RG III to start against Bengals
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"RG III proved that he belongs out there so we can be assured of #1 overall."-Huey-Dewey-Louie
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I think we'll see Kessler start one more game before the year is out. But, let's give Bobby G another game or two to see if he can remember how to attempt a pass under 50 yards downfield or to an open receiver. And there were plenty of open receivers yesterday.
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I see the high ball to Devalve as just another evidence of grip issues which were in ample evidence all game with the exception of the TD drive.
It's occurred to me that grip strength could be just a piece of a more general, literal, arm-strength issue. How many weeks in a sling? How many more of reduced inactivity? When did strengthening rehab begin?
Seemed like when he did cut loose, then he was trying throws his mind remembered his arm being capable of... but the arm (hand) failed.
Then there's the whole other issue of the mind obviously processing about a beat and a half slow...
... except for that one drive.
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I see the high ball to Devalve as just another evidence of grip issues which were in ample evidence all game with the exception of the TD drive.
It's occurred to me that grip strength could be just a piece of a more general, literal, arm-strength issue. How many weeks in a sling? How many more of reduced inactivity? When did strengthening rehab begin?
Seemed like when he did cut loose, then he was trying throws his mind remembered his arm being capable of... but the arm (hand) failed.
Then there's the whole other issue of the mind obviously processing about a beat and a half slow...
... except for that one drive.
It's occurred to me that grip strength could be just a piece of a more general, literal, arm-strength issue. How many weeks in a sling? How many more of reduced inactivity? When did strengthening rehab begin?
Pretty sure he injured his left arm, no?
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i think RG3 will start, but he won't finish against the Bills. Hopefully he's replaced by Kessler and not McCown.
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What are the rules as far as tie breakers go for the #1 pick?
I've posted it in another thread BB. It's strength of schedule. If we wind up tied with the 49ers- we're screwed. The League figures all things being equal- if you've played teams with fewer wins- you must suck worse. We have several common opponents with them- Cowboys, Patriots, Jets, Bills, Dolphins. So toss those out. They've played a much weaker division schedule- Rams, & the Cardinals and Seahawks losing today didn't do us any favors. (those count X2) Plus they've played the lousy Bears and Panthers. I suppose if SOS turned out identical, it would be head to head. I don't think it goes past that, the next would probably be a coin flip.
OTOH, we have the (better) Ravens and Steelers X2, Redskins, Titans and Giants.
San Fran finishes out with the Falcons & Rams on the road, and home against the Seahawks. The game today with the Jets was their best chance at a win. Their odds of winning any of those are not good. Of course I think our chances of winning any of our remaining three aren't exactly stellar either.
I've posted it in another thread BB. It's strength of schedule. If we wind up tied with the 49ers- we're screwed. The League figures all things being equal- if you've played teams with fewer wins- you must suck worse. We have several common opponents with them- Cowboys, Patriots, Jets, Bills, Dolphins. So toss those out. They've played a much weaker division schedule- Rams, & the Cardinals and Seahawks losing today didn't do us any favors. (those count X2) Plus they've played the lousy Bears and Panthers. I suppose if SOS turned out identical, it would be head to head. I don't think it goes past that, the next would probably be a coin flip.
OTOH, we have the (better) Ravens and Steelers X2, Redskins, Titans and Giants.
San Fran finishes out with the Falcons & Rams on the road, and home against the Seahawks. The game today with the Jets was their best chance at a win. Their odds of winning any of those are not good. Of course I think our chances of winning any of our remaining three aren't exactly stellar either.
The Rams may be worse than the Browns and the 49ers at this point. Really.
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I suspect some people made money Sunday just betting that Griffin would stay upright in this game.
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I have no idea what Hue Jackson was thinking. RG III didn't even look like he could complete the easiest of passes for most of the day. There were many awful examples, but the worst for me was the throw to Devalve in the redzone. We desperately needed a first down, and Robert threw the ball 2000 miles per hour about 8 feet over the tight end. Devalve wasn't wide open, but he was OPEN. An accurate throw is a near sure first down, and a decent throw to the athletic Devalve gives us a shot. The announcers were like, "WTF was THAT?" The same reaction we all had.
