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Age of NFL starting Quarterbacks

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  • @baconhound said:

    Bold are in playoff teams

    Half of the playoff teams then come with 6 out of the 11 oldest QBs.

    What does that tell us?

    @the-gipper said:

    Half of the playoff teams then come with 6 out of the 11 oldest QBs.

    What does that tell us?

    What it tells me is unless you think you have that can't miss guy out of college you plug other holes and try to find a vet to run the team until you find "the guy".

  • That means we should have started McCown. ?

  • Interesting stuff...

    Boiled down it says to me you only get to be an old starter, if you're good... very good... to great.

    The other stark point is how much turnover at the top of the QB pyramid there is going to be in the next 3-5 years. Which brings us back to Gip's follow up question: How many teams will look to secure their future franchise this year and what pick will they invest?

    One team in this list's top tier pops out to me as most likely to spend aggressively... Arizona with the 13th overall pick. The combo of Palmer's age, injury history and recent performance level should prompt them to aggressively seek their future. And they are the one team above the noted three-year gap that seem most poised to win now should their QB situation be elevated.

    The Cards' problems are:

    • the lack of a clear, "ready Day one" QB prospect;
    • they are too far down to be a Browns trade partner;
    • the #2 and 3 teams, SF and CHI, are high, QB-need teams as well; and
    • the QB needy Jets at #6.

    SF carries the added unknown of a new HC coming into the picture as does JAX in the #4 slot.

    The question ends up being what it always is... individual team evaluations of the QB talent available and where they belong in the 2017 prospect pecking order followed by an assessment of whether their need justifies the elevation of any prospect over those they rank above that prospect.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Half of the playoff teams then come with 6 out of the 11 oldest QBs.

    What does that tell us?

    What it tells me is unless you think you have that can't miss guy out of college you plug other holes and try to find a vet to run the team until you find "the guy".

    @baconhound said:

    What it tells me is unless you think you have that can't miss guy out of college you plug other holes and try to find a vet to run the team until you find "the guy".

    Except, note this: of those 6 "old" QBs that are in the playoffs.....5 of them are still with the team that drafted them: BR, Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, Eli (well...Eli not drafted by Giants...but he was acquired in a day or two of the day he was drafted). Only Alex Smith has changed teams. (originally with 49ers)

  • Interesting stuff...

    Boiled down it says to me you only get to be an old starter, if you're good... very good... to great.

    The other stark point is how much turnover at the top of the QB pyramid there is going to be in the next 3-5 years. Which brings us back to Gip's follow up question: How many teams will look to secure their future franchise this year and what pick will they invest?

    One team in this list's top tier pops out to me as most likely to spend aggressively... Arizona with the 13th overall pick. The combo of Palmer's age, injury history and recent performance level should prompt them to aggressively seek their future. And they are the one team above the noted three-year gap that seem most poised to win now should their QB situation be elevated.

    The Cards' problems are:

    • the lack of a clear, "ready Day one" QB prospect;
    • they are too far down to be a Browns trade partner;
    • the #2 and 3 teams, SF and CHI, are high, QB-need teams as well; and
    • the QB needy Jets at #6.

    SF carries the added unknown of a new HC coming into the picture as does JAX in the #4 slot.

    The question ends up being what it always is... individual team evaluations of the QB talent available and where they belong in the 2017 prospect pecking order followed by an assessment of whether their need justifies the elevation of any prospect over those they rank above that prospect.

    @tour2ma said:

    Interesting stuff...

    Boiled down it says to me you only get to be an old starter, if you're good... very good... to great.

    The other stark point is how much turnover at the top of the QB pyramid there is going to be in the next 3-5 years. Which brings us back to Gip's follow up question: How many teams will look to secure their future franchise this year and what pick will they invest?

    One team in this list's top tier pops out to me as most likely to spend aggressively... Arizona with the 13th overall pick. The combo of Palmer's age, injury history and recent performance level should prompt them to aggressively seek their future. And they are the one team above the noted three-year gap that seem most poised to win now should their QB situation be elevated.

