Draft Talk
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I will say one thing. If we do in fact take a QB #1 overall, I will laugh myself silly when we play the teams that did take Allen or Garrett when they strip sack our hapless rookie. Better than crying as I say, "Stupid fucking Browns!"
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YESssss INDEEDY DOOTY! If we had not traded up to get JFF and stayed put and let the draft come to us! Carr could have been our QB and we could all have a two horse race.....Garrett or Allen!!! Just My Humble Opinion.......GO BROWNS!!!
Or, we could have had Carr and Bosa perhaps.
And, here is a thing about analytics......is it just possible that our FO "OVERANALYZES" things?
I mean, the straight gut instinct in me would have said: "get the bigger, bigger armed QB in Carr, not the media darling pipsqueak to bring attention to ourselves."
Or: "take the monster defensive lineman/pass rusher at #2", don't trade down for an undersized WR and future picks, where we may still be wanting to get that edge rusher".
Sometimes they outthink themselves.
Fair to say?
Or, we could have had Carr and Bosa perhaps.
And, here is a thing about analytics......is it just possible that our FO "OVERANALYZES" things?
I mean, the straight gut instinct in me would have said: "get the bigger, bigger armed QB in Carr, not the media darling pipsqueak to bring attention to ourselves."
Or: "take the monster defensive lineman/pass rusher at #2", don't trade down for an undersized WR and future picks, where we may still be wanting to get that edge rusher".
Sometimes they outthink themselves.
Fair to say?
It wasn't that he was a pipsqueak qb- also with a drinking problem (as we later found out) it was the attention factor. Protestations to the contrary- (and we'll never know for sure) that's what Jimmy wanted & got when he made the pick. I hope he's learned his lesson.
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Or, we could have had Carr and Bosa perhaps.
And, here is a thing about analytics......is it just possible that our FO "OVERANALYZES" things?
I mean, the straight gut instinct in me would have said: "get the bigger, bigger armed QB in Carr, not the media darling pipsqueak to bring attention to ourselves."
Or: "take the monster defensive lineman/pass rusher at #2", don't trade down for an undersized WR and future picks, where we may still be wanting to get that edge rusher".
Sometimes they outthink themselves.
Fair to say?
It wasn't that he was a pipsqueak qb- also with a drinking problem (as we later found out) it was the attention factor. Protestations to the contrary- (and we'll never know for sure) that's what Jimmy wanted & got when he made the pick. I hope he's learned his lesson.
It wasn't that he was a pipsqueak qb- also with a drinking problem (as we later found out) it was the attention factor. Protestations to the contrary- (and we'll never know for sure) that's what Jimmy wanted & got when he made the pick. I hope he's learned his lesson.
Unfortunately the lesson he may have learned is not to take a Gamble on a quarterback.
WSS
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It wasn't that he was a pipsqueak qb- also with a drinking problem (as we later found out) it was the attention factor. Protestations to the contrary- (and we'll never know for sure) that's what Jimmy wanted & got when he made the pick. I hope he's learned his lesson.
Unfortunately the lesson he may have learned is not to take a Gamble on a quarterback.
WSS
Unfortunately the lesson he may have learned is not to take a Gamble on a quarterback.
WSS
Good. Because the ones this year you will likely roll boxcars on anyway.
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I will say one thing. If we do in fact take a QB #1 overall, I will laugh myself silly when we play the teams that did take Allen or Garrett when they strip sack our hapless rookie. Better than crying as I say, "Stupid fucking Browns!"
I will say one thing. If we do in fact take a QB #1 overall, I will laugh myself silly when we play the teams that did take Allen or Garrett when they strip sack our hapless rookie. Better than crying as I say, "Stupid fucking Browns!"
Two words: Joe Thomas.
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Gave up next years one to get both D disruptors
Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)Round 1 Pick 3 (CHI): Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)Round 2 Pick 1: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A)Round 2 Pick 20: O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A+)Round 3 Pick 1: Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M (A)Round 4 Pick 1: Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M (A-)Round 5 Pick 32: Davis Webb, QB, California (A)Round 6 Pick 1: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A) -
Unfortunately the lesson he may have learned is not to take a Gamble on a quarterback.
WSS
Good. Because the ones this year you will likely roll boxcars on anyway.
Good. Because the ones this year you will likely roll boxcars on anyway.
Or, you could get a Hall of Famer.
And you can also draft Aaron Curry, Aundray Bruce or Courtney Brown. aka the Quiet Drizzle.
So, we never know.