Yeah, the weather isn't doing him any favors, and I'd give ANYTHING to have a dome game, or a game at San Diego. But no...this is US we're talking about here. Our two remaining road games are against the damn Bills and the Steelers. Let's just say it will be miserable playing conditions...yet again. And of course our home game against the Bolts will be just perfect conditions I'm sure. The weather is no excuse, as Dalton appeared to be doing well enough, but I'm sure it doesn't help a guy who hasn't played hardly at all in three years. What a cluster chicken.
And Hue ALREADY said that RG III is starting against the Bills?! REALLY?! Hue said that, "RG III proved that he belongs out there." REALLY?!!! Maybe Hue is just honing in on that first pick, LOL. The only thing RG III does is present the threat of running, and you could see how that affected the defense. The running game didn't come to life for no reason. But if he can't complete the smallest of passes, what's the point?
Maybe I should get off his back. Maybe I should try to understand that it's been a while for him...but my GOD. A ZERO QB RATING in the first half? If we just got ONE TOUCHDOWN in the first half, we'd have been in that damn game. UGH.
I have no idea what Hue Jackson was thinking. RG III didn't even look like he could complete the easiest of passes for most of the day. There were many awful examples, but the worst for me was the throw to Devalve in the redzone. We desperately needed a first down, and Robert threw the ball 2000 miles per hour about 8 feet over the tight end. Devalve wasn't wide open, but he was OPEN. An accurate throw is a near sure first down, and a decent throw to the athletic Devalve gives us a shot. The announcers were like, "WTF was THAT?" The same reaction we all had.
Yeah, the weather isn't doing him any favors, and I'd give ANYTHING to have a dome game, or a game at San Diego. But no...this is US we're talking about here. Our two remaining road games are against the damn Bills and the Steelers. Let's just say it will be miserable playing conditions...yet again. And of course our home game against the Bolts will be just perfect conditions I'm sure. The weather is no excuse, as Dalton appeared to be doing well enough, but I'm sure it doesn't help a guy who hasn't played hardly at all in three years. What a cluster chicken.
And Hue ALREADY said that RG III is starting against the Bills?! REALLY?! Hue said that, "RG III proved that he belongs out there." REALLY?!!! Maybe Hue is just honing in on that first pick, LOL. The only thing RG III does is present the threat of running, and you could see how that affected the defense. The running game didn't come to life for no reason. But if he can't complete the smallest of passes, what's the point?
Maybe I should get off his back. Maybe I should try to understand that it's been a while for him...but my GOD. A ZERO QB RATING in the first half? If we just got ONE TOUCHDOWN in the first half, we'd have been in that damn game. UGH.
jiggins, MHO here's the possibilities why Hue wants to keep the RG III experiment going.
1) He's blind.
2) Really believes Griffin was just "rusty".
3) Doesn't want to admit signing Robert was a humongous mistake.
4) Loves the fact RG III can throw the ball out of the stadium, (unlike Kessler) but overlooks where it's coming down is a mystery.
5) Secretly is pining for that #1 overall pick, though that's probably unlikely.
If he sticks with Griff- it will be his albatross. Haslam may not interfere, but if our crack analytics guys come to the conclusion RG III is a lost cause, they'll have no hesitation sending him packing after the season.
I see the high ball to Devalve as just another evidence of grip issues which were in ample evidence all game with the exception of the TD drive.
It's occurred to me that grip strength could be just a piece of a more general, literal, arm-strength issue. How many weeks in a sling? How many more of reduced inactivity? When did strengthening rehab begin?
Seemed like when he did cut loose, then he was trying throws his mind remembered his arm being capable of... but the arm (hand) failed.
Then there's the whole other issue of the mind obviously processing about a beat and a half slow...
... except for that one drive.
Yup, throws in the dirt, or 10 feet over the guys head. Or you didn't notice the triple coverage?
The Rams may be worse than the Browns and the 49ers at this point. Really.
