squealers cheapshot qb, moore, of Miami helmet to facemask
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The part that pisses me off is there's no payback.
If I were on the Fins coaching staff, I would tell the D that anyone that takes out the rapist would get a bonus, and their fine paid by me.
Ask Sean Payton how that went.
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First, I think it's awesome that you have youtube footage of your B-ball debut...
My story I teased is a lot shorter... Intramural game for my Dorm's B-team. Our pale-skinned, 6'1 "Center" clearly hacked the opponent's 6'5-ish Center's 10' jump shot in the lane... not a cheap shot, but no call by the student refs.
I ended up with the ball. We did not have the numbers to fast break so I held up. But as they set their D, a lane opened from the top left of the key to the right side of the basket so I drove in.
As I crossed the top of the key I clearly heard the opposing Center say, "I got hit, so I'm going to hit someone." As he reached across me with his right arm "for the ball", his right shoulder hit my jaw hard. I immediately came up swinging. He reacted and leaned back, so instead of fist to face I landed a hard right to his throat incapacitating him... sent him staggering backwards. I wasn't done and went after him, but my teammates grabbed me before I got to him.
Of course I was ejected; he was not (which pissed me off even more). But he did not play after that either.
Two lessons here:- I learned I had a flash point I never knew I had.
- What ends up being "a cheap shot", e.g. a "throat shot", does not always start that way.
I think #2 applies to Dupree in Sunday's game.
Last point... Paralysis induced by neck trauma is almost exclusively due to compression of the spine. It's the reason behind the whole "Heads Up" campaign. The NFL's most infamous case, Tatum hitting Daryl Stingley, is a textbook example. Stingley instinctively dropped his head "to protect himself (his face)" a split second before impact. Had he not done so then he might have lost teeth and/or had his jaw broken, but he likely walks today. Same story with Nick Buoniconti's son... dropped his head making a tackle for The Citadel.
Dropping the head in instinctual. It has to be trained out of players. And as with most training, the earlier it starts the more successful it will be. Thus "Heads Up's" emphasis at the youth football level.
Side impacts? Twisting from facemasks? Neck sprains are about the limit. The neck is far more capable of enduring bending and torque than it is compression or "stretching", as in from a noose. In part due to the design of the spine, but also due to the muscle mass that surrounds it.Sometime in the heat of a game or match it's easy to get pissed off. I still hold the the University of Dayton record for a tennis racquet toss. Over two courts and a 20' tree.
Obviously we've mellowed as the years have accumulated...
Cheap shots get in the head of the other team. That helps you win. So to some degree, it's smart.
Not real big on trying to injure guys (unless it's retaliation, as has been noted), but hitting the QB a hair late, grabbing someone's thigh in a fumble pile, talking trash--I love it all.Thigh grabbing? lol... Heard of biting in piles, but never "thigh grabbing".
I perfectly understand, agree with and accept the role of "chippie stuff" and its cumulative effects. It's part of the psychological war within the game. But there's a very bright line at "intent to injure" that in the name of "player safety" has encroached steadily into the game we love leading to the over-protection of QBs, RBs and WRs... even long snappers.
There was a play yesterday, I think in the NYG-GB game, where Aikman commented on a roughing penalty could have been called when IIRC a NYG DL's hand brushed across Rodgers' face mask of ... and it could have been. But it was a better no call. And nary a game goes by that we see an "inadvertent" face mask get penalized 15 yards.
First, I think it's awesome that you have youtube footage of your B-ball debut...
My story I teased is a lot shorter... Intramural game for my Dorm's B-team. Our pale-skinned, 6'1 "Center" clearly hacked the opponent's 6'5-ish Center's 10' jump shot in the lane... not a cheap shot, but no call by the student refs.
I ended up with the ball. We did not have the numbers to fast break so I held up. But as they set their D, a lane opened from the top left of the key to the right side of the basket so I drove in.
As I crossed the top of the key I clearly heard the opposing Center say, "I got hit, so I'm going to hit someone." As he reached across me with his right arm "for the ball", his right shoulder hit my jaw hard. I immediately came up swinging. He reacted and leaned back, so instead of fist to face I landed a hard right to his throat incapacitating him... sent him staggering backwards. I wasn't done and went after him, but my teammates grabbed me before I got to him.
Of course I was ejected; he was not (which pissed me off even more). But he did not play after that either.
Two lessons here:
- I learned I had a flash point I never knew I had.
- What ends up being "a cheap shot", e.g. a "throat shot", does not always start that way.
