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  • @hoorta said:

    The Steelers D isn't as good as the Texans,and Brady rang up 34 on them.

    Brady only rang them up for 27 unless he's getting credit for Dion Lewis' kickoff return for a TD too. If so, he's clearly a much better QB than I'm giving him credit for.

    @flugel said:

    Brady only rang them up for 27 unless he's getting credit for Dion Lewis' kickoff return for a TD too. If so, he's clearly a much better QB than I'm giving him credit for.

    Picky, Picky. 🙂

  • When a 6th round pick wins as often he has you tend to take notice. That aligned with his team being caught cheating vs opposition defenses on numerous occasions and then add what happened with the balls last year.

    I don't respect anything he's done because I don't believe it was ever at all legitimate. He has an average arm has lost to Peyton in post season three times and one of his wins was in a snow storm. He's a by product of his head coach doing whatever it takes to win matches for me

    @londonbrown said:

    When a 6th round pick wins as often he has you tend to take notice. That aligned with his team being caught cheating vs opposition defenses on numerous occasions and then add what happened with the balls last year.

    I don't respect anything he's done because I don't believe it was ever at all legitimate. He has an average arm has lost to Peyton in post season three times and one of his wins was in a snow storm. He's a by product of his head coach doing whatever it takes to win matches for me

    I don't agree with this at all. I think the success of that team has been more Brady than BB. BB would have had good defenses...ala 1994 Browns, but without Brady, they would have have been a championship caliber team.

  • I hear that BO is the winningest QB ever that is 6'7" or taller! What do you say about that?

    There are a couple of others out there that could match him: Paxton Lynch and Mike Glennon, both 6'7"

    I personally think that 6'3" 6'4" is about the right height.

  • yep that ghoolie swan song pick of paxton lynch is looking real good about now.

    fuckin reatard.

  • yep that ghoolie swan song pick of paxton lynch is looking real good about now.

    fuckin reatard.

    @miktoxic said:

    yep that ghoolie swan song pick of paxton lynch is looking real good about now.

    fuckin reatard.

    Lynch could still do OK....but not because Ghoolie says so. Just because.

  • @miktoxic said:

    yep that ghoolie swan song pick of paxton lynch is looking real good about now.

    fuckin reatard.

    Lynch could still do OK....but not because Ghoolie says so. Just because.

    @the-gipper said:

    Lynch could still do OK....but not because Ghoolie says so. Just because.

    could... when's that window of opportunity close? think denver is looking to trade for tony homo. that's how much faith they have in lynch.

  • I hate both teams but Pittsburg makes me puke! Remember when Antonio Brown kicked our punter in the face when he was returning a kick? I hated him ever since.

    Go Pats!

  • @the-gipper said:

    Lynch could still do OK....but not because Ghoolie says so. Just because.

    could... when's that window of opportunity close? think denver is looking to trade for tony homo. that's how much faith they have in lynch.

    @miktoxic said:

    could... when's that window of opportunity close? think denver is looking to trade for tony homo. that's how much faith they have in lynch.

    He just finished his rookie year. In many instances it has taken QBs 3-5 years to develop. Some are a lot quicker, but some are not.

    Rodgers didn't start for like 3 years. Alex Smith took several years to hit his stride. Any number of other took longer than their rookie season,

  • @miktoxic said:

    could... when's that window of opportunity close? think denver is looking to trade for tony homo. that's how much faith they have in lynch.

    He just finished his rookie year. In many instances it has taken QBs 3-5 years to develop. Some are a lot quicker, but some are not.

    Rodgers didn't start for like 3 years. Alex Smith took several years to hit his stride. Any number of other took longer than their rookie season,

    @the-gipper said:

    He just finished his rookie year. In many instances it has taken QBs 3-5 years to develop. Some are a lot quicker, but some are not.

    Rodgers didn't start for like 3 years. Alex Smith took several years to hit his stride. Any number of other took longer than their rookie season,

    make excuses all you want. either you have it or you don't. it's obvious the moment you step on the field.

    ask conner cook. manziel. mccoy. weeden.

  • Let Brock be another example of something I tell everyone but no one believes: Quarterbacks can be too tall to play the position.

    Seriously, as stupid as it sounds it's been historically true for a long, long time. The best educated guess is being that 2-3 inches taller than 6'5' makes it easier for defenses to read the eyes of the guy, but the theory holds an incredible amount of merit.

