Pryor injured
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So you'd rather win 3 games this year than 9 or 10 in a couple years. Got it.
And you would rather have players, coaches and administrators who tank games and mail it in... Yeah. SURE way to build that team you want.
How many teams has THAT worked for?
Stoke your team full of people that don't give a rat's behind, except for their own payday.
That works EVERY time, doesn't it?
Yeah. Got it.
You must be a really big Jags fan then.
And you would rather have players, coaches and administrators who tank games and mail it in... Yeah. SURE way to build that team you want.
How many teams has THAT worked for?
Stoke your team full of people that don't give a rat's behind, except for their own payday.
That works EVERY time, doesn't it?
Yeah. Got it.
You must be a really big Jags fan then.
It's worked for many times. I don't like the Jags. Raiders are pretty cool though.
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the CBA/Players Union is ruining a great sport. Putting a number on padded practices is ruining good OL play & any live contact, some call tackling..Add "what is a catch" wait "we have a review, but maybe not." the league worries about rating being down.....BS
Gotta throw Goddell in the mix. He's just a guilty as the CBA for fitting the gamethe CBA/Players Union is ruining a great sport. Putting a number on padded practices is ruining good OL play & any live contact, some call tackling..Add "what is a catch" wait "we have a review, but maybe not." the league worries about rating being down.....BS
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Another one bitching about Pryor - this time, Brian Hartline.
"If I'm building a team, what is [Pryor]?" Hartline asked during an appearance on Columbus radio station 105.7 The Zone (via Ohio.com). "Is he my No. 1? God, I hope not because let's put it this way: For me, I want a guy day in and day out I know what I'm getting. You don't know what you're going to get. You don't know who's going to show up. You don't know if he's going to get in trouble. You don't know if he's going to smart off. I need stability. That's so much more important to me.
"I need a guy that runs routes. I need stability. I need constant production. Is he a No. 2? OK, yeah. I mean maybe. He kind of disappeared the last couple weeks. So I'm very apprehensive as a Cleveland Browns guy to give out a contract. Listen, you had one year. You're a flash in the pan. You're trying to tell me with a guy that had suspect personality characteristics, I'm going to go ahead and hand you a bunch of money but you're going to work harder? Uh, I think I'm going to bet against that if I'm a betting man."
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Another one bitching about Pryor - this time, Brian Hartline.
"If I'm building a team, what is [Pryor]?" Hartline asked during an appearance on Columbus radio station 105.7 The Zone (via Ohio.com). "Is he my No. 1? God, I hope not because let's put it this way: For me, I want a guy day in and day out I know what I'm getting. You don't know what you're going to get. You don't know who's going to show up. You don't know if he's going to get in trouble. You don't know if he's going to smart off. I need stability. That's so much more important to me.
"I need a guy that runs routes. I need stability. I need constant production. Is he a No. 2? OK, yeah. I mean maybe. He kind of disappeared the last couple weeks. So I'm very apprehensive as a Cleveland Browns guy to give out a contract. Listen, you had one year. You're a flash in the pan. You're trying to tell me with a guy that had suspect personality characteristics, I'm going to go ahead and hand you a bunch of money but you're going to work harder? Uh, I think I'm going to bet against that if I'm a betting man."
I heard that interview as well as many opinions after. I think TP can be a good one but will he be a Jones or Brown or Green? Plus he can't do it alone. Cover Pryor and you pretty much got the pass covered. I'm thinking the FO screws him, but I'm cynical.Another one bitching about Pryor - this time, Brian Hartline.
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I'm beginning to think there are too many people bitching about Pryor for it to be a case of sour grapes or whatever. Plus, he does disappear for games at a time. I'd keep him, but he doesn't deserve Green/Jones/Brown money.
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Seems like an informed assessment. Browns will probably overpay him.
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So whats everyones cutoff for Pryor's contract?
To put it in perspective, Marvin Jones is getting paid 5 years, $40 million + 8mill signing bonus. Ideally, he signs for Marvin Jones money.
However, given our current state to keep talent and add building blocks (i hope), we're probably going to be overpaying for Pryor, somewhere north of 50-55 million. And truthfully, the guy would be a fantastic #2, but I don't think he's worth 50-55 mill.
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So whats everyones cutoff for Pryor's contract?
To put it in perspective, Marvin Jones is getting paid 5 years, $40 million + 8mill signing bonus. Ideally, he signs for Marvin Jones money.
However, given our current state to keep talent and add building blocks (i hope), we're probably going to be overpaying for Pryor, somewhere north of 50-55 million. And truthfully, the guy would be a fantastic #2, but I don't think he's worth 50-55 mill.
So whats everyones cutoff for Pryor's contract?
To put it in perspective, Marvin Jones is getting paid 5 years, $40 million + 8mill signing bonus. Ideally, he signs for Marvin Jones money.
However, given our current state to keep talent and add building blocks (i hope), we're probably going to be overpaying for Pryor, somewhere north of 50-55 million. And truthfully, the guy would be a fantastic #2, but I don't think he's worth 50-55 mill.
If I were calling the shots I'd wave goodbye. I think he is living in the Jordan Cameron & Gary Barnidge zone, a solid player on a horrendous team. In the NBA he'd be called a looter in a riot. If Coleman is a top 15 player and you have glaring weaknesses on both sides of the ball I'm not sure overpaying a #2 WR is wise.
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I think he has character issues. giving him that fat of a contract is too risky. I'd rather franchise his ass if we can sign collins.
when pryor was at OSU, so was my best friend and a couple of times pryor went to his frat parties and made a total asshole of himself. Hopefully he's grown up and changed since then, but back then he was incredibly self-centered. He needs to prove his worth to us because a couple good games aren't good enough. Do you think the patriots would give him 50 million?
