Move Over Sashi .....
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Damn you need a hug... bad...
It's an article about our continued accumulation of high-value prospects. Their late-draft/UDFA roots, plus the fact that all these pick-ups were cut primarily because they got caught in their former teams' numbers game, testify to this.
As such the article is not early at all. Were it written two years from now should all pan out, then we'd rip on it for being a self-serving, 20/20 hindsight, POS.
Numbers game crunch? What that means Tour is the teams that cut them perceived their talent level as inferior to the guys the did keep. So essentially, we're dumpster diving in an attempt to find something edible. What needs to happen (and we'll know we've turned the corner) is when other teams start rummaging through our trash. Gee- we lost Scoobie-Doo.
The past is past, but we'd certainly not be winless if the Browns had a couple of guys on the roster they let walk- starting with TJ Ward.
Numbers game crunch? What that means Tour is the teams that cut them perceived their talent level as inferior to the guys the did keep. So essentially, we're dumpster diving in an attempt to find something edible. What needs to happen (and we'll know we've turned the corner) is when other teams start rummaging through our trash. Gee- we lost Scoobie-Doo.
The past is past, but we'd certainly not be winless if the Browns had a couple of guys on the roster they let walk- starting with TJ Ward.
Well...
- TJ is ancient history now...
- Not all dumpsters are created equal, e.g., Burger Chef vs. Bleu Provence...
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Youd almost swear Shashi wrote that article...
I think the article is a year or 2 early for this group.....
Damn you need a hug... bad...
It's an article about our continued accumulation of high-value prospects. Their late-draft/UDFA roots, plus the fact that all these pick-ups were cut primarily because they got caught in their former teams' numbers game, testify to this.
As such the article is not early at all. Were it written two years from now should all pan out, then we'd rip on it for being a self-serving, 20/20 hindsight, POS.
yes war, it is. we definitely mishandled him. we tried to make him play against the packers when he clearly had a fucked up foot. then we fined him when he wouldn't play.
the staff definitely isn't perfect, so enough of the "they can do no wrong" or "in sashi we trust shit".
but i'm optimistic about this draft from here. we can only get better moving forward.
- If releasing K'waun was a mistake, then last I saw he's still available to sign.
- Not sure how not trusting Sashi yet being optimistic about the upcoming draft go together.
- If releasing K'waun was a mistake, then last I saw he's still available to sign.
- Not sure how not trusting Sashi yet being optimistic about the upcoming draft go together.
Didn't say to "not trust him", just get sick of people who think he can't possibly make any mistakes and we should have 110% with the gameplan. The dude is human, and he can definitely make mistakes.
For example I can remember a buddy who I have that's a fan who agreed with every draft pick the browns made, even a mingo, and went about how our front office is genius'. He never questioned anything they were doing. My point was just it's good to be optimistic, but we can't have blind faith in every decision they make like some people do.
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- If releasing K'waun was a mistake, then last I saw he's still available to sign.
- Not sure how not trusting Sashi yet being optimistic about the upcoming draft go together.
Didn't say to "not trust him", just get sick of people who think he can't possibly make any mistakes and we should have 110% with the gameplan. The dude is human, and he can definitely make mistakes.
For example I can remember a buddy who I have that's a fan who agreed with every draft pick the browns made, even a mingo, and went about how our front office is genius'. He never questioned anything they were doing. My point was just it's good to be optimistic, but we can't have blind faith in every decision they make like some people do.
Didn't say to "not trust him", just get sick of people who think he can't possibly make any mistakes and we should have 110% with the gameplan. The dude is human, and he can definitely make mistakes.
Got it.. I apple-a-gize... I let myself get thrown off by the use of third person...
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it's the staff's fault K'Waun isn't on the team anymore?
Yes...it is...100%
fined, then suspended, then cut....for being injured.
Yes...it is...100%
fined, then suspended, then cut....for being injured.
Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.
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Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.
And replaced by guys just as good/better.
Zombo
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Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.
exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......
so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
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As much as I liked K'Wuan - he was injury prone. He didn't finish quite a few games he started/worked as our 3rd corner. It's probably a big reason he doesn't have a job today.
I remembered Gipson showing up with a crappy attitude last year because the Browns didn't give him his dream contract when he made the Pro Bowl despite playing only about half the season in 2014. Just out of curiosity, is he lighting it up for the Jacksonville franchise that did throw him the free agent $ he wanted?
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.
exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......
so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
Too much talent. He would have made our draft picks look worse than they areexactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......
so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
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Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.
exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......
so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......
so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
I believe you just won your case Mud! Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, who says you need to be Legally Blonde to win a case?
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
As much as I liked K'Wuan - he was injury prone. He didn't finish quite a few games he started/worked as our 3rd corner. It's probably a big reason he doesn't have a job today.
I remembered Gipson showing up with a crappy attitude last year because the Browns didn't give him his dream contract when he made the Pro Bowl despite playing only about half the season in 2014. Just out of curiosity, is he lighting it up for the Jacksonville franchise that did throw him the free agent $ he wanted?
As much as I liked K'Wuan - he was injury prone. He didn't finish quite a few games he started/worked as our 3rd corner. It's probably a big reason he doesn't have a job today.
I remembered Gipson showing up with a crappy attitude last year because the Browns didn't give him his dream contract when he made the Pro Bowl despite playing only about half the season in 2014. Just out of curiosity, is he lighting it up for the Jacksonville franchise that did throw him the free agent $ he wanted?
He needs surgery before he can play....bone spurs...."word" is that 20 teams were prepared to tap him, when Chicago claimed him...
He is in the midst of a grievance with the Browns and, my guess is that he will have the surgery, rehab and then play for someone again....
My beef isnt so much that he's gone....it's that he was mishandled and the staff missed the boat on a very young....affordable....player......which is what we are supposedly trying to collect and build a team with......it's not like we are teeming with young, effective DB's....
Gipson?......not one that I was really sad to see go....and probably not "lighting it up".....but he has started and played every game and is certainly playing better than our FS's......(a position we basically suck at and perhaps the weakest position on a terrible D)
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exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......
so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
I believe you just won your case Mud! Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, who says you need to be Legally Blonde to win a case?
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Williams was a good player but had issues staying on the field with concussions before the bone spurs thing even came up. We've moved on and Jamar Taylor, when not being forced to play outside because Grandpa Williams can't, is at least on a level with him.
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Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.
And replaced by guys just as good/better.
Zombo
Zombo said:
And replaced by guys just as good/better.
Zombo
I don't agree with that.
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Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.
exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......
so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......
so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.
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Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.
exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......
so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
you think thats the norm?....got it....
He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.
As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....
Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?
Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////
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you think thats the norm?....got it....
He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.
As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....
Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?
Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////
As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....
Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?
Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////
Williams sucks, get over it
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As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....
Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?
Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////
Williams sucks, get over it
Williams sucks, get over it
he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...
you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....
figure it out...
you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....
So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....
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Williams sucks, get over it
he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...
you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....
figure it out...
you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....
So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....
he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...
you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....
figure it out...
you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....
So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....
I'll answer.... It's because they're assholes. That's pretty much it.
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Williams sucks, get over it
he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...
you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....
figure it out...
you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....
So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....
he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...
you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....
figure it out...
you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....
So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....
I think we're all interested to hear your working theories. "They're a bunch of idiots" doesn't qualify as a good one.
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