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Bowl Game Skippin'... What Say Ye?

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  • gftChris gftChrisG
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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    Skipping team games is a no-no for me. Skipping the senior bowl, shrine games etc I can live with.

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      Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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      It's selfish.

      These guys get a scholarship to play and represent their school. Play in the Bowl game, the school counted on you.

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        flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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        With players that like to play the bug and windshield game or riding crotch rockets off road.. fuck those selfish arrogant bastards. I hope they trip on their porch steps, break their phenorkle bone and ruin both their NFL and mating career.Like Chris sez, an all star type game is one thing but to turn their back on their teammates and school is unacceptable. Would you want this guy protecting your six? Or in a foxhole with you? That kind of team spirit screams bust anyway.

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          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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          These kids can end up costing themselves millions just by turning an ankle in the final game. So im cool with it

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            jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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            Jaylon Smith really scared a lot of people last year. The guy went from a lock top 10 pick (and probably top 5) to 2nd rounder. We're talking about MILLIONS of dollars of guaranteed money he may never see again. Personally, I tend to lean on the "play ball" side. But honestly, I can't say for certain that I wouldn't go this route knowing millions of dollars could be on the line because of one bad play. You guys can say you wouldn't do it, but I'd love to see you stick to that if you were in this position.

            I am interested to see how this might play out long-term though. If this becomes a more normal thing, the NCAA and the powers that be might try to enact policies to counter it. From a marketing perspective, whatever bowl Stanford is in took a serious hit because the past player is sitting out.

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              flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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              Seems like a guy could make more than he may lose. Play good. Move up. More money.

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                T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                Garrett has opted to play for his teammates. He is delaying any announcement as to intentions to enter the draft early or not until after the game.

                Maybe he's waiting to see if the Browns get #1 overall first. 😉

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                  Garrett has opted to play for his teammates. He is delaying any announcement as to intentions to enter the draft early or not until after the game.

                  Maybe he's waiting to see if the Browns get #1 overall first. 😉

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  @texasag1969 said:

                  Maybe he's waiting to see if the Browns get #1 overall first. 😉

                  Wuts sad is there might be truth to that. He may not want to go to a team that will not use him right and end up nerfing his career

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                    D Dste Ace wrote on last edited by
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                    I remember when friends and family of Jadeveon Clowney were advising him to skip his

                    final college season. I thought it was a rather shitty attitude, that is until I saw North Carolina

                    O-linemen blatantly and unapologetically trying to take out his knees.

                    The NCAA and colleges are making ungodly $$$$ and only care about the players as far

                    as their ability to keep the money train rolling. So I have no problem with a player looking out

                    for Number 1.

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      Coaches leave before bowl games all the time is there a big uproar over that?

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                        These kids can end up costing themselves millions just by turning an ankle in the final game. So im cool with it

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                        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        These kids can end up costing themselves millions just by turning an ankle in the final game. So im cool with it

                        Players can and do get insurance policies against injury or dropping in the draft due to injury for tax free money in the millions. It can be complicated but is available.... SEE ARTICLE IN ESPN......

                        http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17328541/college-football-insurance-policies-big-complicated-business

                        Sources revealed Wednesday that Clemson's Deshaun Watson has taken out two insurance policies against a career-ending injury: a $5 million total disability policy and a $5 million loss of value policy.

                        The reality is, players rarely end up receiving a payout, even after they've sustained an injury. And when they do get paid, it's still unclear whether the IRS has dibs on a cut of the money.

                        Here's a primer on how these policies work:

                        What is a total disability policy?

                        It protects a player should he become unable to play football again because of an injury. This covers an injury on or off the field, usually from the time a player signs the policy until the following football season. The only reason something wouldn't be covered is if there's a pre-existing injury; the insurer might specify in the policy that the player would not be covered if the same injury occurs again.

                        A player can attempt to come back from an injury and still collect, but in general, policies won't pay out if he's able to play in more than four games following the injury.

                        A player can't just decide that he can't play. A doctor, sometimes one from the player's side and one from the insurer's side, must agree that is the case.

                        What is a loss of value policy?

                        It is an attachment to the disability policy. It projects where a player is supposed to go in the draft and then provides for a payment up to a specific amount, should the player fall in the draft order because of an injury.

                        A player can get paid a small amount if he doesn't slip far, or the whole amount, as Ifo Ekpre-Olomu received when he was projected to be a first-round pick and an injury caused him to slip to the seventh round. Someone who didn't collect in this year's draft was Myles Jack, who fell to the 36th overall pick, but only would have started to collect money at Pick 45.

                        The loss of value must be associated with an injury. There's no coverage for falling in the draft due to other issues.....CONTINUED IN ARTICLE......

                        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                          Now insurance policy or not it still might be an issue for top 5 or 10 draft picks for lower round picks playing probably will help their draft status.

                          Oh yeah D-1A football is big business for conferences (who get HUGE bowl payouts), schools, coaches (in their contracts and future earnings), some players....and insurance companies. 😉

                          Policies are generally $10,000 per million.

                          Why do schools pay?

                          This is now a good way for a school to keep a player who might be scared to return. In other words, the school is saying, if you hurt yourself, we've got your back. GO TEAM!!

                          GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            And Fournette has now said he wil not play in LSU's bowl game...

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                              Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                              Circumstances. A first round RB skipping a meaningless bowl game, I'm fine with. Were it any even slightly larger Bowl, I'd be concerned. But the West Las Vegas Combination KFC Taco Bell Bowl means nothing.

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                                You play! The college took you in and gave you a chance to shine with free tuition and whatever else. So you pay what you're supposed to. If you're going to get hurt playing football it can happen at anytime especially during the preseason.

                                These players know they're getting drafted high and I don't see any players that don't stand a chance in the nfl bowing out of a bowl game. I'm so happy the rules of rookie players' salaries have disapated.

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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  I have no problem with it. The players should be paid as it is. They've given the school much more than it has given them. Let them protecting their money. Plus, coaches do this shit all of the time and I one cares.

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                                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                    As a fan, no issue I guess. If I was a team mate, I'd have a couple parting words.

                                    Then again I'm not a fan of coaches leaving before bowl games either.

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      to me, a player who deserts his teammates isn't much of a teammate, probably all about himself.

                                      It depends on circumstances, but if I had to choose between three equal players ...

                                      the two who DID play that bowl game are the kind of kids who love the game,

                                      and are about the team winning. It dpends on why, etc, but it reeks of "prima donna wanta money"

                                      Just my opinion.

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                                        T Taco918 wrote on last edited by
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                                        I have no issue with the two major players (Fournette and McCaffrey) not playing. Both of their teams under-performed this year. Both have enough tape for scouts. They honestly have nothing to gain by playing in a meaningless bowl game.

                                        Now if a prospect who was lacking tape, playing for a major bowl and/or championship decided not to play, then I'd consider having an issue.

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                                          B BrownPile wrote on last edited by
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                                          Overall, it tells you something about the player's character.

                                          What does that do to his draft position if he won't play for fear of getting hurt and costing him money?

                                          Do I want that guy on my 'team' if he's showing he's not a team player?

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