Kyle Shanahan
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Bump for posterity's sake. Shanahan is a solid OC that many of the pumpers blamed for our poor offense under Pettine & Co. Once again it illustrates the Browns have no talent and that is the problem.
Bump for posterity's sake. Shanahan is a solid OC that many of the pumpers blamed for our poor offense under Pettine & Co. Once again it illustrates the Browns have no talent and that is the problem.
I don't remember anybody too upset with Shanahan, most of us liked him a lot, he got the most out of a little.
He left because of Farmer. Farmer's gone.
We reset the franchise in 2016 not sure what good lamenting about shit that happened before that does.
Zombo
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Another thing young Shannie is? A hot OC that ain't getting much of a sniff for HC slots.
Might it be his bridge-burning departure from the Browns is a bit off-putting?
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Bump for posterity's sake. Shanahan is a solid OC that many of the pumpers blamed for our poor offense under Pettine & Co. Once again it illustrates the Browns have no talent and that is the problem.
I don't remember anybody too upset with Shanahan, most of us liked him a lot, he got the most out of a little.
He left because of Farmer. Farmer's gone.
We reset the franchise in 2016 not sure what good lamenting about shit that happened before that does.
Zombo
Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.Zombo said:
I don't remember anybody too upset with Shanahan, most of us liked him a lot, he got the most out of a little.
He left because of Farmer. Farmer's gone.
We reset the franchise in 2016 not sure what good lamenting about shit that happened before that does.
Zombo
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As Wade Phillips, Norv Turner, Gregg Williams, Dom Capers, and Lindy Infante can attest to - some guys are just better wired to be Coordinators.
I hope we don't have to say this about Hue. Having said that, Cincy's offense looked like it went into park until Ray Horton's defense provided it with jumper cables both times.
I guess Romeo Crennel sporting the #1 rated defense in the AFC can sneak him into this category even if it's only as long as a cup of coffee.
I also got a feeling the OC that finally reached puberty in NE will stay in this category. The cup of coffee in Denver outside of BB's supervision and Tom Brady's perfection was a good reminder of why/how long he should hold onto his great situation in NE as is.
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As Wade Phillips, Norv Turner, Gregg Williams, Dom Capers, and Lindy Infante can attest to - some guys are just better wired to be Coordinators.
I hope we don't have to say this about Hue. Having said that, Cincy's offense looked like it went into park until Ray Horton's defense provided it with jumper cables both times.
I guess Romeo Crennel sporting the #1 rated defense in the AFC can sneak him into this category even if it's only as long as a cup of coffee.
I also got a feeling the OC that finally reached puberty in NE will stay in this category. The cup of coffee in Denver outside of BB's supervision and Tom Brady's perfection was a good reminder of why/how long he should hold onto his great situation in NE as is.
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IDK if shanny will ever be half the coach his dad was
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IDK if shanny will ever be half the coach his dad was
IDK if shanny will ever be half the coach his dad was
We shall see. Throw him the next John Elway and Terrell Davis he'll make up a lot of ground quickly. That said, Matt Ryan is having an MVP caliber season while Shanny has an impressive balanced attack heading to the NFC Championship Game. Stay tuned?
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Whole point of this thread from the beginning was the coronation of Kyle Shanahan but merely pointing out that talent is the driving force in the NFL. As Browns fans, many cling to the fantasy that there is talent on this team. And why I wouldn't go as so far as to say the Browns are completely talentless, they are severely lacking compared to successful teams. Time to stop blaming coaches for this team's lack of success and place the blame squarely where it belongs, the front office and the players.
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Another thing young Shannie is? A hot OC that ain't getting much of a sniff for HC slots.
Might it be his bridge-burning departure from the Browns is a bit off-putting?
Some guys are great coordinators but not head coach material, I think Josh McDaniels. Just trying to pierce the bubble that Browns fans have created that blames everything on the coaches and puts little blame on the players and the talent evaluators that selected them.
Some guys are great coordinators but not head coach material, I think Josh McDaniels. Just trying to pierce the bubble that Browns fans have created that blames everything on the coaches and puts little blame on the players and the talent evaluators that selected them.
I don't know....I think we have put an awful lot of blame on both the players and the people that selected them.
The thing is, we, like ancient Rome had a Triumvirate:
Bad Talent Evaluators
Bad Talent
Bad coaches coaching bad talent.
You don't do as bad as the Browns have done without having all of that.

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I hear that it is basically a done deal that Kyle Shanahan will become the next HC of the 49ers. Both McDaniels and Tom Cable bowed out of consideration.
I still think that Belichick is telling McDaniels to stay put for just another couple of years, that he will be retiring soon.
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I hear that it is basically a done deal that Kyle Shanahan will become the next HC of the 49ers. Both McDaniels and Tom Cable bowed out of consideration.
I still think that Belichick is telling McDaniels to stay put for just another couple of years, that he will be retiring soon.
I still think that Belichick is telling McDaniels to stay put for just another couple of years, that he will be retiring soon.
As soon as Tommy's skills diminish, then Bill will walk away too.
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Well, apparently any stigma was not too great, but then SF did hire Chip. Interesting note is the batting order SF set in hiring a HC first to be on board for the GM hiring process.
It will be interesting to see the impact on ATL Sunday, but more so in 2017.
Aside: I see Chip is interviewing for the JAX OC job.
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Carson Wentz was the worst QB in the league after week 7. He's not the future of the Eagles - he's barely their present.
The FO was right regarding him.
Deal with it.
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I still think that Belichick is telling McDaniels to stay put for just another couple of years, that he will be retiring soon.
As soon as Tommy's skills diminish, then Bill will walk away too.
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Carson Wentz was the worst QB in the league after week 7. He's not the future of the Eagles - he's barely their present.
The FO was right regarding him.
Deal with it.
Carson Wentz was the worst QB in the league after week 7. He's not the future of the Eagles - he's barely their present.
The FO was right regarding him.
Deal with it.
And Corey Coleman is not a first round worthy WR.
Or is it too early to tell with him?
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Carson Wentz was the worst QB in the league after week 7. He's not the future of the Eagles - he's barely their present.
The FO was right regarding him.
Deal with it.
And Corey Coleman is not a first round worthy WR.
Or is it too early to tell with him?
And Corey Coleman is not a first round worthy WR.
Or is it too early to tell with him?
Too early on both Wentz and Coleman.
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