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Cal, where are you going to go cry about liberals once this place closes?

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    @westside-steve said:

    Actually I'm a moderator and haven't heard a thing.

    WSS

    Activity in regards to small merchandise sales that use to help fund this place dried up years ago. I mean, I don't even believe a Browns stocking cap was purchased in several years. That left this place showing red for awhile. We waited just as you all did, for things to turn around.

    This season, we went out and invested in having (60) I HATE THE STEELER shirts made, in hopes to off-set the costs with their sales. I guess we under-estimated that 90% of the folks who now use this forum have no clue where that iconic shirt idea came from (ED, the longtime member of this group/forum, tailgate cooking shirt - snow, rain or sunshine). So, now we only added to the expenses.

    I'm not hurting for money, in fact, I'm as financially comfortable as at any time in my 49.5 years on earth. That is not the point. With no interest in merchandise, we weighed that against not so much interest in this forum and entertained the idea of shutting things down.

    Guys like Hoorta took shots at my frequent Vegas trips and called for me to un-facebook friend him ... some greeting for the 13 years I did fund this place, and the 20 years we've rubbed elbows on a Browns internet Message Board. He then followed that post with a link to BarkingTard (good grief). CalFox called out the forums mechanics, another stellar Thank-you for long time service. Others cracked about how they could easily donate money .... yeah, sure (temp fix).

    The post/thought was removed. I don't think there is a way to bring up the financials of this place without taking a beating and looking like a beggar, so we will just move-on business as usual, privately. I'm sure the thought has already gotten the ball rolling for others to create a new place and recruiting is already taking place behind-the-scenes, been-there & weathered-that.

    Your a longtimer Bear, this place was built for you, me, and a dwindling group of others (RIP to some). I've stuck it out to create a home for others like the group we assembled from/into from the 1990/s. If the interest is still there, we will continue to provide, but I don't think that it was too much to ask for a sound-check at this horrible time in franchise history.

    We're going to make some changes, but the forum will remain. Let the snide remarks continue! Cheers!

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    @admin-0 said:

    Activity in regards to small merchandise sales that use to help fund this place dried up years ago. I mean, I don't even believe a Browns stocking cap was purchased in several years. That left this place showing red for awhile. We waited just as you all did, for things to turn around.

    This season, we went out and invested in having (60) I HATE THE STEELER shirts made, in hopes to off-set the costs with their sales. I guess we under-estimated that 90% of the folks who now use this forum have no clue where that iconic shirt idea came from (ED, the longtime member of this group/forum, tailgate cooking shirt - snow, rain or sunshine). So, now we only added to the expenses.

    I'm not hurting for money, in fact, I'm as financially comfortable as at any time in my 49.5 years on earth. That is not the point. With no interest in merchandise, we weighed that against not so much interest in this forum and entertained the idea of shutting things down.

    Guys like Hoorta took shots at my frequent Vegas trips and called for me to un-facebook friend him ... some greeting for the 13 years I did fund this place, and the 20 years we've rubbed elbows on a Browns internet Message Board. He then followed that post with a link to BarkingTard (good grief). CalFox called out the forums mechanics, another stellar Thank-you for long time service. Others cracked about how they could easily donate money .... yeah, sure (temp fix).

    The post/thought was removed. I don't think there is a way to bring up the financials of this place without taking a beating and looking like a beggar, so we will just move-on business as usual, privately. I'm sure the thought has already gotten the ball rolling for others to create a new place and recruiting is already taking place behind-the-scenes, been-there & weathered-that.

    Your a longtimer Bear, this place was built for you, me, and a dwindling group of others (RIP to some). I've stuck it out to create a home for others like the group we assembled from/into from the 1990/s. If the interest is still there, we will continue to provide, but I don't think that it was too much to ask for a sound-check at this horrible time in franchise history.

    We're going to make some changes, but the forum will remain. Let the snide remarks continue! Cheers!

    I'm with you Stan, as I was against mz the pussy, Inspecta (RIP) and the others. Fuck em all.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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      @admin-0 said:

      Activity in regards to small merchandise sales that use to help fund this place dried up years ago. I mean, I don't even believe a Browns stocking cap was purchased in several years. That left this place showing red for awhile. We waited just as you all did, for things to turn around.

      This season, we went out and invested in having (60) I HATE THE STEELER shirts made, in hopes to off-set the costs with their sales. I guess we under-estimated that 90% of the folks who now use this forum have no clue where that iconic shirt idea came from (ED, the longtime member of this group/forum, tailgate cooking shirt - snow, rain or sunshine). So, now we only added to the expenses.

      I'm not hurting for money, in fact, I'm as financially comfortable as at any time in my 49.5 years on earth. That is not the point. With no interest in merchandise, we weighed that against not so much interest in this forum and entertained the idea of shutting things down.

