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  • I can accept this , but would he want to come here. Its not like this team has a winning record.

  • I can accept this , but would he want to come here. Its not like this team has a winning record.

    @brownsfaninpa said:

    I can accept this , but would he want to come here. Its not like this team has a winning record.

    See: Collins, Jamie

  • A while back I said there'd be no way the Redskins let Cousins walk, in any way. However, it appears that I'm wrong (shocker). If this is true, the Redskins would HAVE to have some sort of backup plan, and I can't think of what it is. Draft a rookie and hope he turns out well immediately? How often has THAT worked out for teams? Sign one of the veteran QB's, such as Tyrod or Cutler? (if they're cut) Kaepernick? Can anybody truly say those guys are better than Kirk? I just don't see it...I really don't. Kirk might not be the second coming of Tom Brady, but in a world where competent QB play is rare, why on earth would they want to deal Cousins? I just don't see it!

    But back to the poster's question. Would I be on the wagon for a trade? Hell freaking yes I would. The article indicated Cousins played in a similar offense under Gruden, and that could ease the transition period. If Pryor is back, our offensive cupboard isn't exactly bare, if people like Coleman, Devalve, Pryor, and others continue developing. I guess the million dollar question is, what would it take for the deal to get done? Anything involving the #1 pick is out the window, and I won't even LISTEN to anything. However, the #12 pick? Would I use the #12 pick to essentially draft Kirk Cousins? Yep. I'd do it in a skinny second. I'm not sure what other picks it'd take, but we'd have basically a new team INSTANTLY. Myles Garrett, Kirk Cousins, and then two second round picks? Uhhh....yes please. And our first second round pick is obviously as high as it gets, and there's ALWAYS a player graded as first round talent that slips on day 1. I think Ogbah was in that category.

    Listen, I'm not going to get overly excited over a rumor because this is the NFL "Silly Season". However, it certainly is fun to talk about.

  • When I ask why Bill Belichick would jettison The Heir Apparent to Tom Brady I'd be even more surprised if the Redskins would shitcan their starting franchise quarterback.

    Garoppolo is an unknown quantity as far as a franchise star but Kirk Cousins has shown that he probably is not.

    WSS

  • lol... "We're getting the band back together again." - "Joliet" Jake Blues

    @connerlangford said:

    Very good and very tough question... at least for me.

    WSH tagged him saying in effect, "Do it again." He essentially did. And now? They're floating him as trade bait?

    That's a red flag... which is appropriate since WSH's big issue on Offense this year was red-zone scoring.

    Kurt threw for a ton between the 20's... but the last 20 tripped him up.

    I'll pass...

    @tour2ma said:

    lol... "We're getting the band back together again." - "Joliet" Jake Blues

    Very good and very tough question... at least for me.

    WSH tagged him saying in effect, "Do it again." He essentially did. And now? They're floating him as trade bait?

    That's a red flag... which is appropriate since WSH's big issue on Offense this year was red-zone scoring.

    Kurt threw for a ton between the 20's... but the last 20 tripped him up.

    I'll pass...

    I don't know that Washington is floating him as trade bait. It was probably just some guy with a computer blog or something.

    That would be like someone reading one of Ghoolie's rants about trading Joe Thomas....then reporting that the Browns are floating Joe Thomas as trade bait.

  • @browns1216 said:

    i'd be surprised if the Redskins give him up. Do they have that much faith in Colt McCoy or do they have someone else in mind?

    Perhaps they'll trade us three #1's to go up to #1 overall and draft another QB? 🙂

    @orion said:

    Perhaps they'll trade us three #1's to go up to #1 overall and draft another QB? 🙂

    Where do they draft? Our anal-ytics guys might seriously consider it.

  • A while back I said there'd be no way the Redskins let Cousins walk, in any way. However, it appears that I'm wrong (shocker). If this is true, the Redskins would HAVE to have some sort of backup plan, and I can't think of what it is. Draft a rookie and hope he turns out well immediately? How often has THAT worked out for teams? Sign one of the veteran QB's, such as Tyrod or Cutler? (if they're cut) Kaepernick? Can anybody truly say those guys are better than Kirk? I just don't see it...I really don't. Kirk might not be the second coming of Tom Brady, but in a world where competent QB play is rare, why on earth would they want to deal Cousins? I just don't see it!

