look into them deep enough.

                But, the conservative zealots eat up whatever garbage the Blaze spits out and believes it like it's gospel.

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                @jbluhm86 said:

                The Blaze's "report" is utter nonsense:

                cal was promised there would be no math...

                In light of current developments I'm thinking of doing a Fake News audit of this forum for 2016. See who has posted how many in new threads during ... and how big the gap is between cal and "field".

                Would you be interested in helping? Maybe a few other "flaming libs" could join in as well to distribute the load. There's only about 56 pages of treads started in 2016.

                "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  Well, libs will be starting them when Trump is in office, like the eight years of Bush's presidency.

                  Have a nice day and quit whining, only 5 weeks away !

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    You really don't know anything about how to win, do you?

                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      I voted for Trump, Hillary athletic supporter.

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                        @jbluhm86 said:

                        The Blaze's "report" is utter nonsense:

                        cal was promised there would be no math...

                        In light of current developments I'm thinking of doing a Fake News audit of this forum for 2016. See who has posted how many in new threads during ... and how big the gap is between cal and "field".

                        Would you be interested in helping? Maybe a few other "flaming libs" could join in as well to distribute the load. There's only about 56 pages of treads started in 2016.

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        @tour2ma said:

                        cal was promised there would be no math...

                        In light of current developments I'm thinking of doing a Fake News audit of this forum for 2016. See who has posted how many in new threads during ... and how big the gap is between cal and "field".

                        Would you be interested in helping? Maybe a few other "flaming libs" could join in as well to distribute the load. There's only about 56 pages of treads started in 2016.

                        oh geez man... it's the holidays

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          @jbluhm86 said:

                          The Blaze's "report" is utter nonsense:

                          cal was promised there would be no math...

                          In light of current developments I'm thinking of doing a Fake News audit of this forum for 2016. See who has posted how many in new threads during ... and how big the gap is between cal and "field".

                          Would you be interested in helping? Maybe a few other "flaming libs" could join in as well to distribute the load. There's only about 56 pages of treads started in 2016.

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                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                          @tour2ma said:

                          cal was promised there would be no math...

                          In light of current developments I'm thinking of doing a Fake News audit of this forum for 2016. See who has posted how many in new threads during ... and how big the gap is between cal and "field".

                          Would you be interested in helping? Maybe a few other "flaming libs" could join in as well to distribute the load. There's only about 56 pages of treads started in 2016.

                          You mean the gap from 1 to 2? Or like military spending, the gap between 1 and 'the total of everyone else'?

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                            jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-08/applications-for-jobless-benefits-in-u-s-fell-in-latest-week
                            "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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