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I think he has character issues. giving him that fat of a contract is too risky. I'd rather franchise his ass if we can sign collins.
when pryor was at OSU, so was my best friend and a couple of times pryor went to his frat parties and made a total asshole of himself. Hopefully he's grown up and changed since then, but back then he was incredibly self-centered. He needs to prove his worth to us because a couple good games aren't good enough. Do you think the patriots would give him 50 million?
I think he has character issues. giving him that fat of a contract is too risky. I'd rather franchise his ass if we can sign collins.
when pryor was at OSU, so was my best friend and a couple of times pryor went to his frat parties and made a total asshole of himself. Hopefully he's grown up and changed since then, but back then he was incredibly self-centered. He needs to prove his worth to us because a couple good games aren't good enough. Do you think the patriots would give him 50 million?
That's what scares me. The Giants drafted Sterling Shepard in the 2nd round and to this point he is vastly outplaying Corey Coleman. The overarching theme of the Browns woes is terrible talent evaluation from draft, to free agents and player retention.
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I wouldn't sign him for more than 2 years. Let's see how he performs on a (hopefully) better squad next season.
He did well the first 4-5 games when the offense was healthy. Not much production since. He had decent chemistry with Kessler.
I'm not crazy about his attitude, but we need playmakers.
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Heartline's an expert I guess.
He expects Pryor to put up big numbers every game. But if you're a D-coordinator preparing for us, who do you try to double cover? Coleman? Barnidge? Ricardo Louis? Nah, you gameplan to take Pryor out of the game.
Is Pryor kind of an ahole? Yeah, he's a 15 yard penalty waiting to happen.....but he's about the best threat we've got. It'd be nice to keep him.
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give any WR a radio mik & they all were #1 Wr's.
But, your own teammate. STFU Hartline..No Gordo grabbing some attention away from Pryor was not in the plan. But, I would get rid of that #11 Jersey & go with #88. That's 4 0's as targets a QB might hit..BullsEye!! (8 0's for those drinking at home) -
Heartline's an expert I guess.
He expects Pryor to put up big numbers every game. But if you're a D-coordinator preparing for us, who do you try to double cover? Coleman? Barnidge? Ricardo Louis? Nah, you gameplan to take Pryor out of the game.
Is Pryor kind of an ahole? Yeah, he's a 15 yard penalty waiting to happen.....but he's about the best threat we've got. It'd be nice to keep him.
Heartline's an expert I guess.
He expects Pryor to put up big numbers every game. But if you're a D-coordinator preparing for us, who do you try to double cover? Coleman? Barnidge? Ricardo Louis? Nah, you gameplan to take Pryor out of the game.
Is Pryor kind of an ahole? Yeah, he's a 15 yard penalty waiting to happen.....but he's about the best threat we've got. It'd be nice to keep him.
Agree with this. Hey, I hear Dez Bryant and Odell Beckham are super stable guys, Brian.
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I'm beginning to think there are too many people bitching about Pryor for it to be a case of sour grapes or whatever. Plus, he does disappear for games at a time. I'd keep him, but he doesn't deserve Green/Jones/Brown money.
I'm beginning to think there are too many people bitching about Pryor for it to be a case of sour grapes or whatever. Plus, he does disappear for games at a time. I'd keep him, but he doesn't deserve Green/Jones/Brown money.
Until this season, I always had a dislike of Pryor from his OSU days......he was always just kind of a stuck up prick....
Then....after watching him this season, I thought he had matured and grown and I got kinda excited.....
Then.....the cracks in his personality started to show again.....and now even more.....
So....me thinks there's enough there to suspect he's still a bad seed and not a good "locker room guy"
Id still consider signing him.....but not for #1 money.....and certainly not Green/Jones/Brown money.....(not even close)
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I think we're of a mind on this one Mud. I'd keep him, after all he's only had one season as a WR and it's been pretty solid. Hopefully he can show the same progress this offseason he showed last and he'd be a top player.
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I think he has character issues. giving him that fat of a contract is too risky. I'd rather franchise his ass if we can sign collins.
when pryor was at OSU, so was my best friend and a couple of times pryor went to his frat parties and made a total asshole of himself. Hopefully he's grown up and changed since then, but back then he was incredibly self-centered. He needs to prove his worth to us because a couple good games aren't good enough. Do you think the patriots would give him 50 million?
That's what scares me. The Giants drafted Sterling Shepard in the 2nd round and to this point he is vastly outplaying Corey Coleman. The overarching theme of the Browns woes is terrible talent evaluation from draft, to free agents and player retention.
There's no way he's going to get more than something in the range of $25-26 million in the open market. There's too many variables there for basically one good, not great season. I think he'd be happy as a clam to sign here on say a 3 year, $24 million contract with 10-12 million guaranteed.No way on God's green earth he will get the $50 million you guys are thinking.
Is Pryor really this much of a dick? I mean idc about that too much if he continues to preform but I guess I never realized people don't like the guy the level he's getting into lately.
That's what scares me. The Giants drafted Sterling Shepard in the 2nd round and to this point he is vastly outplaying Corey Coleman. The overarching theme of the Browns woes is terrible talent evaluation from draft, to free agents and player retention.
Shepard is also playing alongside arguably the best WR in football and getting the ball thrown by a HOF QB. Those are FUNDAMENTALLY different scenarios, come on man don't be that dumb.
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It's too bad Josh Gordon couldn't put it all together...letting Pryor walk would be so much easier.
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