    But back to the poster's question. Would I be on the wagon for a trade? Hell freaking yes I would. The article indicated Cousins played in a similar offense under Gruden, and that could ease the transition period. If Pryor is back, our offensive cupboard isn't exactly bare, if people like Coleman, Devalve, Pryor, and others continue developing. I guess the million dollar question is, what would it take for the deal to get done? Anything involving the #1 pick is out the window, and I won't even LISTEN to anything. However, the #12 pick? Would I use the #12 pick to essentially draft Kirk Cousins? Yep. I'd do it in a skinny second. I'm not sure what other picks it'd take, but we'd have basically a new team INSTANTLY. Myles Garrett, Kirk Cousins, and then two second round picks? Uhhh....yes please. And our first second round pick is obviously as high as it gets, and there's ALWAYS a player graded as first round talent that slips on day 1. I think Ogbah was in that category.

    Listen, I'm not going to get overly excited over a rumor because this is the NFL "Silly Season". However, it certainly is fun to talk about.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    A while back I said there'd be no way the Redskins let Cousins walk, in any way. However, it appears that I'm wrong (shocker). If this is true, the Redskins would HAVE to have some sort of backup plan, and I can't think of what it is. Draft a rookie and hope he turns out well immediately? How often has THAT worked out for teams? Sign one of the veteran QB's, such as Tyrod or Cutler? (if they're cut) Kaepernick? Can anybody truly say those guys are better than Kirk? I just don't see it...I really don't. Kirk might not be the second coming of Tom Brady, but in a world where competent QB play is rare, why on earth would they want to deal Cousins? I just don't see it!

    But back to the poster's question. Would I be on the wagon for a trade? Hell freaking yes I would. The article indicated Cousins played in a similar offense under Gruden, and that could ease the transition period. If Pryor is back, our offensive cupboard isn't exactly bare, if people like Coleman, Devalve, Pryor, and others continue developing. I guess the million dollar question is, what would it take for the deal to get done? Anything involving the #1 pick is out the window, and I won't even LISTEN to anything. However, the #12 pick? Would I use the #12 pick to essentially draft Kirk Cousins? Yep. I'd do it in a skinny second. I'm not sure what other picks it'd take, but we'd have basically a new team INSTANTLY. Myles Garrett, Kirk Cousins, and then two second round picks? Uhhh....yes please. And our first second round pick is obviously as high as it gets, and there's ALWAYS a player graded as first round talent that slips on day 1. I think Ogbah was in that category.

    Listen, I'm not going to get overly excited over a rumor because this is the NFL "Silly Season". However, it certainly is fun to talk about.

    Who would you....and all of you....rather trade that #12 for: Kirk Cousins.....or Jimmy Garrapolo? How about that conundrum!

  • Oh cool, it's every offseason for the last three years again.

    @orion said:

    Perhaps they'll trade us three #1's to go up to #1 overall and draft another QB? 🙂

    Their #1 this year, next year, and the year after, plus a franchised Kirk Cousins, sure, I'd take that. And Putney. I want Putney.

    @gftchris said:

    Their #1 this year, next year, and the year after, plus a franchised Kirk Cousins, sure, I'd take that. And Putney. I want Putney.

    ... because I want him...

    @jiggins7919 said:

    A while back I said there'd be no way the Redskins let Cousins walk, in any way. However, it appears that I'm wrong (shocker). If this is true, the Redskins would HAVE to have some sort of backup plan, and I can't think of what it is. Draft a rookie and hope he turns out well immediately? How often has THAT worked out for teams? Sign one of the veteran QB's, such as Tyrod or Cutler? (if they're cut) Kaepernick? Can anybody truly say those guys are better than Kirk? I just don't see it...I really don't. Kirk might not be the second coming of Tom Brady, but in a world where competent QB play is rare, why on earth would they want to deal Cousins? I just don't see it!

    Do you see WSH being only the retention of Kirk away from winning a Super Bowl? Even simply winning the NFC? I don't...

    I think they are heading towards a rebuild. If you look at where they are vs. DAL and NYG and even PHI, assuming Wentz pans out, it is hard to see them making their way out of the Division and into the playoffs.

    And the size of the contract their unestablished QB is expected to command hamstrings any rebuild effort.

    @westside-steve said:

    When I ask why Bill Belichick would jettison The Heir Apparent to Tom Brady I'd be even more surprised if the Redskins would shitcan their starting franchise quarterback.