      Guys like Hoorta took shots at my frequent Vegas trips and called for me to un-facebook friend him ... some greeting for the 13 years I did fund this place, and the 20 years we've rubbed elbows on a Browns internet Message Board. He then followed that post with a link to BarkingTard (good grief). CalFox called out the forums mechanics, another stellar Thank-you for long time service. Others cracked about how they could easily donate money .... yeah, sure (temp fix).

      The post/thought was removed. I don't think there is a way to bring up the financials of this place without taking a beating and looking like a beggar, so we will just move-on business as usual, privately. I'm sure the thought has already gotten the ball rolling for others to create a new place and recruiting is already taking place behind-the-scenes, been-there & weathered-that.

      Your a longtimer Bear, this place was built for you, me, and a dwindling group of others (RIP to some). I've stuck it out to create a home for others like the group we assembled from/into from the 1990/s. If the interest is still there, we will continue to provide, but I don't think that it was too much to ask for a sound-check at this horrible time in franchise history.

      We're going to make some changes, but the forum will remain. Let the snide remarks continue! Cheers!

      I'm with you Stan, as I was against mz the pussy, Inspecta (RIP) and the others. Fuck em all.

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      @diehardbrownsfan said:

      I'm with you Stan, as I was against mz the pussy, Inspecta (RIP) and the others. Fuck em all.

      Love ya Brother! ... Let's see this thing through.

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        Never even checked out Brady Quinn Homo Fan club never will. I wish Stan would still post here, I still remember reading Zombo's post back in the day that read "Skippy went and offed himself" And IMO this p[lace was never the same. I for 1 am some of the "goofs" are gone I will not even bother saying any of their names But I can't understand people crying to Stan or any of the mods over what somebody said. BUT THE BROWNS BOARD WILL NEVER DIE I hope

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        ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by ATENEARS
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        @medicineman said:

        Never even checked out Brady Quinn Homo Fan club never will. I wish Stan would still post here, I still remember reading Zombo's post back in the day that read "Skippy went and offed himself" And IMO this p[lace was never the same. I for 1 am some of the "goofs" are gone I will not even bother saying any of their names But I can't understand people crying to Stan or any of the mods over what somebody said. BUT THE BROWNS BOARD WILL NEVER DIE I hope

        Awesome. One of the main reasons I stopped posting here is because whatever my opinion was it got turned into the sites opinion. If I were for D.Anderson, it was perceived that the forum was for him.

        I think I distanced myself away long enough to shed that era.

        I had a long talk with Ghoolie today about why we set out to create this forum. I lost some of that drive. I'm much, much, much busier these days, but I'll try to show more effort here.

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          @westside-steve said:

          Actually I'm a moderator and haven't heard a thing.

          WSS

          Activity in regards to small merchandise sales that use to help fund this place dried up years ago. I mean, I don't even believe a Browns stocking cap was purchased in several years. That left this place showing red for awhile. We waited just as you all did, for things to turn around.

          This season, we went out and invested in having (60) I HATE THE STEELER shirts made, in hopes to off-set the costs with their sales. I guess we under-estimated that 90% of the folks who now use this forum have no clue where that iconic shirt idea came from (ED, the longtime member of this group/forum, tailgate cooking shirt - snow, rain or sunshine). So, now we only added to the expenses.

          I'm not hurting for money, in fact, I'm as financially comfortable as at any time in my 49.5 years on earth. That is not the point. With no interest in merchandise, we weighed that against not so much interest in this forum and entertained the idea of shutting things down.

          Guys like Hoorta took shots at my frequent Vegas trips and called for me to un-facebook friend him ... some greeting for the 13 years I did fund this place, and the 20 years we've rubbed elbows on a Browns internet Message Board. He then followed that post with a link to BarkingTard (good grief). CalFox called out the forums mechanics, another stellar Thank-you for long time service. Others cracked about how they could easily donate money .... yeah, sure (temp fix).

          The post/thought was removed. I don't think there is a way to bring up the financials of this place without taking a beating and looking like a beggar, so we will just move-on business as usual, privately. I'm sure the thought has already gotten the ball rolling for others to create a new place and recruiting is already taking place behind-the-scenes, been-there & weathered-that.

          Your a longtimer Bear, this place was built for you, me, and a dwindling group of others (RIP to some). I've stuck it out to create a home for others like the group we assembled from/into from the 1990/s. If the interest is still there, we will continue to provide, but I don't think that it was too much to ask for a sound-check at this horrible time in franchise history.

          We're going to make some changes, but the forum will remain. Let the snide remarks continue! Cheers!

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          @admin-0 said:

          We're going to make some changes, but the forum will remain. Let the snide remarks continue! Cheers!