Last point... Paralysis induced by neck trauma is almost exclusively due to compression of the spine. It's the reason behind the whole "Heads Up" campaign. The NFL's most infamous case, Tatum hitting Daryl Stingley, is a textbook example. Stingley instinctively dropped his head "to protect himself (his face)" a split second before impact. Had he not done so then he might have lost teeth and/or had his jaw broken, but he likely walks today. Same story with Nick Buoniconti's son... dropped his head making a tackle for The Citadel.
Dropping the head in instinctual. It has to be trained out of players. And as with most training, the earlier it starts the more successful it will be. Thus "Heads Up's" emphasis at the youth football level.
Side impacts? Twisting from facemasks? Neck sprains are about the limit. The neck is far more capable of enduring bending and torque than it is compression or "stretching", as in from a noose. In part due to the design of the spine, but also due to the muscle mass that surrounds it.
Obviously we've mellowed as the years have accumulated...
Thigh grabbing? lol... Heard of biting in piles, but never "thigh grabbing".
I perfectly understand, agree with and accept the role of "chippie stuff" and its cumulative effects. It's part of the psychological war within the game. But there's a very bright line at "intent to injure" that in the name of "player safety" has encroached steadily into the game we love leading to the over-protection of QBs, RBs and WRs... even long snappers.
There was a play yesterday, I think in the NYG-GB game, where Aikman commented on a roughing penalty could have been called when IIRC a NYG DL's hand brushed across Rodgers' face mask of ... and it could have been. But it was a better no call. And nary a game goes by that we see an "inadvertent" face mask get penalized 15 yards.
The Clemson guy last week was one example.
This was the first I saw of it (2010):
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A lot of teams look soft when they play the Steelers.
The Browns didn't last week. They dominated the Steelers physically.. Steelers missing only their "soft" offensive skill players (which, yes, makes all the difference)
Kansas City is one of the most physically dominating teams in the NFL....so lets see what happens.
Lol. Pouncey, tuitt, ben, brown, bell and ladarius green were all out. You lost to landry jones. The playoffs are a different animal but we already beat the shit out of the chiefs once this season.The Browns didn't last week. They dominated the Steelers physically.. Steelers missing only their "soft" offensive skill players (which, yes, makes all the difference)
Kansas City is one of the most physically dominating teams in the NFL....so lets see what happens.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
The real test Vag, will be when the Squeelers get to Foxboro.
That's when Brady will beat the yinzers worse than Joey Porter beat the doorman at the club last night.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Lol. Pouncey, tuitt, ben, brown, bell and ladarius green were all out. You lost to landry jones. The playoffs are a different animal but we already beat the shit out of the chiefs once this season.The Browns didn't last week. They dominated the Steelers physically.. Steelers missing only their "soft" offensive skill players (which, yes, makes all the difference)
Kansas City is one of the most physically dominating teams in the NFL....so lets see what happens.
Lol. Pouncey, tuitt, ben, brown, bell and ladarius green were all out. You lost to landry jones. The playoffs are a different animal but we already beat the shit out of the chiefs once this season.
Tuitt and Green don't matter. The others do. And, yes, the Browns did everything in their power to lose to your POS backup QB.
And the Dolphins beat the shit out of the Steelers once this season. So, clearly, obviously the same thing that happened in the regular season will happen in the post season. Right?
And...remember, the Chiefs played without a couple of their top defenders when they played you: Justin Houston I believe, and another guy.
And this game is to be played in KC. Advantage Chiefs.
But.....I will say this one thing: Drama Queen Ben R's "injury" is just a pile of poop. The biggest faker on the planet. So his "poor, poor pitiful me" act won't go over. He will be just fine. Unless, of course, the Chiefs defense really does get to him....and you have to rely on the aforesaid Landry Jones to win that game. Insert LOLs here.
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The real test Vag, will be when the Squeelers get to Foxboro.
That's when Brady will beat the yinzers worse than Joey Porter beat the doorman at the club last night.
The real test Vag, will be when the Squeelers get to Foxboro.
That's when Brady will beat the yinzers worse than Joey Porter beat the doorman at the club last night.
No, the Chiefs WILL be a real test for them.
I believe, right now that the Chiefs are generally about a 2.5 point favorite.
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Tour, it's more about respect than anything.Can't go along with the "it'd be great if we do it" crowd.
You see it in baseball all the time, anytime a pitcher maliciously hits a batter, you can bet your ass when the other team takes the mound a fastball will have their name on it.
Anytime something dirty is dished out, I don't mind seeing some retribution.
What comes around goes around.