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Gave up next years one to get both D disruptors
Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)Round 1 Pick 3 (CHI): Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)Round 2 Pick 1: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A)Round 2 Pick 20: O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A+)Round 3 Pick 1: Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M (A)Round 4 Pick 1: Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M (A-)Round 5 Pick 32: Davis Webb, QB, California (A)Round 6 Pick 1: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A)Gave up next years one to get both D disruptors
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 3 (CHI): Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M (A-)
Round 5 Pick 32: Davis Webb, QB, California (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A)
Like that.
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One of my best football buddies lives in LA. He's a diehard Raiders fan just like many Browns fans. He's been waiting for years to be a good team. We've had many a late night battles on Madden with the two shittiest teams on the game... yet, it's all about how you use the talent in the end I might add. I was happy for him that they finally got a good QB in Carr and we laughed about him getting Mack and Carr and us getting Gilbert and Manziel.... ugh, but I digress, it sucks that now after all the turmoil the Raiders look to be headed to Las Vegas just when they've turned the corner...
God forbid that happen to us.One of my best football buddies lives in LA. He's a diehard Raiders fan just like many Browns fans. He's been waiting for years to be a good team. We've had many a late night battles on Madden with the two shittiest teams on the game... yet, it's all about how you use the talent in the end I might add. I was happy for him that they finally got a good QB in Carr and we laughed about him getting Mack and Carr and us getting Gilbert and Manziel.... ugh, but I digress, it sucks that now after all the turmoil the Raiders look to be headed to Las Vegas just when they've turned the corner...
God forbid that happen to us.Hey, Po! You were the Director of Camp Carr. Do you remember it being crowded with "many" fellow campers, or is someone here just blowing hot air again?
I will say one thing. If we do in fact take a QB #1 overall, I will laugh myself silly when we play the teams that did take Allen or Garrett when they strip sack our hapless rookie. Better than crying as I say, "Stupid fucking Browns!"
Z is going to break out the whoopass again... get ready...
Unfortunately the lesson he may have learned is not to take a Gamble on a quarterback.
You can't "gamble" with a first rounder... ever.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
One of my best football buddies lives in LA. He's a diehard Raiders fan just like many Browns fans. He's been waiting for years to be a good team. We've had many a late night battles on Madden with the two shittiest teams on the game... yet, it's all about how you use the talent in the end I might add. I was happy for him that they finally got a good QB in Carr and we laughed about him getting Mack and Carr and us getting Gilbert and Manziel.... ugh, but I digress, it sucks that now after all the turmoil the Raiders look to be headed to Las Vegas just when they've turned the corner...
God forbid that happen to us.Hey, Po! You were the Director of Camp Carr. Do you remember it being crowded with "many" fellow campers, or is someone here just blowing hot air again?
I will say one thing. If we do in fact take a QB #1 overall, I will laugh myself silly when we play the teams that did take Allen or Garrett when they strip sack our hapless rookie. Better than crying as I say, "Stupid fucking Browns!"
Z is going to break out the whoopass again... get ready...
Unfortunately the lesson he may have learned is not to take a Gamble on a quarterback.
You can't "gamble" with a first rounder... ever.
You can't "gamble" with a first rounder... ever.We can't blame the sins of past FOs on this one, but we've done plenty of that. Manziel was said to have the highest ceiling, and the lowest floor. Found out FLOOR. Taking a qb that was near social security age and a baseball retread (Wee-Done) wasn't a gamble? They were awed when he busted those clay pigeons on Sports Science.
Makes Mitch look like a relatively safe pick.
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You can't "gamble" with a first rounder... ever.
We can't blame the sins of past FOs on this one, but we've done plenty of that. Manziel was said to have the highest ceiling, and the lowest floor. Found out FLOOR. Taking a qb that was near social security age and a baseball retread (Wee-Done) wasn't a gamble? They were awed when he busted those clay pigeons on Sports Science.
Makes Mitch look like a relatively safe pick.
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One of my best football buddies lives in LA. He's a diehard Raiders fan just like many Browns fans. He's been waiting for years to be a good team. We've had many a late night battles on Madden with the two shittiest teams on the game... yet, it's all about how you use the talent in the end I might add. I was happy for him that they finally got a good QB in Carr and we laughed about him getting Mack and Carr and us getting Gilbert and Manziel.... ugh, but I digress, it sucks that now after all the turmoil the Raiders look to be headed to Las Vegas just when they've turned the corner...
God forbid that happen to us.Hey, Po! You were the Director of Camp Carr. Do you remember it being crowded with "many" fellow campers, or is someone here just blowing hot air again?
I will say one thing. If we do in fact take a QB #1 overall, I will laugh myself silly when we play the teams that did take Allen or Garrett when they strip sack our hapless rookie. Better than crying as I say, "Stupid fucking Browns!"
Z is going to break out the whoopass again... get ready...
Unfortunately the lesson he may have learned is not to take a Gamble on a quarterback.
