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  • I think all of this talk about Watson being a second or even third round pick is simply ridiculous. NFL teams need QB's, and they are willing to take chances on them time after time. Even if Watson "slides" in the first round a bit, there will be teams fighting over each other to trade up with the teams that don't need QB's in order to snatch him.

  • I think all of this talk about Watson being a second or even third round pick is simply ridiculous. NFL teams need QB's, and they are willing to take chances on them time after time. Even if Watson "slides" in the first round a bit, there will be teams fighting over each other to trade up with the teams that don't need QB's in order to snatch him.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I think all of this talk about Watson being a second or even third round pick is simply ridiculous. NFL teams need QB's, and they are willing to take chances on them time after time. Even if Watson "slides" in the first round a bit, there will be teams fighting over each other to trade up with the teams that don't need QB's in order to snatch him.

    Watson will be a Top 5 pick.

  • Lattimore declaring now gives some shake up to DBs in the late 1st to mid 2nd round range.

  • Lattimore declaring now gives some shake up to DBs in the late 1st to mid 2nd round range.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Lattimore declaring now gives some shake up to DBs in the late 1st to mid 2nd round range.

    Where does he project to go, and should the Browns be interested? (of course, silly question....of course the Browns should be interested in any talented DB coming out)

  • Lattimore declaring now gives some shake up to DBs in the late 1st to mid 2nd round range.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Lattimore declaring now gives some shake up to DBs in the late 1st to mid 2nd round range.

    More talent pushed down to #33... works for me.

    Come to us draft... come to us...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Lattimore declaring now gives some shake up to DBs in the late 1st to mid 2nd round range.

    Where does he project to go, and should the Browns be interested? (of course, silly question....of course the Browns should be interested in any talented DB coming out)

    @the-gipper said:

    Where does he project to go, and should the Browns be interested? (of course, silly question....of course the Browns should be interested in any talented DB coming out)

    1st round talent that shook the injury bug but only started one season.

    He could go mid 1st to mid 2nd.

    If he's there mid 2nd I take him without question. I might be willing to sacrifice taking Kizer for Marshon should they drop.

  • This is from Walter Football.


    The question is, would the Browns take Garrett over Trubisky when they're desperate for a franchise quarterback? Well, there is precedent for this, as the Texans picked Jadeveon Clowney when they really needed a signal-caller in the 2014 NFL Draft. Houston simply had Clowney way above all the quarterbacks, and that could be the case with Cleveland and Garrett.
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    ...but Houston is still looking for it's "signal-caller". They're quite hard to get.
    Perhaps Clowney will beat the Patriots this weekend.
  • This is from Walter Football.


    The question is, would the Browns take Garrett over Trubisky when they're desperate for a franchise quarterback? Well, there is precedent for this, as the Texans picked Jadeveon Clowney when they really needed a signal-caller in the 2014 NFL Draft. Houston simply had Clowney way above all the quarterbacks, and that could be the case with Cleveland and Garrett.
    ---------------
    ...but Houston is still looking for it's "signal-caller". They're quite hard to get.
    Perhaps Clowney will beat the Patriots this weekend.

    @orion said:

    This is from Walter Football.

    ...but Houston is still looking for it's "signal-caller". They're quite hard to get.

    Perhaps Clowney will beat the Patriots this weekend.

    I'll bet the Texans are experiencing buyers remorse after giving Osweiler that fat $72 million contract.
  • @orion said:

    This is from Walter Football.

    ...but Houston is still looking for it's "signal-caller". They're quite hard to get.

    Perhaps Clowney will beat the Patriots this weekend.

    I'll bet the Texans are experiencing buyers remorse after giving Osweiler that fat $72 million contract.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I'll bet the Texans are experiencing buyers remorse after giving Osweiler that fat $72 million contract.

    They're doing what we've been doing. Looking through the trash (other team's backups) to get a QB.

  • This is from Walter Football.


    The question is, would the Browns take Garrett over Trubisky when they're desperate for a franchise quarterback? Well, there is precedent for this, as the Texans picked Jadeveon Clowney when they really needed a signal-caller in the 2014 NFL Draft. Houston simply had Clowney way above all the quarterbacks, and that could be the case with Cleveland and Garrett.
    ---------------
    ...but Houston is still looking for it's "signal-caller". They're quite hard to get.
    Perhaps Clowney will beat the Patriots this weekend.

    @orion said:

    This is from Walter Football.

    ...but Houston is still looking for it's "signal-caller". They're quite hard to get.
    Perhaps Clowney will beat the Patriots this weekend.

    And Houston tried like hell to trade the #1 overall... and had no takers. What does that tell you about that QB class?

  • @orion said:

    This is from Walter Football.

    ...but Houston is still looking for it's "signal-caller". They're quite hard to get.
    Perhaps Clowney will beat the Patriots this weekend.

    And Houston tried like hell to trade the #1 overall... and had no takers. What does that tell you about that QB class?

    @tour2ma said:

    What does that tell you about that QB class?

    Derek Carr at the top of the 2nd round was a bargain for Oakland.

  • @orion said:

    This is from Walter Football.

    ...but Houston is still looking for it's "signal-caller". They're quite hard to get.
    Perhaps Clowney will beat the Patriots this weekend.

    And Houston tried like hell to trade the #1 overall... and had no takers. What does that tell you about that QB class?

    @tour2ma said:

    And Houston tried like hell to trade the #1 overall... and had no takers. What does that tell you about that QB class?

    @tour2ma said:

    And Houston tried like hell to trade the #1 overall... and had no takers. What does that tell you about that QB class?

