Mad Dog Mattis chosen for secretary of defense
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Too bad he's not eligible to be SoD...
You think a waiver from the Congress would be hard to get?
Do you have any reason to oppose him? Or just GP?
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You think a waiver from the Congress would be hard to get?
Do you have any reason to oppose him? Or just GP?
WSS
I was going to mention the waiver. I don't think he will get much resistance from Congress.
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You think a waiver from the Congress would be hard to get?
Do you have any reason to oppose him? Or just GP?
Well since only one has ever been granted and when it was Congress stated that none should ever be granted again... yes, I hope it's hard to get.
Nice assumption on my opposition BTW...
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You think a waiver from the Congress would be hard to get?
Do you have any reason to oppose him? Or just GP?
Well since only one has ever been granted and when it was Congress stated that none should ever be granted again... yes, I hope it's hard to get.
Nice assumption on my opposition BTW...
Well since only one has ever been granted and when it was Congress stated that none should ever be granted again... yes, I hope it's hard to get.
Nice assumption on my opposition BTW...
Hoping the waiver is hard to get sounds like opposition to me.
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He'll get the waiver.
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You think a waiver from the Congress would be hard to get?
Do you have any reason to oppose him? Or just GP?
Well since only one has ever been granted and when it was Congress stated that none should ever be granted again... yes, I hope it's hard to get.
Nice assumption on my opposition BTW...
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Hoping the waiver is hard to get sounds like opposition to me.
Then get your hearing checked... it was a statement of general principle based upon precedent... and the law. Are you in favor of making it easy to break laws?
Now... what I have heard so far concerning "Maddog" sounds promising. Particularly reports of his discussion with Trump concerning the use of torture. So at least in one instance there's evidence that there's a rational mind in line for an important position.
Seems about time to resurrect my "Cabinet Watch" thread...
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Easy to break the law, Tour? That's a little harsh, if you consider granting the waiver breaking the law. So if you think the general is a well-qualified individual who would be a fine secretary of Defense why wouldn't you think the waiver is a good and proper thing?
Unless of course obstructionism for spite is going to be the game plan for the next two or four years.
3. 2. 1...
WSS
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Easy to break the law, Tour? That's a little harsh, if you consider granting the waiver breaking the law. So if you think the general is a well-qualified individual who would be a fine secretary of Defense why wouldn't you think the waiver is a good and proper thing?
Unless of course obstructionism for spite is going to be the game plan for the next two or four years.
3. 2. 1...
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Easy to break the law? That's a little harsh, if you consider granting the waiver breaking the law. So if you think the general is a well-qualified individual who would be a fine secretary of Defense why wouldn't you think the waiver is a good and proper thing?
Because presumably the law exists for a reason, and you either get the law overturned if it's not relevant, or it should be damn hard to get a waiver.
Unless of course obstructionism for spite is going to be the game plan for the next two or four years.
Well it's been the plan for the last 8 years...
WSS
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The law presumably exists from the 1940s is to keep so many military officers from being involved in the civilian run military.
Huge surge of nationalism after the second World War. At least here in America. That's no longer the case and unless you have an actual b**** with the general I'd say the waiver is warranted.
WSS
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I don't have a problem with the guy (yet?) but that's not the point. Still.
I expect the law will be overturned shortly then?
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And thanks for the 3 2 1 triggered response, I'm surprised it was you and not Tour but.
As you might recall from your reading I was okay with giving Merrick Garland a hearing, he didn't seem like a bad choice compared to what Hillary probably would have put up.
And it was much more than spite it was a strategy because the apparent Democratic nominee was going to be such a distasteful candidate that at that time it seemed as if the Republicans would win the White House and be able to balance the court with a more Centrist nominee.
Seems that worked out even though at the time those best-laid plans that aft gang agley...
WSS
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I don't have a problem with the guy (yet?) but that's not the point. Still.
I expect the law will be overturned shortly then?
I don't have a problem with the guy (yet?) but that's not the point. Still.
I expect the law will be overturned shortly then?
I guess, maybe, why not?
It's an eighty-year-old law and I'm sure you don't want to disappoint your protégé Woody by being an old man resistant to change.
WSS
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I remember when we could just have a conversation, Steve. You wouldn't just talking in what's now become clichés and catchphrases, but we could actually discuss things like adults. You wouldn't put words in my mouth and then criticise them. You would actually be able to talk in points and counterpoints, not lump everyone who disagrees with you in to the same pigeonhole. Where's that guy? I'd like to see him come back.
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I remember when we could just have a conversation, Steve. You wouldn't just talking in what's now become clichés and catchphrases, but we could actually discuss things like adults. You wouldn't put words in my mouth and then criticise them. You would actually be able to talk in points and counterpoints, not lump everyone who disagrees with you in to the same pigeonhole. Where's that guy? I'd like to see him come back.
I remember when we could just have a conversation, Steve. You wouldn't just talking in what's now become clichés and catchphrases, but we could actually discuss things like adults. You wouldn't put words in my mouth and then criticise them. You would actually be able to talk in points and counterpoints, not lump everyone who disagrees with you in to the same pigeonhole. Where's that guy? I'd like to see him come back.
Sorry my friend. I haven't been rude or snotty. Don't know what you expect of me. I disagreed with the Republicans on the handling of Merrick Garland and I feel the possible blowback against the general is just spite.
It was you that made that comparison right?
Speaking of a rational conversation was your response not something along the lines of well that's what you guys did? I'm serious.
Otherwise if you have serious problems with granting this waiver I'd be happy to read them should you care to give me a list.
PS I promise not to get angry about a little sarcasm.
WSS
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And it was tour who hoped for a long and difficult process.
WSS
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I agree with Tour that in principle it should not be a trivial thing to get a waiver against a law. Perhaps this guy is worthy, but that should not be a hasty decision.
I made no comparison between Garland and Mattis. You did, then criticised the comparison, while saying I'm 'triggered'.
You got my response part right - "that's what the republicans did for eight years", yes, but you seem to be implying that I'm advocating the same from the democratic party for at least the next four years, which I'm not.
Then, for no apparent reason, a crack about woody and me agreeing on most things.
It's hard enough to have a rational conversation on here, but when stuff like this is happening it's nigh on impossible. If you want me to clarify anything (that we haven't already been over a thousand times...), ask.
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"well it's been the plan for the last 8 years" is a direct quote.
If I misinterpreted that as a reference to the Supreme Court nomination I apologize.
If it wasn't, just for my own reference what was it about then?
And I think you're overly offended by a simple joke about Woody because he's the guy who repeatedly gripes that old people don't like change. As in changing an 80 year old law based on the circumstances of World War II. No hate intended toward either of you.
(a law which you indeed wondered if it should not be changed if I'm not mistaken.)
Frankly I have yet to hear any Democrat voice objections to the general so I can't really see another reason to block his nomination other than retaliation for justice Garland. Or possibly some other perceived transgression of the last 8 years.
By the way maybe unrelated, maybe not, but Chuck Schumer is already threatening filibuster on the Supreme Court nomination.
So I guess my point remains that General Mattis seems to be pretty well-respected across the aisle so in the absence of a Tit for Tat I can't think of a reason to block the nomination.
WSS
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