You notice Steeler players and fans are always unapologetic about their cheap shots calling it "Steeler football"...."playing to the whistle"....etc.They fear no retribution and it amazes me that some fans don't see this.Tour, it's more about respect than anything.
You see it in baseball all the time, anytime a pitcher maliciously hits a batter, you can bet your ass when the other team takes the mound a fastball will have their name on it.
Anytime something dirty is dished out, I don't mind seeing some retribution.
What comes around goes around.
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I agree with CD. You saw it in the bengals game last year. Shazier hit that receiver with the crown and thats when burfict went legend. Burfict sometimes takes uncalled for cheap shots, and that i have no interest in. But an enforcer that sees bs happen and dishes it back is what i want on tje browns. Burfict took out brown and roethlisberger in splendid fashion
Burfict is out of control. He costs his team games and big ones to boot. The so called enforcer mentality shouldnt cost you wins and ive read through the grapevine his own teammates dont appreciate his bs. Shame because hes an animal of a lb with the brain of a damn squirrel. He would be more controlled on a team with a head strong coach and better veteran leadership. As it stands he looks to pac man jones lol.
you left out drunken, assaultive, disorderly linebacker coach.Burfict is out of control. He costs his team games and big ones to boot. The so called enforcer mentality shouldnt cost you wins and ive read through the grapevine his own teammates dont appreciate his bs. Shame because hes an animal of a lb with the brain of a damn squirrel. He would be more controlled on a team with a head strong coach and better veteran leadership. As it stands he looks to pac man jones lol.
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C'mon, cal, your outrage at the Steelers "dirty play" is about as sincere as that phony "your team cheats" web site you so love.
Dupree made the mistake of not keeping his head up which is committed by 90 percent of the defenders in the game at one time or another. He deserved the flag and got it. But comparing him with Burfict, who pulls cheesy stunts like twisting guys' ankles after he tackles them, is absurd. And I guess you missed the knee shot he gave Roethlisberger's shoulder after sacking him in the playoff game last year, which is the reason Ben had to leave the game in the first place. Funny you didn't show any outrage then.
But ramble on anyway!
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Gip:
You couldn't be more wrong, Tuitt and Green are vital players. Tuitt's the main reason the DL hasn't been a disaster since Heyward was lost for the season. You could see the big drop-off by the defense when Tuitt went out hurt one game. The Steelers' offense takes things up a big notch with Green at TE. He gets downfield like no other TE they have on the roster. I do agree that the Brownies did everything they could to help out Jones, but hey, they're the Brownies. That's what they do.
Canton Dawg:
That's IF they get to Foxborough, playing at KC is no easy task. And going back to what I said to Gipster, the Steelers will need Green should they meet the Cheatriots. Their chances without him drop off big-time. They might be able to beat KC without Green, New England not so much.
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You notice Steeler players and fans are always unapologetic about their cheap shots calling it "Steeler football"...."playing to the whistle"....etc.They fear no retribution and it amazes me that some fans don't see this.Tour, it's more about respect than anything.
You see it in baseball all the time, anytime a pitcher maliciously hits a batter, you can bet your ass when the other team takes the mound a fastball will have their name on it.
Anytime something dirty is dished out, I don't mind seeing some retribution.
What comes around goes around.
You notice Steeler players and fans are always unapologetic about their cheap shots calling it "Steeler football"...."playing to the whistle"....etc.They fear no retribution and it amazes me that some fans don't see this.
Yes some fans don't see this, You're one of them.
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Gip:
You couldn't be more wrong, Tuitt and Green are vital players. Tuitt's the main reason the DL hasn't been a disaster since Heyward was lost for the season. You could see the big drop-off by the defense when Tuitt went out hurt one game. The Steelers' offense takes things up a big notch with Green at TE. He gets downfield like no other TE they have on the roster. I do agree that the Brownies did everything they could to help out Jones, but hey, they're the Brownies. That's what they do.
Canton Dawg:
That's IF they get to Foxborough, playing at KC is no easy task. And going back to what I said to Gipster, the Steelers will need Green should they meet the Cheatriots. Their chances without him drop off big-time. They might be able to beat KC without Green, New England not so much.
Gip:
You couldn't be more wrong, Tuitt and Green are vital players. Tuitt's the main reason the DL hasn't been a disaster since Heyward was lost for the season. You could see the big drop-off by the defense when Tuitt went out hurt one game. The Steelers' offense takes things up a big notch with Green at TE. He gets downfield like no other TE they have on the roster. I do agree that the Brownies did everything they could to help out Jones, but hey, they're the Brownies. That's what they do.