  • @the-gipper said:

    He just finished his rookie year. In many instances it has taken QBs 3-5 years to develop. Some are a lot quicker, but some are not.

    Rodgers didn't start for like 3 years. Alex Smith took several years to hit his stride. Any number of other took longer than their rookie season,

    make excuses all you want. either you have it or you don't. it's obvious the moment you step on the field.

    ask conner cook. manziel. mccoy. weeden.

    @miktoxic said:

    make excuses all you want. either you have it or you don't. it's obvious the moment you step on the field.

    ask conner cook. manziel. mccoy. weeden.

    Well, then, why don't you just go and inform him and the Broncos and the 32 teams in the NFL that he should quit the game and go sell insurance.

  • Let Brock be another example of something I tell everyone but no one believes: Quarterbacks can be too tall to play the position.

    Seriously, as stupid as it sounds it's been historically true for a long, long time. The best educated guess is being that 2-3 inches taller than 6'5' makes it easier for defenses to read the eyes of the guy, but the theory holds an incredible amount of merit.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Let Brock be another example of something I tell everyone but no one believes: Quarterbacks can be too tall to play the position.

    Seriously, as stupid as it sounds it's been historically true for a long, long time. The best educated guess is being that 2-3 inches taller than 6'5' makes it easier for defenses to read the eyes of the guy, but the theory holds an incredible amount of merit.

    Agility tends to go south and height goes north. But height... seeing over the OL... is supposed to offset that. So when a QB plays shorter than his height, like Brock does, it kills what could be an advantage. Then you are left with a less agile QB.

    When on top of that your tall QB has an extra long wind-up/slow release...

    ...and throws 3/4 side-arm...

    ... or lower which is a real problem.

    I swear on the late INT Brock threw vs. NE, the one that sailed high over everyone except a Safety, that I was reminded of the MLB playoffs when an infielder dropped his arm angle and the throw sailed over the First-baseman's head. The analyst went on (and on) about arm physics and why it happens. Anyway... that's Brock in a nutshell.

    Edit: And there is way too much to fix with Brock.

    I remember being really excited about Tim Couch in '99. Then I heard Chris Palmer, our first QB whispering HC, say, "Tim is a great prospect. We just have to tweak his throwing motion a little."

    To which I said, "Oh, shit..."

  • ^^^Good Take there. It's amazing how consistently true that fact is over the game's history.

  • ^^^Good Take there. It's amazing how consistently true that fact is over the game's history.

    @jrb12711 said:

    ^^^Good Take there. It's amazing how consistently true that fact is over the game's history.

    Though, Bernie, a tall QB (6'5") with a weird, sidearm throwing motion seemed to do all right. For a while. What I wonder though is whether or not his throwing motion contributed to his arm injuries that he suffered later.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    ^^^Good Take there. It's amazing how consistently true that fact is over the game's history.

    Though, Bernie, a tall QB (6'5") with a weird, sidearm throwing motion seemed to do all right. For a while. What I wonder though is whether or not his throwing motion contributed to his arm injuries that he suffered later.

    @the-gipper said:

    Though, Bernie, a tall QB (6'5") with a weird, sidearm throwing motion seemed to do all right. For a while. What I wonder though is whether or not his throwing motion contributed to his arm injuries that he suffered later.

    6'5' is that arbitrary but consistent cutoff point though. The only guy 6'6' or taller who has had a good career is Flacco.

  • Side-arm isn't necessarily bad. It is an inconsistent arm-angle that creates issues. Rodgers is one of the few that gets away with it, but even he "sails one" from time to time.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Though, Bernie, a tall QB (6'5") with a weird, sidearm throwing motion seemed to do all right. For a while. What I wonder though is whether or not his throwing motion contributed to his arm injuries that he suffered later.

    6'5' is that arbitrary but consistent cutoff point though. The only guy 6'6' or taller who has had a good career is Flacco.

    @jrb12711 said:

    6'5' is that arbitrary but consistent cutoff point though. The only guy 6'6' or taller who has had a good career is Flacco.

    See my thread about height of NFL position players.

  • Listened to Greg Cosell on Paxton Lynch and he basically said he needs a complete overhaul. Everything he does mechanically is the wrong thing to do, good luck with that Denver...