Well record wise- we can't catch the Rams, but their Front Office might just have passed the Browns in stupidity. Breaking news. After signing Jeff Fisher to a contract extension- they just fired him. When I saw that on NFL.com, my jaw almost hit the floor.
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Well record wise- we can't catch the Rams, but their Front Office might just have passed the Browns in stupidity. Breaking news. After signing Jeff Fisher to a contract extension- they just fired him. When I saw that on NFL.com, my jaw almost hit the floor.
Are you freeking serious?
http://nypost.com/2016/12/12/rams-finally-pull-plug-on-jeff-fisher-at-strange-time/
I guess you could call that extension a Golden Parachute of sorts for a guy they knew they were letting go.
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I can buy the "rust" factor to a degree, and even to the point of starting him next week against the bills. But if the mofo puts up a half like he did this week it's time pull the hook and bring back Kessler.
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Regarding ticket sales, I doubt it. With bad weather, I'm expecting a near record sparse crowd. Bungle fans won't make the trip, they've already mailed in the season.
Bottom level end zone tickets are going for $15-20...browns sideline section 135-ish for $50....yea it's going to be pretty desolate there.
They should offer 50 cent beers.
Bottom level end zone tickets are going for $15-20...browns sideline section 135-ish for $50....yea it's going to be pretty desolate there.
They should offer 50 cent beers.
if they had offered 50 cent beers, you would have seen better tackling technique in the stands than on the field in our case. that alone would have offered incredible entertainment..
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I've posted it in another thread BB. It's strength of schedule. If we wind up tied with the 49ers- we're screwed. The League figures all things being equal- if you've played teams with fewer wins- you must suck worse. We have several common opponents with them- Cowboys, Patriots, Jets, Bills, Dolphins. So toss those out. They've played a much weaker division schedule- Rams, & the Cardinals and Seahawks losing today didn't do us any favors. (those count X2) Plus they've played the lousy Bears and Panthers. I suppose if SOS turned out identical, it would be head to head. I don't think it goes past that, the next would probably be a coin flip.
OTOH, we have the (better) Ravens and Steelers X2, Redskins, Titans and Giants.
San Fran finishes out with the Falcons & Rams on the road, and home against the Seahawks. The game today with the Jets was their best chance at a win. Their odds of winning any of those are not good. Of course I think our chances of winning any of our remaining three aren't exactly stellar either.
The Rams may be worse than the Browns and the 49ers at this point. Really.
The Rams may be worse than the Browns and the 49ers at this point. Really.
No... not with that D... not on the field.
But the Rams' locker room was toxic after the game. Gurley was openly talking about going thru the motions... just getting paid. Press took those comments to team-leader Oggletree who basically said he'd kick Todd's ass.
More then likely that sealed Fisher's fate if it needed any sealing.
I suspect some people made money Sunday just betting that Griffin would stay upright in this game.
Nope... I took the 4-game parlay...
Yup, throws in the dirt, or 10 feet over the guys head. Or you didn't notice the triple coverage?
Nope... because there wasn't triple coverage as the all-22, in-game replay clearly showed.
TP was doubled. CC was singled. The other Safety was playing centerfield. The pass lacked so much zip the centerfielder simply had time to join the double.
The bigger question for our staff is wtf tipped the play. No one bit on the flea. Everyone played the flicker. And it wasn't as if that's an everyday play from the 2...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The Rams may be worse than the Browns and the 49ers at this point. Really.
No... not with that D... not on the field.
But the Rams' locker room was toxic after the game. Gurley was openly talking about going thru the motions... just getting paid. Press took those comments to team-leader Oggletree who basically said he'd kick Todd's ass.
More then likely that sealed Fisher's fate if it needed any sealing.
I suspect some people made money Sunday just betting that Griffin would stay upright in this game.
Nope... I took the 4-game parlay...
Yup, throws in the dirt, or 10 feet over the guys head. Or you didn't notice the triple coverage?
Nope... because there wasn't triple coverage as the all-22, in-game replay clearly showed.
TP was doubled. CC was singled. The other Safety was playing centerfield. The pass lacked so much zip the centerfielder simply had time to join the double.