          I'm a software engineer if you need any help with anything in that regards, I practically invented Linux just ask woody

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            One in ten people even knows what Linux is, dork. I guess that makes me the bigger dork, though, because I use nothing but

            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              @admin-0 said:

              We're going to make some changes, but the forum will remain. Let the snide remarks continue! Cheers!

              I'm a software engineer if you need any help with anything in that regards, I practically invented Linux just ask woody

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              I'm a software engineer if you need any help with anything in that regards, I practically invented Linux just ask woody

              Good to know. I own other business that perhaps we could talk sometime about. We could use some help here on the forum as well. I want to reconfigure some things here behind the scenes that has handcuffed us for some time. We are not ready yet, but let's stay in touch.

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                now, lookie here, dangit. I just said, that for some reason, I get an "index.php" every time I post for

                the last week.

                It's true, that is annoying, I keep deleting them. I do think my keyboard mafunctions is my keyboard now.

                It has started happening other places. I think I wore the thing out. Maybe typed so fast it overheated and

                melted the circuits a bit.

                I'm not one of the originals, but I would really miss this place. Been around a long time, and it just seemed

                wrong timing when one great draft, and our Browns start to kick ass. Assuming that they get a qb with a qb mind,

                to replace rgIII.

                It's just that a have a sorts of Browns garb, Stan, and didn't need to buy any more. This place is actually not replaceable.

                With arrogant nitwillie Dainty Sheply on barking lard, I think I don't go there. I could change my name, change how I post,

                and he'd still boot me off from over there anyways, the first time he fell in Shakespearean love for the prettiest to him

                qb in this draft, ad naseum, as in deja vu all over again.

                i suppose you could charge us 50 cents a month, 6 bucks a year. 64 of us would make the monthly payments then.

                Just seems like this board is too important for future wins to not have it around. The negative wailing is understandable

                in the short run, not the long run, as in, next year.

                Our tractor is green, dammit. lol

                There are surely guys around here that know a ton more about website maintenance than I do.

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                  @bbedward said:

                  I'm a software engineer if you need any help with anything in that regards, I practically invented Linux just ask woody

                  Good to know. I own other business that perhaps we could talk sometime about. We could use some help here on the forum as well. I want to reconfigure some things here behind the scenes that has handcuffed us for some time. We are not ready yet, but let's stay in touch.

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                  @admin-0 said:

                  Good to know. I own other business that perhaps we could talk sometime about. We could use some help here on the forum as well. I want to reconfigure some things here behind the scenes that has handcuffed us for some time. We are not ready yet, but let's stay in touch.

                  Sounds good ?

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                    now, lookie here, dangit. I just said, that for some reason, I get an "index.php" every time I post for

                    the last week.

                    It's true, that is annoying, I keep deleting them. I do think my keyboard mafunctions is my keyboard now.

                    It has started happening other places. I think I wore the thing out. Maybe typed so fast it overheated and

                    melted the circuits a bit.

                    I'm not one of the originals, but I would really miss this place. Been around a long time, and it just seemed

                    wrong timing when one great draft, and our Browns start to kick ass. Assuming that they get a qb with a qb mind,

                    to replace rgIII.

                    It's just that a have a sorts of Browns garb, Stan, and didn't need to buy any more. This place is actually not replaceable.

                    With arrogant nitwillie Dainty Sheply on barking lard, I think I don't go there. I could change my name, change how I post,

                    and he'd still boot me off from over there anyways, the first time he fell in Shakespearean love for the prettiest to him

                    qb in this draft, ad naseum, as in deja vu all over again.

                    i suppose you could charge us 50 cents a month, 6 bucks a year. 64 of us would make the monthly payments then.

                    Just seems like this board is too important for future wins to not have it around. The negative wailing is understandable

                    in the short run, not the long run, as in, next year.

                    Our tractor is green, dammit. lol

                    There are surely guys around here that know a ton more about website maintenance than I do.

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                    ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    Our tractor is green, dammit. lol

                    Haha, thanks for being a good sport. Good luck with keyboard!

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                      well despite the fact that farmer john is a giant nerd, you've got to be heartened to see that there's still a loyal base to this place that can't replace it with some bullshit like the tard or dawgs by nature or some other stupid browns site. I mean, hell, I check the browns side of the board about one in five days but the other parts of the site I check literally every day.

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        well despite the fact that farmer john is a giant nerd, you've got to be heartened to see that there's still a loyal base to this place that can't replace it with some bullshit like the tard or dawgs by nature or some other stupid browns site. I mean, hell, I check the browns side of the board about one in five days but the other parts of the site I check literally every day.

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                        bullshit like the tard or dawgs by nature or some other stupid browns site.

