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Trump freezes Obama's last minute $221M payment to Palestine

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  • bbedward bbedwardB Conversation Starter Reacting Well Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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    http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-say-trump-freezes-obamas-last-minute-221-million-payout/
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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      GOOD. The remnants of obaMao's bigotry will take some time to go away.

      Trump isn't going to golf most of his presidency, he's going to drain the swamp.

      Pat Kennedy, Obamao and higgardly's hack in the state dept.... is getting booted out the door.

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        and, enough already with our throwing so much money all around the world.

        The UN demands big bucks, Trump is the president to tell them to shove it.

        Decreasing the UN participation... big savings right there. ABOUT TIME. We have a REAL AMERICAN president now.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/united-nations-trump-administration.html?_r=0

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          BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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          Can anyone provide details as to why that money was going to the Palestinians?

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            from the article:

            to be used for humanitarian aid in the West Bank and Gaza to support political and security reforms, as well as help prepare for good governance and the rule of law in a future Palestinian state, according to the notification sent to Congress
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              from the article:

              to be used for humanitarian aid in the West Bank and Gaza to support political and security reforms, as well as help prepare for good governance and the rule of law in a future Palestinian state, according to the notification sent to Congress
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              BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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              @gftchris said:

              from the article:

              And we believe that?

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                You asked what it was meant for. That's what went with the request. I'm sure you can find 'alternative' reasons if you trawl through the blaze and breitbart or wherever. I'm guessing Times of Israel will also be great at giving 'unbiased' news regarding Palestine.

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                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  It ain't going anywhere now. God bless President Trump.

                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    @boo-radley said:

                    Trump repairing the relationship with Israel/

                    Besides Great Britain, Israel is a close and trusted ally.

                    An ally that seems to be very much a one way street, with Israel constantly on the take and anyone questioning it or suggesting there's another way to bring about peace in the west bank besides bombing the shit out of everyone is labelled antisemitic.

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                      You asked what it was meant for. That's what went with the request. I'm sure you can find 'alternative' reasons if you trawl through the blaze and breitbart or wherever. I'm guessing Times of Israel will also be great at giving 'unbiased' news regarding Palestine.

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                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                      @gftchris said:

                      You asked what it was meant for. That's what went with the request. I'm sure you can find 'alternative' reasons if you trawl through the blaze and breitbart or wherever. I'm guessing Times of Israel will also be great at giving 'unbiased' news regarding Palestine.

                      You don't necessarily have to go searching right wing websites to get the opinion that Palestine won't use the money for the best of intentions. The locals have voted in a terror organization to run the government. We would find out pretty quick what is the USD to mortars/rockets conversion rate

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                        and, enough already with our throwing so much money all around the world.

                        The UN demands big bucks, Trump is the president to tell them to shove it.

                        Decreasing the UN participation... big savings right there. ABOUT TIME. We have a REAL AMERICAN president now.

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/united-nations-trump-administration.html?_r=0

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        and, enough already with our throwing so much money all around the world.

                        Does that include sending money to Israel?

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                        • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                          @calfoxwc said:

                          and, enough already with our throwing so much money all around the world.

                          Does that include sending money to Israel?

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                          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          Does that include sending money to Israel?

                          I know you weren't asking me but I would say it should not. Israel is one of our few allies anywhere near that region and surrounded by enemies who seem completely comfortable with supporting terrorism and also have nearly Unlimited streams of income.

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                            @boo-radley said:

                            Trump repairing the relationship with Israel/

                            Besides Great Britain, Israel is a close and trusted ally.

                            An ally that seems to be very much a one way street, with Israel constantly on the take and anyone questioning it or suggesting there's another way to bring about peace in the west bank besides bombing the shit out of everyone is labelled antisemitic.

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                            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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                            @gftchris said:

                            An ally that seems to be very much a one way street, with Israel constantly on the take and anyone questioning it or suggesting there's another way to bring about peace in the west bank besides bombing the shit out of everyone is labelled antisemitic.

                            We realize your attitude already. Allahu Akbar

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                              @boo-radley said:

                              Trump repairing the relationship with Israel/

                              Besides Great Britain, Israel is a close and trusted ally.

                              An ally that seems to be very much a one way street, with Israel constantly on the take and anyone questioning it or suggesting there's another way to bring about peace in the west bank besides bombing the shit out of everyone is labelled antisemitic.