Canton Dawg:
That's IF they get to Foxborough, playing at KC is no easy task. And going back to what I said to Gipster, the Steelers will need Green should they meet the Cheatriots. Their chances without him drop off big-time. They might be able to beat KC without Green, New England not so much.
I am not saying that those two guys are not fairly good players.....but they are NOTHING vital like BR, Bell, and Brown are, or Pouncey.
They barely make a pimple bump of difference. Those other guys make a mountain of difference.
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A lot of teams look soft when they play the Steelers.
The Browns didn't last week. They dominated the Steelers physically.. Steelers missing only their "soft" offensive skill players (which, yes, makes all the difference)
Kansas City is one of the most physically dominating teams in the NFL....so lets see what happens.
The Browns didn't last week. They dominated the Steelers physically.. Steelers missing only their "soft" offensive skill players (which, yes, makes all the difference)
Kansas City is one of the most physically dominating teams in the NFL....so lets see what happens.
Oh please. The Dolphins dominated the Steelers physically too...in the 4th quarter when it was garbage time.
All four quarters vs. the browns was garbage time for the Steelers.
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You notice Steeler players and fans are always unapologetic about their cheap shots calling it "Steeler football"...."playing to the whistle"....etc.They fear no retribution and it amazes me that some fans don't see this.Tour, it's more about respect than anything.
You see it in baseball all the time, anytime a pitcher maliciously hits a batter, you can bet your ass when the other team takes the mound a fastball will have their name on it.
Anytime something dirty is dished out, I don't mind seeing some retribution.
What comes around goes around.
At the same time they have a hatred of Vontaze Burfict, calling him a dirty player.You notice Steeler players and fans are always unapologetic about their cheap shots calling it "Steeler football"...."playing to the whistle"....etc.They fear no retribution and it amazes me that some fans don't see this.
Irony at its finest.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Gip:
You couldn't be more wrong, Tuitt and Green are vital players. Tuitt's the main reason the DL hasn't been a disaster since Heyward was lost for the season. You could see the big drop-off by the defense when Tuitt went out hurt one game. The Steelers' offense takes things up a big notch with Green at TE. He gets downfield like no other TE they have on the roster. I do agree that the Brownies did everything they could to help out Jones, but hey, they're the Brownies. That's what they do.
Canton Dawg:
That's IF they get to Foxborough, playing at KC is no easy task. And going back to what I said to Gipster, the Steelers will need Green should they meet the Cheatriots. Their chances without him drop off big-time. They might be able to beat KC without Green, New England not so much.
I am not saying that those two guys are not fairly good players.....but they are NOTHING vital like BR, Bell, and Brown are, or Pouncey.
They barely make a pimple bump of difference. Those other guys make a mountain of difference.
I am not saying that those two guys are not fairly good players.....but they are NOTHING vital like BR, Bell, and Brown are, or Pouncey.
They barely make a pimple bump of difference. Those other guys make a mountain of difference.
Yes they do make a mountain of a difference....that last Steelers Browns game is a blowout if was a must win for the Steelers.
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Canton Dawg:
You're comparing a Cincy Bungal who's one more cheap shot away from being retired and a Steeler who got flagged once for leading with the helmet, and you're finding "irony" here? Uh huh.
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At the same time they have a hatred of Vontaze Burfict, calling him a dirty player.You notice Steeler players and fans are always unapologetic about their cheap shots calling it "Steeler football"...."playing to the whistle"....etc.They fear no retribution and it amazes me that some fans don't see this.
Irony at its finest.
At the same time they have a hatred of Vontaze Burfict, calling him a dirty player.
Irony at its finest.
No Steeler makes the top 10. To fuckin bad.
Two bengals do.
http://www.prosportstop10.com/top-10-dirtiest-nfl-players-2016/5/
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Gip, while it's true that Green and Tuitt aren't in BR's or Brown's league (how many are?) they're a bit above "pimple bump" status. Tuitt is a contender for best player on defense after Heyward, and trust me, the Steeler offense with Green and without him is night and day. The trouble with Green is his availability, otherwise he's a top 10 TE. His downfield skills are up there with Gronk's and Kelce's. He's that good.
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Browns fans whining because the Steelers D plays to rough, but so do the Rats and Bungles D's.
Yet you'd give your left nuts to have the browns be a part of that conversation.
That bountygate D coordinator the browns recently signed was a good hire.
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You have to wonder why stinky Stuart and his Steeler-loving ilk post here constantly. Shouldn't you be circle jerking over bell's face on steelersfever or some other gay site?
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