    That you had Bortles Bridgewater and Manziel and Carr..

    If the Browns had taken Carr as many suggested we wouldn't be in this QB pickle.

  • @tour2ma said:

    What does that tell you about that QB class?

    Derek Carr at the top of the 2nd round was a bargain for Oakland.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Derek Carr at the top of the 2nd round was a bargain for Oakland.

    YESssss INDEEDY DOOTY! If we had not traded up to get JFF and stayed put and let the draft come to us! Carr could have been our QB and we could all have a two horse race.....Garrett or Allen!!! Just My Humble Opinion.......GO BROWNS!!!

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Derek Carr at the top of the 2nd round was a bargain for Oakland.

    YESssss INDEEDY DOOTY! If we had not traded up to get JFF and stayed put and let the draft come to us! Carr could have been our QB and we could all have a two horse race.....Garrett or Allen!!! Just My Humble Opinion.......GO BROWNS!!!

    @brownsnmopar said:

    YESssss INDEEDY DOOTY! If we had not traded up to get JFF and stayed put and let the draft come to us! Carr could have been our QB and we could all have a two horse race.....Garrett or Allen!!! Just My Humble Opinion.......GO BROWNS!!!

    and....JFF woulda been there too......nobody was gonna draft that idiot and we traded UP to do it.......still smfh

  • One of my best football buddies lives in LA. He's a diehard Raiders fan just like many Browns fans. He's been waiting for years to be a good team. We've had many a late night battles on Madden with the two shittiest teams on the game... yet, it's all about how you use the talent in the end I might add. I was happy for him that they finally got a good QB in Carr and we laughed about him getting Mack and Carr and us getting Gilbert and Manziel.... ugh, but I digress, it sucks that now after all the turmoil the Raiders look to be headed to Las Vegas just when they've turned the corner... 🙁 God forbid that happen to us.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Derek Carr at the top of the 2nd round was a bargain for Oakland.

    YESssss INDEEDY DOOTY! If we had not traded up to get JFF and stayed put and let the draft come to us! Carr could have been our QB and we could all have a two horse race.....Garrett or Allen!!! Just My Humble Opinion.......GO BROWNS!!!

    @brownsnmopar said:

    YESssss INDEEDY DOOTY! If we had not traded up to get JFF and stayed put and let the draft come to us! Carr could have been our QB and we could all have a two horse race.....Garrett or Allen!!! Just My Humble Opinion.......GO BROWNS!!!

    Hopefully we wouldn't be drafting #1 overall this year if we had drafted Carr.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Derek Carr at the top of the 2nd round was a bargain for Oakland.

    YESssss INDEEDY DOOTY! If we had not traded up to get JFF and stayed put and let the draft come to us! Carr could have been our QB and we could all have a two horse race.....Garrett or Allen!!! Just My Humble Opinion.......GO BROWNS!!!

    @brownsnmopar said:

    YESssss INDEEDY DOOTY! If we had not traded up to get JFF and stayed put and let the draft come to us! Carr could have been our QB and we could all have a two horse race.....Garrett or Allen!!! Just My Humble Opinion.......GO BROWNS!!!

    Or, we could have had Carr and Bosa perhaps.

    And, here is a thing about analytics......is it just possible that our FO "OVERANALYZES" things?

    I mean, the straight gut instinct in me would have said: "get the bigger, bigger armed QB in Carr, not the media darling pipsqueak to bring attention to ourselves."

    Or: "take the monster defensive lineman/pass rusher at #2", don't trade down for an undersized WR and future picks, where we may still be wanting to get that edge rusher".

    Sometimes they outthink themselves.

    Fair to say?

  • One of my best football buddies lives in LA. He's a diehard Raiders fan just like many Browns fans. He's been waiting for years to be a good team. We've had many a late night battles on Madden with the two shittiest teams on the game... yet, it's all about how you use the talent in the end I might add. I was happy for him that they finally got a good QB in Carr and we laughed about him getting Mack and Carr and us getting Gilbert and Manziel.... ugh, but I digress, it sucks that now after all the turmoil the Raiders look to be headed to Las Vegas just when they've turned the corner... 🙁 God forbid that happen to us.

    @poeticg said:

    One of my best football buddies lives in LA. He's a diehard Raiders fan just like many Browns fans. He's been waiting for years to be a good team. We've had many a late night battles on Madden with the two shittiest teams on the game... yet, it's all about how you use the talent in the end I might add. I was happy for him that they finally got a good QB in Carr and we laughed about him getting Mack and Carr and us getting Gilbert and Manziel.... ugh, but I digress, it sucks that now after all the turmoil the Raiders look to be headed to Las Vegas just when they've turned the corner... 🙁 God forbid that happen to us.

    Yep, and that year, the gut feeling would have said take Khalil Mack or Sammy Watkins., don't trade down for a DB.

  • @orion said:

    This is from Walter Football.

    ...but Houston is still looking for it's "signal-caller". They're quite hard to get.
    Perhaps Clowney will beat the Patriots this weekend.

    And Houston tried like hell to trade the #1 overall... and had no takers. What does that tell you about that QB class?

    @tour2ma said:

    And Houston tried like hell to trade the #1 overall... and had no takers. What does that tell you about that QB class?

    But the point is the good pass rusher is not throwing any TD passes for them.

    Is the good QB that can throw TD passes without throwing as many INT's available to us at #1?

    Perhaps not.

    But our evaluaters had better make pretty darned sure of that because the good QB is quite a bit more valuable to a football team than the good pass rusher. (both are VERY important...but the QB's value to a football team is off the charts).