Who won "National Title" at HS level?

[The Gipper]

Perhaps this is for Hammertime who has followed this sort of thing in the past: Who is getting run for the "mythical" High School National Championship? I haven't heard. A couple of different groups in the past have name champs: USA Today and others.

Any info on that?

[mjp28]

I remember back in the 1960s I believe it was the AP and now long extinct UPI news bureaus did the writers and coaches polls and did that every year they also ranked the Ohio championship teams.

My alma Mater NILES MCKINLEY RED DRAGONS were #1 in 1961 and 1963 in both and #2 in 1966 my junior year and ranked in the top 10 nationally.

I quit getting the USA TODAY a few years back but they listed the high school top 25 I think they might have used:

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/Ma5qHhjF40KSRBoPSWLwAg/maxpreps-final-top-25-high-school-football-rankings.htm

[mjp28]

Oh I just checked USA TODAY :

Super 25 Computer rankings are provided by Ken Massey. The ratings are designed to reward teams for their performance, and objectively quantify those performances. Strength of schedule is built into the model. The model also corrects for home field advantage. Teams lose less for a loss on the road and gain more for a win on the road. Margin of victory also is factored in. Because some of the data is based on past performances, the computer will be more accurate as the season progresses. Once a team plays three games, the computer can better slot how it stacks up against teams nationally. Note: Click "National" dropdown to select your state.

http://usatodayhss.com/rankings/computer/boys/football/US/2016/1

And in Ohio:

http://usatodayhss.com/rankings/computer/boys/football/OH/2016/1

[The Gipper]

@mjp28 said:

I remember back in the 1960s I believe it was the AP and now long extinct UPI news bureaus did the writers and coaches polls and did that every year they also ranked the Ohio championship teams.

My alma Mater NILES MCKINLEY RED DRAGONS were #1 in 1961 and 1963 in both and #2 in 1966 my junior year and ranked in the top 10 nationally.

I quit getting the USA TODAY a few years back but they listed the high school top 25 I think they might have used:

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/Ma5qHhjF40KSRBoPSWLwAg/maxpreps-final-top-25-high-school-football-rankings.htm

This must be last year, as it has St. Eds winning the State title, which they didn't Cincinnatti St. Xavier did.

[The Gipper]

Here is something I found in Wikipedia that compiles all the national titles ever won since the early 1900s:

National Championships by school (multiple winners only)[edit] School Championships Years

Massillon, OH, Washington 9 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1959, 1961

Concord, CA, De La Salle 7 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003

Valdosta, GA 6 1962, 1969, 1971, 1984, 1986, 1992

Miami, FL 5 1942, 1943, 1960, 1962,1965

Cincinnati, OH, Moeller 5 1976, 1977, 1979, 1980, 1982

Oak Park, IL 5 1910, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1920

Coral Gables, FL 4 1964, 1967, 1968, 1969

Austin, TX, Reagan 3 1967, 1968, 1970

Berwick, PA 3 1983, 1992, 1995

Cleveland, OH, St. Ignatius 3 1989, 1993, 1995

Southlake, TX, Carroll 3 2004, 2005, 2006

Canton, OH, McKinley 2 1997, 1998

Everett, MA 2 1914, 1915

Fort Lauderdale, FL, St. Thomas Aquinas 2 2008, 2010

Lakeland, FL 2 2005, 2006

Las Vegas, NV, Bishop Gorman 2 2014, 2015

Little Rock, AR, Central 2 1946, 1957

Odessa, TX, Permian 2 1972, 1989

Pine Bluff, AR 2 1925, 1939

Ramsey, NJ, Don Bosco Prep 2 2009, 2011

Santa Ana, CA, Mater Dei 2 1994, 1996

Toledo, OH, Scott 2 1922, 1923

Toledo, OH, Waite 2 1924, 1932

Tuscaloosa, AL 2 1926, 1929

Waco, TX, 2 1927, 1948

Warner Robins, GA 2 1976, 1981

[The Gipper]

@mjp28 said:

Oh I just checked USA TODAY :

Super 25 Computer rankings are provided by Ken Massey. The ratings are designed to reward teams for their performance, and objectively quantify those performances. Strength of schedule is built into the model. The model also corrects for home field advantage. Teams lose less for a loss on the road and gain more for a win on the road. Margin of victory also is factored in. Because some of the data is based on past performances, the computer will be more accurate as the season progresses. Once a team plays three games, the computer can better slot how it stacks up against teams nationally. Note: Click "National" dropdown to select your state.

http://usatodayhss.com/rankings/computer/boys/football/US/2016/1

And in Ohio:

http://usatodayhss.com/rankings/computer/boys/football/OH/2016/1

So, per USA Today Bishop Gorman, Las Vegas NV is "mythical" national Champ.

[mjp28]

@the-gipper said:

So, per USA Today Bishop Gorman, Las Vegas NV is "mythical" national Champ.

A lot of perennial football powerhouses on that list.

Also shows the shift in population over the past ~50 years redistributing the power teams largely to the South and West.

[Canton Dawg]

I remember the '97 & '98 Canton McKinley teams.

Thom McDaniels was the HC, with his 2 sons playing on that team (Josh & Ben).

[annealexander]

Yes, they were amazing in '97 and '98 here

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