                        Anyone who witnessed how the Tard got started and would still suggest that any faithful from here support that place ... ever ... is a complete idiot. Inspecta's dumb crackhead dead body can still kiss my ass. That paranoid piece of shit was scared of his own posted words.

                        Kids, let that be a lesson, don't post on crack.

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                          Well I wasn't around for all that so I don't know what happened except some of those guys used to post here but I know that their site sucks and I don't like it and there's a bunch of gay ass rules that people have to follow and I can't attack other posters in a personal fashion and that just doesn't work for me.

                          I wonder if heckofajobbrownie went over there though because he was a douche and I wouldn't be surprised if he threw his lot in with a gaggle of douches.

                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                            @admin-0 said:

                            We're going to make some changes, but the forum will remain. Let the snide remarks continue! Cheers!

                            I'm a software engineer if you need any help with anything in that regards, I practically invented Linux just ask woody

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                            @bbedward said:

                            I'm a software engineer programmer if you need any help with anything in that regards, I practically invented Linux just ask woody

                            Yeah he posts on StackOverflow. He's almost an engineer.

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                              Well I wasn't around for all that so I don't know what happened except some of those guys used to post here but I know that their site sucks and I don't like it and there's a bunch of gay ass rules that people have to follow and I can't attack other posters in a personal fashion and that just doesn't work for me.

                              I wonder if heckofajobbrownie went over there though because he was a douche and I wouldn't be surprised if he threw his lot in with a gaggle of douches.

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                              Well I wasn't around for all that so I don't know what happened except some of those guys used to post here but I know that their site sucks

                              If two people disagreed with any of them crackheads the paranoid fucks would think there was a conspiracy against them and so they started using our PM system to recruit other scatter brains to come to their safe place. Inspecta opened the place up and from day #1 stood at the front gate shaking coins in a can begging for crack donations. The dude heard so much laughter in his fried head that he tried to become a comedian. I can't even remember any of their names, but they followed Inspecta the crackhead like he was Charles Manson.

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                                @bbedward said:

                                I'm a software engineer programmer if you need any help with anything in that regards, I practically invented Linux just ask woody

                                Yeah he posts on StackOverflow. He's almost an engineer.

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                                Yeah he posts on StackOverflow. He's almost an engineer.

                                So enjoyable. Honestly.

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                                  @admin-0 said:

                                  We're going to make some changes, but the forum will remain. Let the snide remarks continue! Cheers!

                                  I'm a software engineer if you need any help with anything in that regards, I practically invented Linux just ask woody

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                                  , I practically invented Linux just ask woody

                                  What is this "practically" business about now?

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                                    One in ten people even knows what Linux is, dork. I guess that makes me the bigger dork, though, because I use nothing but

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                                    One in ten people even knows what Linux is, dork. I guess that makes me the bigger dork, though, because I use nothing but

                                    Linux pimps might just possibly be more gay even than Mac pumpers.

                                    Just sayin...

                                    😁

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                                      Nah paying for it is the gayest of all and that's all mac is

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          now, lookie here, dangit. I just said, that for some reason, I get an "index.php" every time I post for

                                          the last week.

                                          It's true, that is annoying, I keep deleting them. I do think my keyboard mafunctions is my keyboard now.

                                          It has started happening other places. I think I wore the thing out. Maybe typed so fast it overheated and

                                          melted the circuits a bit.

                                          I'm not one of the originals, but I would really miss this place. Been around a long time, and it just seemed

                                          wrong timing when one great draft, and our Browns start to kick ass. Assuming that they get a qb with a qb mind,

                                          to replace rgIII.

                                          It's just that a have a sorts of Browns garb, Stan, and didn't need to buy any more. This place is actually not replaceable.

                                          With arrogant nitwillie Dainty Sheply on barking lard, I think I don't go there. I could change my name, change how I post,

                                          and he'd still boot me off from over there anyways, the first time he fell in Shakespearean love for the prettiest to him

                                          qb in this draft, ad naseum, as in deja vu all over again.

                                          i suppose you could charge us 50 cents a month, 6 bucks a year. 64 of us would make the monthly payments then.

                                          Just seems like this board is too important for future wins to not have it around. The negative wailing is understandable

                                          in the short run, not the long run, as in, next year.

                                          Our tractor is green, dammit. lol

                                          There are surely guys around here that know a ton more about website maintenance than I do.

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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          i suppose you could charge us 50 cents a month, 6 bucks a year. 64 of us would make the monthly payments then.

                                          Just seems like this board is too important for future wins to not have it around. The negative wailing is understandable

                                          in the short run, not the long run, as in, next year.

                                          Good idea, but I'd have no clue if that's sufficient.

                                          I go on this board a few times a day,unless I'm camping somewhere. Never was a big-time poster, but I love reading opinions.

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