Did you guys see Veikune's combine?
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He seems like a lb running backs don't want to meet straight on.
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Don't oversell his athleticism: his 40 time was somewhere in the high 4.7's. And he posted a 33" vertical.
His 9'02" broad jump was pretty underwhelming.
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I hope you're right Shep. I'd love to see him excel and start day one. I'm also very curious about the OLB competition in general. Can't wait to see how we use Wimbley differently, how much Hall has learned, and how the vets help out and fit in...
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I dont think measurables make the player, the only measurables that count, are the stats on game day, and how they play in game. Hence why I think Rey is going to be beast. I like Veikune, not as much as Rey, but I like him. I wonder if we could move him inside.
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Hmm...Just looked them up.
Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.87 seconds
Bench Press : 35.0 reps
Vertical Jump : 33.0 inches
Broad Jump : 110.0 inches
3 Cone Drill : 7.2 seconds
20 Yard Shuttle : 4.46 seconds
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wow, I run faster than a 4.87 when Im out of shape, I ran a 4.78 yesterday
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in addition to veikune's combine, there's also how he looked in senior bowl practices, which was AWESOME. his initial burst off the edge was very, very quick, and he had the strength to battle with huge, strong OTs in the event they did get a hand on him.
while his burst won't be as effective in the pros, he wasn't ever meant to be a speed rusher. he's a strength and motor guy, and that's what's going to make him effective.
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When it comes to lbs I value the ability to read and react along with acceleration to be more important than top speed.
Face it, you almost NEVER see a lb run down a burner wr.
Getting to the los and stopping a run for a loss and the ability to get to the qb are all I'm worried about here. Coverage can come with time.
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@shepwrite said:
Hey, Larry English ran a 4.88 and he was a first round pass rusher. It's about short space speed and both guys have hit.Also, both guys ran better in individual workouts.
I agree....he may not chase people down over 40 yards, but he is fast enough to get in to position over 10-15 yards.
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Mangini said he could play inside or out. My bet is he ends up inside. His strenghts are his ability to shed blocks, strong hands and brute strength. That is the definition of an ILB.
I see his hips as being a bit too stiff to be and outside guy in the NFL. But as a guy that can hit the line straight on, I think he could be very good.
He ran with the lineman at the combine but when you put his 3 cone drill and 20 yard shuttle up against the other LB's he ranks down near the bottom.
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When it comes to lbs I value the ability to read and react along with acceleration to be more important than top speed.
Face it, you almost NEVER see a lb run down a burner wr.
Getting to the los and stopping a run for a loss and the ability to get to the qb are all I'm worried about here. Coverage can come with time.
When it comes to lbs I value the ability to read and react along with acceleration to be more important than top speed.
Face it, you almost NEVER see a lb run down a burner wr.
Getting to the los and stopping a run for a loss and the ability to get to the qb are all I'm worried about here. Coverage can come with time.
To me...mentioning LB's and Line of scrimmage in same sentence is most important to me. I can't recall the last time one of our LB really stuck someone at the LOS
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@shepwrite said:
Hey, Larry English ran a 4.88 and he was a first round pass rusher. It's about short space speed and both guys have hit.Also, both guys ran better in individual workouts.
I agree....he may not chase people down over 40 yards, but he is fast enough to get in to position over 10-15 yards.
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Veikune's #94, lines up at LE (opposite the right tackle).
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Well, by adding Barton and Coleman we have definitely improved our chances against the run on paper. It's there that I'm satisfied, but obviously questions remain about the pass rush and that's what makes this thread worth responding to.
If Veikune can get to the QB with any kind of frequency he's already an upgrade over anything we've had since Jamir Miller. Don't get me wrong, I like Hall. I think Mangini/Ryan will get the most out of him, but dammit, we're way past due to hit on a guy that can just get to the passer on natural ability.
Wimbley has proven to be just a one-trick pony so far: speed rusher and that's it. I am hoping Veikune can bring that to the table and more. I am also hoping Hall will continue to improve and Wimbley will find something new. We have GOT to get to the quarterbacks to have any hope of beating the average to better-than-average teams next year. Like I said before, it doesn't matter who's manning the secondary positions if you have no one creating problems for the opposing QB.
Let's all hope Kokinis and Mangini found a gem on the islands.
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Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but here is a series of news clips from Hawaii about Veikune's drafting. There are a few highlites in there, too:
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