    The Cards' problems are:

    • the lack of a clear, "ready Day one" QB prospect;
    • they are too far down to be a Browns trade partner;
    • the #2 and 3 teams, SF and CHI, are high, QB-need teams as well; and
    • the QB needy Jets at #6.

    SF carries the added unknown of a new HC coming into the picture as does JAX in the #4 slot.

    The question ends up being what it always is... individual team evaluations of the QB talent available and where they belong in the 2017 prospect pecking order followed by an assessment of whether their need justifies the elevation of any prospect over those they rank above that prospect.

    Agree. Cardinals with Palmer seem to be the team most in need of an imminent replacement. While Brady is 3 years older, it seem that Palmer has 3 more years of wear and tear on him.

    The Cardinals may have about as bad a record of drafting QBs as the Browns do though. Since taking Neil Lomax in 1981, their best QB pick was Jake Plummer.

    They had major misses with the likes of Matt Leinert and Kelly Stouffer.

    Of course, they are the team that drafted Josh McCown in 2002.

    So, they are definitely in the market. The question is will it be the draft....or the after market.

  • Cards are an interesting one there were lots of rumours they wanted Jonny and that's why we went up ahead wasn't there?

  • Cards are an interesting one there were lots of rumours they wanted Jonny and that's why we went up ahead wasn't there?

    @londonbrown said:

    Cards are an interesting one there were lots of rumours they wanted Jonny and that's why we went up ahead wasn't there?

    Too bad we didn't let them have him.

  • Garappolo is 25. Year older than Wentz, year younger than Carr.

    Carr and Grop can be the new Brady and Manning vying for AFC supremecy for the next decade.

    Or we could draft RGIV because he beat Alabama ... or Brady Quinn II cause he won a couple college games and went to Mentor.

    Zombo

  • @londonbrown said:

    Cards are an interesting one there were lots of rumours they wanted Jonny and that's why we went up ahead wasn't there?

    Too bad we didn't let them have him.

    @the-gipper said:

    Too bad we didn't let them have him.

    Too true Gipster

  • Garappolo is 25. Year older than Wentz, year younger than Carr.

    Carr and Grop can be the new Brady and Manning vying for AFC supremecy for the next decade.

    Or we could draft RGIV because he beat Alabama ... or Brady Quinn II cause he won a couple college games and went to Mentor.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Garappolo is 25. Year older than Wentz, year younger than Carr.

    Carr and Grop can be the new Brady and Manning vying for AFC supremecy for the next decade.

    Or we could draft RGIV because he beat Alabama ... or Brady Quinn II cause he won a couple college games and went to Mentor.

    Zombo

    Or we can pay a high price for the next Scott Mitchell/Ryan Mallet....and pass on the next Aaron Rodgers.

  • @baconhound said:

    Bold are in playoff teams

    Half of the playoff teams then come with 6 out of the 11 oldest QBs.

    What does that tell us?

    @the-gipper said:

    Half of the playoff teams then come with 6 out of the 11 oldest QBs.

    What does that tell us?

    That RGIII blows Donkey Dick

    Not sure how the question led to that answer...though, that answer may be correct....but to a different question.

  • Interesting read plus you have to factor in the team personnel, coaching, front office as to the QBs listed and their success or failure in the NFL.

    I'm looking into the future on some of the under 30 group and wondering how many will even make it to 35 or maybe just be journeyman...or the next BROWNS starting QB. 😉

    Panthers: Cam Newton 28...has had a lot of pounding with his running style

    Colts: Andrew Luck 28....still good but still can't catch Peyton

    Seahawks: Russell Wilson 28....will go to 35

    Browns: RGIII 27....done, please

    Bears: Matt Barkley 27

    Texans: Brock Osweiler 26.....ooop$

    Raiders: Derek Carr 26....might make 35

    Jags: Blake Bortles 25....might be great on the right team

    Broncos: Trevor Siemian 25...?

    Eagles: Carson Wentz 24....?

    Vikings: Teddy Twatwater 24

    Cowboys: Dak Prescott 24....has a good supporting cast

    Bucs: Jameis Winston 23....bright future but maybe Cam II?

    Titans: Marcus Mariota 23....better than I expected

    Rams: Jared Goff 22....maybe the second best QB in LA next year?