The bigger question for our staff is wtf tipped the play. No one bit on the flea. Everyone played the flicker. And it wasn't as if that's an everyday play from the 2...
No... not with that D... not on the field.
The team still has to want to play....the Rams don't....or didn't. With the firing of Fisher things may improve.
But the Rams' locker room was toxic after the game. Gurley was openly talking about going thru the motions... just getting paid. Press took those comments to team-leader Oggletree who basically said he'd kick Todd's ass.
More then likely that sealed Fisher's fate if it needed any sealing.
Nope... I took the 4-game parlay...
the easy bet was that he would get hurt.
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After watching RGIII when he was with the Redskins, and watching him with the Browns...
I give up. He just doesn't see stuff except one......at......a.........time.
Just doesn't have that ability to see the field quickly.
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I have no idea what Hue Jackson was thinking. RG III didn't even look like he could complete the easiest of passes for most of the day. There were many awful examples, but the worst for me was the throw to Devalve in the redzone. We desperately needed a first down, and Robert threw the ball 2000 miles per hour about 8 feet over the tight end. Devalve wasn't wide open, but he was OPEN. An accurate throw is a near sure first down, and a decent throw to the athletic Devalve gives us a shot. The announcers were like, "WTF was THAT?" The same reaction we all had.
Yeah, the weather isn't doing him any favors, and I'd give ANYTHING to have a dome game, or a game at San Diego. But no...this is US we're talking about here. Our two remaining road games are against the damn Bills and the Steelers. Let's just say it will be miserable playing conditions...yet again. And of course our home game against the Bolts will be just perfect conditions I'm sure. The weather is no excuse, as Dalton appeared to be doing well enough, but I'm sure it doesn't help a guy who hasn't played hardly at all in three years. What a cluster chicken.
And Hue ALREADY said that RG III is starting against the Bills?! REALLY?! Hue said that, "RG III proved that he belongs out there." REALLY?!!! Maybe Hue is just honing in on that first pick, LOL. The only thing RG III does is present the threat of running, and you could see how that affected the defense. The running game didn't come to life for no reason. But if he can't complete the smallest of passes, what's the point?
Maybe I should get off his back. Maybe I should try to understand that it's been a while for him...but my GOD. A ZERO QB RATING in the first half? If we just got ONE TOUCHDOWN in the first half, we'd have been in that damn game. UGH.
jiggins, MHO here's the possibilities why Hue wants to keep the RG III experiment going.
1) He's blind.
2) Really believes Griffin was just "rusty".
3) Doesn't want to admit signing Robert was a humongous mistake.
4) Loves the fact RG III can throw the ball out of the stadium, (unlike Kessler) but overlooks where it's coming down is a mystery.
5) Secretly is pining for that #1 overall pick, though that's probably unlikely.
If he sticks with Griff- it will be his albatross. Haslam may not interfere, but if our crack analytics guys come to the conclusion RG III is a lost cause, they'll have no hesitation sending him packing after the season.
I see the high ball to Devalve as just another evidence of grip issues which were in ample evidence all game with the exception of the TD drive.
It's occurred to me that grip strength could be just a piece of a more general, literal, arm-strength issue. How many weeks in a sling? How many more of reduced inactivity? When did strengthening rehab begin?
Seemed like when he did cut loose, then he was trying throws his mind remembered his arm being capable of... but the arm (hand) failed.
Then there's the whole other issue of the mind obviously processing about a beat and a half slow...
... except for that one drive.
Yup, throws in the dirt, or 10 feet over the guys head. Or you didn't notice the triple coverage?
The Rams may be worse than the Browns and the 49ers at this point. Really.
Well record wise- we can't catch the Rams, but their Front Office might just have passed the Browns in stupidity. Breaking news. After signing Jeff Fisher to a contract extension- they just fired him. When I saw that on NFL.com, my jaw almost hit the floor.
3) Doesn't want to admit signing Robert was a humongous mistake.Didn't cost any draft picks.....just a few dollars.....was worth a shot.
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Agreed orion. I see no reason to get incensed. TCPO laid out that case when we signed him. He either was awesome and we had our guy, or he wasn't and we took our guy at 1 overall.
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