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WEEK 18 NCAA Football, Bowl games through 12/31 and BIG TEN!

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  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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    I hope Clemson goes on to defeat Alabama.

  • I hope Clemson goes on to defeat Alabama.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I hope Clemson goes on to defeat Alabama.

    Everyone does

  • I hope Clemson goes on to defeat Alabama.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I hope Clemson goes on to defeat Alabama.

    I think Alabama will bury them BUT I hope Clemson wins and we move on.

    Meanwhile GO YSU on 1/7/2017 bring home a National Championship!

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR all you football fanatics! Here's to a good 2017.

  • @wargograw said:

    Southern brothers against a bunch of white boys. The experience delta between the two teams is the only thing that made this a tough call.

    I have no idea what you're trying to say

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I have no idea what you're trying to say

    FSU had a lot more talent. The only reason it was tough to predict this game is because FSU is young and m is old, and experience negates an opponent's talent.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    I have no idea what you're trying to say

    FSU had a lot more talent. The only reason it was tough to predict this game is because FSU is young and m is old, and experience negates an opponent's talent.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    FSU had a lot more talent. The only reason it was tough to predict this game is because FSU is young and m is old, and experience negates an opponent's talent.

    I wouldn't say they had a lot more, but having our most talented, all-american player hurt didn't help. But considering it is only year 2 of Harbaugh, and he is still bringing in his guys (good chance we have back to back top 5 classes), you could probably say they're more talented top to bottom.

    And yes, we had a lot of seniors starting, but many of them were basically "starting by default". Again, we were 5-7 and missed a bowl two years ago. It is only year two of Harbaugh. He's still building his team with his guys. The starters out there may have been experienced, but its not the same type of Sr that would be on a year 5 Meyer team.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #26

    I think you just contradicted yourself. But nevertheless, FSU has more talent. That's all I was saying. Probably the most raw talent in the country outside of Tuscaloosa.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    I have no idea what you're trying to say

    FSU had a lot more talent. The only reason it was tough to predict this game is because FSU is young and m is old, and experience negates an opponent's talent.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    FSU had a lot more talent. The only reason it was tough to predict this game is because FSU is young and m is old, and experience negates an opponent's talent.

    At 33-32 either team coulda won that game, even if m was the 7 point favorite.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    I imagine that line would have changed if they knew Peppers was hurt

  • I imagine that line would have changed if they knew Peppers was hurt

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    @mld-woody said:

    I imagine that line would have changed if they knew Peppers was hurt

    Oh yes because the announcement came so late every casino book I saw was locked in at MICH -7 so you couldn't get in at less and it would have dropped. And -7 was a great line if you were an FSU fan.

    (GO to vegasinsider.com, ncaa fb, scores and you can see the tick by tick changes by each casino....mountains of numbers on gambling! )

  • @wargograw said:

    FSU had a lot more talent. The only reason it was tough to predict this game is because FSU is young and m is old, and experience negates an opponent's talent.

    At 33-32 either team coulda won that game, even if m was the 7 point favorite.

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    At 33-32 either team coulda won that game, even if m was the 7 point favorite.

    Wasn't as close as the score indicated. But as I said, old team versus young one.

  • @mjp28 said:

    At 33-32 either team coulda won that game, even if m was the 7 point favorite.

    Wasn't as close as the score indicated. But as I said, old team versus young one.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    Wasn't as close as the score indicated. But as I said, old team versus young one.

    And like I said, taking that high level of a view without understand the details of the situation does you no good...

  • @mjp28 said:

    At 33-32 either team coulda won that game, even if m was the 7 point favorite.

    Wasn't as close as the score indicated. But as I said, old team versus young one.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    Wasn't as close as the score indicated. But as I said, old team versus young one.

    That happens more than you think now just look at the Buckeyes this year, and doesn't Alabama have that in their starting QB.."Redshirt freshman Blake Barnett, who opened the season as Alabama's starting quarterback but was pulled after just two series in the Crimson Tide's opener in favor of freshman Jalen Hurts"... he then transferred out.

    Kids are more ready than ever to play now than ever getting to the NCAA level and again when going pro. Look at Dallas freshmen QB and RB possible NFL MVPs.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    A 4th year 3 star is usually as good as a true fish 5 star.