    There's only one reason... he's not good enough to take them where they want to get. I agree with them.

    Is Kurt a nice player? Yes...

    Better than anyone we have on our roster? Yes...

    Is that enough reason to pursue him in a trade? No...

  • I don't hate the idea, but I don't love it either.

    You'll be giving up a 1st rounder and then giving him top 15 QB money. Is Kirk a top 15 QB? I'm not so sure.

    Would he be a nice upgrade? Yes. As Tour alluded to, Red Zone woes. However that may stem from the Skins lack of commitment to the run game at times. I do like Cousin's work in the play action game though.

  • When I ask why Bill Belichick would jettison The Heir Apparent to Tom Brady I'd be even more surprised if the Redskins would shitcan their starting franchise quarterback.

    Garoppolo is an unknown quantity as far as a franchise star but Kirk Cousins has shown that he probably is not.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    When I ask why Bill Belichick would jettison The Heir Apparent to Tom Brady I'd be even more surprised if the Redskins would shitcan their starting franchise quarterback.

    There's only one reason... he's not good enough to take them where they want to get. I agree with them.

    Is Kurt a nice player? Yes...

    Better than anyone we have on our roster? Yes...

    Is that enough reason to pursue him in a trade? No...

    The question combines reference to Cousins and to Garropolo.

    I asked everyone before....who would you rather have, Cousins or Garrapolo?

    (In my personal view...I would not give anything higher than our #52 for either)

  • Should have traded for him 3 or 4 years ago but nobody FUCKING listens...

  • Should have traded for him 3 or 4 years ago but nobody FUCKING listens...

    @domcucch1994 said:

    Should have traded for him 3 or 4 years ago but nobody FUCKING listens...

    Cousins or Garropolo? Cousins was only drafted 5 years ago...2012...and sat on the bench a couple of years.

    Garropolo was only drafted 3 years ago. 2014.

    If you say maybe we should have drafted either of them...instead of Weeden and Manziel...now that I can buy.

  • no cousins

  • no cousins

    @stillmotion said:

    no cousins

    Are you sure? Have you checked the lines of consanguinity in your family? 😕

  • This thread is great support for the fact that Cleveland will never get her franchise QB. Kirk Cousins isn't good enough now? Are you guys serious? Especially you guys that want Trubisky.

    That is absolute insanity. You got someone like Kirk Cousins on the hook, you cling to him.

  • This thread is great support for the fact that Cleveland will never get her franchise QB. Kirk Cousins isn't good enough now? Are you guys serious? Especially you guys that want Trubisky.

    That is absolute insanity. You got someone like Kirk Cousins on the hook, you cling to him.

    @wargograw said:

    This thread is great support for the fact that Cleveland will never get her franchise QB. Kirk Cousins isn't good enough now? Are you guys serious? Especially you guys that want Trubisky.

    That is absolute insanity. You got someone like Kirk Cousins on the hook, you cling to him.

  • Has he stated whether he wants out or not? If he's done with the redskins and refuses to work our a deal they lijely wont franchise him right?

  • @stillmotion said:

    no cousins

    Are you sure? Have you checked the lines of consanguinity in your family? 😕

    @the-gipper said:

    Are you sure? Have you checked the lines of consanguinity in your family? 😕

    Come on Gip, it could easily happen if both your father and mother were only children. 🙂

  • This thread is great support for the fact that Cleveland will never get her franchise QB. Kirk Cousins isn't good enough now? Are you guys serious? Especially you guys that want Trubisky.

    That is absolute insanity. You got someone like Kirk Cousins on the hook, you cling to him.

    @wargograw said:

    This thread is great support for the fact that Cleveland will never get her franchise QB. Kirk Cousins isn't good enough now? Are you guys serious? Especially you guys that want Trubisky.

    That is absolute insanity. You got someone like Kirk Cousins on the hook, you cling to him.

    Then why would Washington be willing to deal him? Colt McCoy is all of a sudden a better option?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Are you sure? Have you checked the lines of consanguinity in your family? 😕

    Come on Gip, it could easily happen if both your father and mother were only children. 🙂

    @hoorta said:

    Come on Gip, it could easily happen if both your father and mother were only children. 🙂

    Even then, there would be someone, somewhere.

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