Draft Talk
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As much as SEC teams doubled teamed and ran away from Garrett all year long, Hall should have had a better year on the other side of the D. But he didn't. He is late round at best.
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That is all well and good.....but.....what about the defense, which is still the weakest part of this team.
and THAT is why we dont go QB early......plain and simple,,,,
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Just saying, the Defense looked good yesterday. We're looking at a lot of impact players entering their second year, hopefully they make the jump. They will be in the second year of their system and with a little continuity they could have an impact.
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If we get the QB #1 and lose out on Garrett, we can still get Hall a little later.
But, if we're going to move forward we need a QB that can stabilize the position. McCown is getting old, Griffin and Kessler are not the answer... Trubisky looks like he could be the real deal. The kid is a heck of a QB. His highlight reels show all tools that you're looking for in a QB. He's tall, he has an accurate rocket arm and can make plays with his feet.
Just watch this bowl game highlight. Yeah, they end up losing the game but he gave them a chance to win. I went back and watched all of games in which they lost this year. He wasn't the reason when they lost, and if he did have a mistake he battled back and gave them a chance to pull out the win.
Just saying, the Defense looked good yesterday. We're looking at a lot of impact players entering their second year, hopefully they make the jump. They will be in the second year of their system and with a little continuity they could have an impact.
Watch this...
If we get the QB #1 and lose out on Garrett, we can still get Hall a little later.
But, if we're going to move forward we need a QB that can stabilize the position. McCown is getting old, Griffin and Kessler are not the answer... Trubisky looks like he could be the real deal. The kid is a heck of a QB. His highlight reels show all tools that you're looking for in a QB. He's tall, he has an accurate rocket arm and can make plays with his feet.
Just watch this bowl game highlight. Yeah, they end up losing the game but he gave them a chance to win. I went back and watched all of games in which they lost this year. He wasn't the reason when they lost, and if he did have a mistake he battled back and gave them a chance to pull out the win.
Looked like he had Cam Erving playing center for him on the 2 pointer. Hopefully...to my mind, we take Trub and an OC to go with him: Elflein/Pocic.
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Mitch Trubisky throws such an amazing deep ball! I love the angle and the velocity on his throws... almost looks like that ball is going to go on forever!
Then you find a way to take this monster to take over for Crowell and we have an allstar offense.
If we want to change our fortunes, let's get these guys and people will be forced to fear playing the Browns. I believe in our Defense... our Offense needs and identity, this would accomplish that.
Mitch Trubisky throws such an amazing deep ball! I love the angle and the velocity on his throws... almost looks like that ball is going to go on forever!
Then you find a way to take this monster to take over for Crowell and we have an allstar offense.
If we want to change our fortunes, let's get these guys and people will be forced to fear playing the Browns. I believe in our Defense... our Offense needs and identity, this would accomplish that.
I don't think that Fournette has any better of a future prospect in this league than Crowell does. Not at all.
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If Crowell was as good as Fournette... Duke Johnson would never see the field.
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Mitch Trubisky throws such an amazing deep ball! I love the angle and the velocity on his throws... almost looks like that ball is going to go on forever!
Then you find a way to take this monster to take over for Crowell and we have an allstar offense.
If we want to change our fortunes, let's get these guys and people will be forced to fear playing the Browns. I believe in our Defense... our Offense needs and identity, this would accomplish that.
I don't think that Fournette has any better of a future prospect in this league than Crowell does. Not at all.
I don't think that Fournette has any better of a future prospect in this league than Crowell does. Not at all.
I agree Gips. Crow was Freshman of the year in the SEC at UGA and he's had some really good games behind our offensive line this year. He'll get even better any time we can throw the forward pass with any degree of consistency as yesterday depicted.
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Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help.
Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft.....
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75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes
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Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help.
Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft.....
Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help.
Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft.....
Good idea.
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75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes
75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes
Indeed, but what I see is he doesn't get caught from behind. Besides, it's the other 25% of the plays when things do break down and he does it on his own, that is where I see the need in Cleveland.
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Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help.
Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft.....
Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why?
Because they think by drafting him we'll become the Cowboys over night. Nevermind having quality skill players, the best Oline in the NFL, a capable QB, and stable front office/coaching staff.
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If Crowell was as good as Fournette... Duke Johnson would never see the field.
You have just fallen in love again PoG.
Look, my advocacy for Trubisky is the same as why I wanted Bosa last year: a top player filling a desperate team need.
Purely logical.
I see Fournette as no better than Dalvin Cook and some others.
And this may be the LAST position of need on this team. So, so, so much more is needed on this team before we go looking for a running back.
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Like I said in the other thread. The top player in a weak draft class.
You're addressing the position for the sake of it at that point.
Would you take Aaron Donald, or Blake Bortles??
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Like I said in the other thread. The top player in a weak draft class.
You're addressing the position for the sake of it at that point.
Would you take Aaron Donald, or Blake Bortles??
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75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes
75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes
Trent Richardson part 2.
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Fournette's injury issues eliminate him from early 1st consideration here...
If we took the players that fall at #1, #14/15 and #33 I'd be semi-happy...
- 1. Allen (DE/DT) - BAMA
- 12. Thomas (DE)
- 33. Kizer (QB)
Thomas is a good player, but I can't see dounbling down at DE this high.
So that #12 pick may be a tad problematic, but someone will fall to us should Trubs jump up... please be Foster... please be Foster...
If no one does fall, then a modest trade down can still land us a quality CB or maybe OLB Tim Williams.
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Fournette's injury issues eliminate him from early 1st consideration here...
If we took the players that fall at #1, #14/15 and #33 I'd be semi-happy...
- 1. Allen (DE/DT) - BAMA
- 12. Thomas (DE)
- 33. Kizer (QB)
Thomas is a good player, but I can't see dounbling down at DE this high.
So that #12 pick may be a tad problematic, but someone will fall to us should Trubs jump up... please be Foster... please be Foster...
If no one does fall, then a modest trade down can still land us a quality CB or maybe OLB Tim Williams.
Fournette's injury issues eliminate him from early 1st consideration here...
If we took the players that fall at #1, #14/15 and #33 I'd be semi-happy...
- 1. Allen (DE/DT) - BAMA
- 12. Thomas (DE)
- 33. Kizer (QB)
Thomas is a good player, but I can't see dounbling down at DE this high.
So that #12 pick may be a tad problematic, but someone will fall to us should Trubs jump up... please be Foster... please be Foster...
If no one does fall, then a modest trade down can still land us a quality CB or maybe OLB Tim Williams.
I have a feeling Malik Hooker will end up showing around that #12 spot, which would be lovely.
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Yeah, no kidding about Hooker. He'd fill a huge need, and I heard someone say he's the best pure free safety prospect since Ed Reid. The problem with picking Hooker is...who do we get to be our damn QB? Can we really pass on Garrett? Do we really want another second or third round rookie QB prospect? Ugh....
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