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                              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                              @gftchris said:

                              An ally that seems to be very much a one way street, with Israel constantly on the take and anyone questioning it or suggesting there's another way to bring about peace in the west bank besides bombing the shit out of everyone is labelled antisemitic.

                              What do you expect a tiny nation that's beseiged on all fronts by belligerents that literally want to commit genocide on them to provide, except a strategic foothold into a lawless and barbaric region that's globally significant, yet, unfriendly to everyone, even themselves?

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                Does that include sending money to Israel?

                                I know you weren't asking me but I would say it should not. Israel is one of our few allies anywhere near that region and surrounded by enemies who seem completely comfortable with supporting terrorism and also have nearly Unlimited streams of income.

                                WSS

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                                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                I know you weren't asking me but I would say it should not. Israel is one of our few allies anywhere near that region and surrounded by enemies who seem completely comfortable with supporting terrorism and also have nearly Unlimited streams of income.

                                WSS

                                Israel is not hurting for money on their own. My preference is that we don't keep giving money to other countries when we have our own money/debt problems as is. You can be an ally without pumping money to them.

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                                  @gftchris said:

                                  An ally that seems to be very much a one way street, with Israel constantly on the take and anyone questioning it or suggesting there's another way to bring about peace in the west bank besides bombing the shit out of everyone is labelled antisemitic.

                                  What do you expect a tiny nation that's beseiged on all fronts by belligerents that literally want to commit genocide on them to provide, except a strategic foothold into a lawless and barbaric region that's globally significant, yet, unfriendly to everyone, even themselves?

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                                  OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                                  What do you expect a tiny nation that's beseiged on all fronts by belligerents.

                                  Nothing could be further from the truth. Below is a map of Israel. It's two largest borders are with Egypt and Jordan. Egypt's relations with Israel have never been better. They are both cooperating in the fight against ISIL in the Sinai. Don't take my word for it, take the word if Israeli media:

                                  https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/71750/fighting-terrorism-sparks-unprecedented-level-cooperation-israel-egypt/#1jLcE0stH2ar9Ej3.97

                                  This is very good news because ISIL needs it's butt kicked out of Egypt, and maybe, just maybe, it puts Egypt in a position to broker peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

                                  On to Jordan. Relations here are improving as well, with Jordan signing a 15-year natural gas deal with Israel and requesting and gaining assistance from Israel on multiple fronts.

                                  http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/10/palestine-jordan-israel-rapprochement-strategic-ties.html

                                  Netenyahu wants Americans to believe Israel is besieged on all fronts so that money keeps flowing. He has routinely played our government for fools and is on video record as saying that he can easily manipulate America to his will.

                                  Israel is the only country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons. They have plenty of money and the most sophisticated military in the region.

                                  250px-Is-map.PNG

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                                    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                    Well you learn something new every day I suppose. Still my greater point stands: what do you expect them to provide except a stable foothold into the region?

                                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      I know you weren't asking me but I would say it should not. Israel is one of our few allies anywhere near that region and surrounded by enemies who seem completely comfortable with supporting terrorism and also have nearly Unlimited streams of income.

                                      WSS

                                      Israel is not hurting for money on their own. My preference is that we don't keep giving money to other countries when we have our own money/debt problems as is. You can be an ally without pumping money to them.

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                                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                      @logicisforsquares said:

                                      Israel is not hurting for money on their own. My preference is that we don't keep giving money to other countries when we have our own money/debt problems as is. You can be an ally without pumping money to them.

                                      Maybe. And to be fair I've never heard you weigh in one way or the other but I have heard many who oppose Donald Trump who are outraged at the idea we might ask members of NATO to chip in what they owe for their protection.

                                      Does America First platitude work there too?

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                                        Well you learn something new every day I suppose. Still my greater point stands: what do you expect them to provide except a stable foothold into the region?

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                                        OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                                        Well you learn something new every day I suppose. Still my greater point stands: what do you expect them to provide except a stable foothold into the region?

                                        The stablest of footholds will exist if not just peace, but real alliances between Israel, Jordan, and Egypt can be created. All three are US allies in the region, and all three have a vested interest in defeating ISIL. The only way that happens, though, is with the realization of a two-state solution in Israel/Palestine. Unfortunately you have Netanyahu on one side and Hamas on the other obstructing that. This is a pretty good overview of the problem:

                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/29/world/middleeast/israel-palestinians-two-state-solution.html

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                                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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