Anyone Else Think Collins Doesn't Wanna Be Here

Tour2ma

I don't "see it" either... remember his Browns tape will have role in setting his price no matter where he ends up.

@mudfly said:

34 tackles in 4 games...leads our team for that span....so, if being our best player means invisible...then so be it

edit:....and, Ill add that Kruger had 27 tackles in 16 games last season....one just has to do the math....

Is there am expiration date on Kruger references?

Canton Dawg

@mudfly said:

34 tackles in 4 games...leads our team for that span....so, if being our best player means invisible...then so be it

edit:....and, Ill add that Kruger had 27 tackles in 16 games last season....one just has to do the math....

He played with a lot of intensity in the Stoolers game, then against the Giants he seemed to give a half assed effort on several plays.

This was a topic of discussion on radio a couple of weeks back, so there seems to some merit to this.

I missed the first quarter of today's game, so I'm not sure what kind of effort he's put in so far.

We'll find out more at season's end.

Mudfly

@tour2ma said:
Is there am expiration date on Kruger references?

End of season...though Im only trying to show how significant of an upgrade Collins is....not really slam Kruger

@canton-dawg said:

He played with a lot of intensity in the Stoolers game, then against the Giants he seemed to give a half assed effort on several plays.

This was a topic of discussion on radio a couple of weeks back, so there seems to some merit to this.

I missed the first quarter of today's game, so I'm not sure what kind of effort he's put in so far.

We'll find out more at season's end.

9 tackles so far today....still the 3rd.....just not seeing any negatives in his play(on this D especially)....

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@mudfly said:

34 tackles in 4 games...leads our team for that span....so, if being our best player means invisible...then so be it

edit:....and, Ill add that Kruger had 27 tackles in 16 games last season....one just has to do the math....

Well if Kruger wasn't being misused he would have done better

Richiswhere

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
Well if Kruger wasn't being misused he would have done better

Glad to see he's reach his full potential with the Saints

Mudfly

invisible today...especially.....led both teams in tackles.....

13 tackles...2 assists and a sack...

alporcini

@canton-dawg said:

He played with a lot of intensity in the Stoolers game, then against the Giants he seemed to give a half assed effort on several plays.

This was a topic of discussion on radio a couple of weeks back, so there seems to some merit to this.

I missed the first quarter of today's game, so I'm not sure what kind of effort he's put in so far.

We'll find out more at season's end.

Question was/is... think he's coming back? Think he wants to come back?

TexasAg1969

@alporcini said:

Question was/is... think he's coming back? Think he wants to come back?

Promise to fill this draft with D and he'll be back.

miktoxic

didn't we do that a couple years back?

nothing really to show for it. man, who hires our scouts and drafting personnel? i know it was a past regime but it's as if there's a monster in the closet or a team of gremlins that come in the night before the draft and just throw down new notes and the assholes in the FO no matter who it is, just walk into the draft brain dead like a zombie.

Dawgs89

Why would he want to be here? He went from one of the best teams to a potential 0-16 team. Now, whether he plays hard ( His job) or not is a different story.

Babernakle

He has been great despite being on this team. I am sure he is staying or they wouldn't had got him in the first place not like they were making a playoff push

Orion

He's played pretty well for us.

He had a rough first game, giving up on covering the RB for an easy TD pitch and catch....but he was only on the team a few days and wasn't in our defensive flow.

...and, OF COURSE he wants the hell out-a-here.

Tour2ma

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
Well if Kruger wasn't being misused he would have done better

If not pink, then could at least italicize...

@texasag1969 said:
Promise to fill this draft with D and he'll be back.

Waste of a promise since he can see our draft before committing to any team.

jcam222

@mudfly said:

invisible today...especially.....led both teams in tackles.....

13 tackles...2 assists and a sack...

lol no shit, WTF were some of thes guys watching??

Clevfan4life

Ofc he doesnt "want" to be here. Nobody does

TexasAg1969

@tour2ma said:

Waste of a promise since he can see our draft before committing to any team.

I thought the FA signings start in March and the draft in April. Does he not come under FA?

gumby73

@texasag1969 said:

I thought the FA signings start in March and the draft in April. Does he not come under FA?

1st comes tag(luv). 2nd comes FA(marrage). 3rd draft(kids) cycle never ends.. Just bring lots of money

Tour2ma

2017

January 1: Week 17.

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January 2: Option exercise period begins for Fifth-Year Option for First- Round Selections from the 2014 NFL Draft. To exercise the option, the club must give written notice to the player on or after January 2, 2017, but prior to May 3, 2017.

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I don't see anything about the end of the UFA period.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000677028/article/important-nfl-dates-for-201617

gftChris

January 2: Option exercise period begins for Fifth-Year Option for First- Round Selections from the 2014 NFL Draft. To exercise the option, the club must give written notice to the player on or after January 2, 2017, but prior to May 3, 2017.

So, you think we'll pick up the option on Gilbert or Manziel?

TexasAg1969

Tour-that goes back to my point that if they want to make sure Collins stays, then they had better get him signed as FA period starts or make sure he understands they will bring him superior D players in the draft while negotiating from the start of FA period on. It does appear there is some overrun time with the draft, but he can also sign with anyone he wants before the draft begins if I understand FA signing rules correctly. I would hope we sign him before FA opens up. We certainly have the cap space. Aren't we allowed to do that if he is agreeable?