You can't "gamble" with a first rounder... ever.
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You can't "gamble" with a first rounder... ever.
We can't blame the sins of past FOs on this one, but we've done plenty of that. Manziel was said to have the highest ceiling, and the lowest floor. Found out FLOOR. Taking a qb that was near social security age and a baseball retread (Wee-Done) wasn't a gamble? They were awed when he busted those clay pigeons on Sports Science.
Makes Mitch look like a relatively safe pick.
We can't blame the sins of past FOs on this one, but we've done plenty of that. Manziel was said to have the highest ceiling, and the lowest floor. Found out FLOOR. Taking a qb that was near social security age and a baseball retread (Wee-Done) wasn't a gamble? They were awed when he busted those clay pigeons on Sports Science.
Makes Mitch look like a relatively safe pick.
I maintain he could have been great. Unfortunately mental problems kept him from it.
WSS
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We can't blame the sins of past FOs on this one, but we've done plenty of that. Manziel was said to have the highest ceiling, and the lowest floor. Found out FLOOR. Taking a qb that was near social security age and a baseball retread (Wee-Done) wasn't a gamble? They were awed when he busted those clay pigeons on Sports Science.
Makes Mitch look like a relatively safe pick.
I maintain he could have been great. Unfortunately mental problems kept him from it.
WSS
I maintain he could have been great. Unfortunately mental problems kept him from it.
WSS
I agree Steve. We just didn't know the cave-in had already started under the pressure of having won the Heisman so young. Wasn't mature enough to handle what came from that point on.
Garrett on the other hand learned early to have a real calm life without drugs/alcohol after his older brother lost an NBA career over those issues.
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I maintain he could have been great. Unfortunately mental problems kept him from it.
WSS
I agree Steve. We just didn't know the cave-in had already started under the pressure of having won the Heisman so young. Wasn't mature enough to handle what came from that point on.
Garrett on the other hand learned early to have a real calm life without drugs/alcohol after his older brother lost an NBA career over those issues.
I agree Steve. We just didn't know the cave-in had already started under the pressure of having won the Heisman so young. Wasn't mature enough to handle what came from that point on.
Garrett on the other hand learned early to have a real calm life without drugs/alcohol after his older brother lost an NBA career over those issues.
I hope so. It seems that Garrett is the consensus best player in the draft so if we get him I hope he's a solid citizen too.
WSS
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I agree Steve. We just didn't know the cave-in had already started under the pressure of having won the Heisman so young. Wasn't mature enough to handle what came from that point on.
Garrett on the other hand learned early to have a real calm life without drugs/alcohol after his older brother lost an NBA career over those issues.
I hope so. It seems that Garrett is the consensus best player in the draft so if we get him I hope he's a solid citizen too.
WSS
I hope so. It seems that Garrett is the consensus best player in the draft so if we get him I hope he's a solid citizen too.
WSS
His biggest vice is that he wants to be a paleontologist and own his own museum featuring dinosaurs some day. He does not participate in social media. Considers it a waste of your life. You know, kind of what we all do here.
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I agree Steve. We just didn't know the cave-in had already started under the pressure of having won the Heisman so young. Wasn't mature enough to handle what came from that point on.
Garrett on the other hand learned early to have a real calm life without drugs/alcohol after his older brother lost an NBA career over those issues.
I hope so. It seems that Garrett is the consensus best player in the draft so if we get him I hope he's a solid citizen too.
WSS
I hope so. It seems that Garrett is the consensus best player in the draft so if we get him I hope he's a solid citizen too.
WSS
He just hired Johnny Manziel as his agent
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Watson 49 on this big board
http://section215.com/2017/01/13/philadelphia-eagles-draft-benjamin-solak-top-100-big-board/2/
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I hope so. It seems that Garrett is the consensus best player in the draft so if we get him I hope he's a solid citizen too.
WSS
His biggest vice is that he wants to be a paleontologist and own his own museum featuring dinosaurs some day. He does not participate in social media. Considers it a waste of your life. You know, kind of what we all do here.
His biggest vice is that he wants to be a paleontologist and own his own museum featuring dinosaurs some day. He does not participate in social media. Considers it a waste of your life. You know, kind of what we all do here.
Yeah, well, odds are that none of us are going to get picked in the first round anyway so...
WSS
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I hope so. It seems that Garrett is the consensus best player in the draft so if we get him I hope he's a solid citizen too.
WSS
He just hired Johnny Manziel as his agent
He just hired Johnny Manziel as his agent
Put a laugh or put it in pink. He's too busy next month signing autographs for $99 and selfies with him for $50 in Katy and the Woodlands.
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/01/johnny_manziel_will_sign_autog.html
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